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Roads To Moscow
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Posted - Apr 25 2010 : 3:43AM
^

mharris127
Senior Member

1844 Posts
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Posted - Apr 25 2010 : 8:25AM
There will always be a few, but the free availability reduces the stealing -- I hadn't heard of anyone stealing MS Office or Windows in years. As for Open Office, that is the most poorly advertised program (even for free programs) in the history of the internet (too bad, I use it and it is a good program). If you don't know a computer geek, you have probably never heard of it. Linux is not a good example because most people don't know how to use it.
Zaer
Deactivated User

249 Posts
10/07
Posted - Apr 25 2010 : 8:55AM
Linux/Ubuntu have always struggled to get people to use their software, given the issue of ease of use. Because MS OS's are just easier to use for the average person. And also most people don't know about Linux or Ubuntu.
So it's not about filesharing.
As for the other software, it's the same general issue with the public using MS Office because in many cases it comes installed by default on many systems. So people would have to ask specifically for OpenOffice, which many don't, since they don't know about it.
As for the argument about AV software, I believe most people use AVG because it's given freely by the company, but also because it's better in many cases to Kaspersky.
And comparing software, which is used for a long period of time to adult content which usually isn't, isn't the best comparison.
A more apt comparison would be to compare the adult industry to the music industry.
And in the case of the music industry the iTunes business model has helped to increase profits.
So one can effectively compete with free by offering convenience in the accessing of content and timeliness in the release of content (i.e., the content is available for download on the day it's available for purchase by mail).
Edited by - Zaer on 4/25/2010 9:09:35 AM
arkdvd
Member

103 Posts
1/06
Posted - Apr 25 2010 : 2:39PM
"installed by default on many systems" - so is windows xp home, but many people stole windows xp pro to upgrade their OS. and MS office isn't typically installed for FREE, MS works is. MS office, when pre-installed, is usually a 30/90 day trial.
"comparing software...isn't the best comparison" - i disagree. software apps are a real world test for the "business model" theorists because they possess all of the "upside" qualities: downloadable content for user convenience, available FREE, and good quality.
"the itunes business model" - is a red herring. as i've pointed out before, itunes requires a separate proprietary hardware player (ipod, iphone) which created revenue in many cases equal to that of the content. also, people like to point to itunes but always seem to omit that itunes has a form of DRM attached.
 
witling
Member

46 Posts
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Posted - Apr 25 2010 : 3:10PM
I don't think either of these assertions is true. Doesn't iTunes currently use the AAC format which is supported by many platforms. They used have DRM when I had the iTunes software installed on my PC years ago, but even then it was possible to play the music on the PC and burn it to CD (and then convert it to other formats if desired even though the quality of the original downloads might have rendered the last step futile). I don't think I bought more than a handful of tracks from there, and unfortunately they became unplayable (except the ones burned on CD) when I upgraded my PC and did not bother to install the software.
iTunes used to have DRM when I was using it which is one reason why I never warmed to it that much. (Another reason is that they require you to install the iTunes software which is available only for Macs and Windows machines, so Linux users need not apply.) My understanding is that more recently they have dropped the DRM and improved the quality (raised the bitrate) of the AAC files. This is based on what I have read, I don't currently have the software installed.
Also most other downloadable music stores I know of have dropped DRM if they ever have used it. And unlike Apple they usually do not force you to use their own software... Magnatune which has the best download options including lossless files has gone entirely to a subscription system like the pornsites.
qz3fwd
Member

141 Posts
1/06
Posted - Apr 25 2010 : 11:36PM
Wow-pretty harsh words, but I respect your opinion.
I dont know about "latent homosexuals" on the payroll, but I personally like the harder anal scenes / more extreme performances compared to the mid-late 90's.
More releases like Jay Sinn's Gape Lovers 5 and the upcoming Lil Gaping Lesb's 2 please.
Even though I could easily download for free GL5, I own the disc and have LGL2 pre-ordered.
Girl
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Porn is School
18 Posts
4/10
Posted - Apr 26 2010 : 1:45PM
I see DMJ: Resurrection available for free download.
Edited by - Girl on 4/26/2010 1:46:11 PM
hollywood woody
Senior Member

Death is caused by swallowing small amounts of saliva over a long period of time. George Carlin
1567 Posts
2/07
Posted - Apr 26 2010 : 5:44PM
oh good, where is it available?
Girl
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Porn is School
18 Posts
4/10
Posted - Apr 26 2010 : 6:03PM
I'm new here, but isn't that against forum rules to post? You should buy a copy if you're interested.
arkdvd
Member

103 Posts
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Posted - Apr 26 2010 : 6:05PM
check your email.
arkdvd
Member

103 Posts
1/06
Posted - Apr 26 2010 : 6:06PM
insert rim shot here!
AsianAnalPantyhoserGuy
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Ass fucking/ foot fetish/ pantyhose= insanity!
465 Posts
3/10
Posted - Apr 26 2010 : 9:29PM
You're posts are very funny, but you will have a very hard time finding any concrete evidence that I am wrong. You or anybody else who would care to step up.
UnkwnUsr2
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Posted - Apr 27 2010 : 5:59AM
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Edited by - unkwnusr2 on 4/27/2010 6:01:28 AM
mharris127
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Posted - Apr 27 2010 : 7:32AM
Let me introduce you to Woody. He is second in command at Vivid Studios and he wanted that info so he could take his movie off of the tubes. Most of us here support his motive (as I see so will you), as it takes revenue away from future movies. It is perfectly safe to e-mail him with your information so he can take whatever copyright infringing idiot that put it up for free down. Go to the top of the thread list for Porn Pool, select Steph, and request Woody's e-mail with an explanation of why you need it so you can do this (I don't have it and would not put it up for public use anyway).
 
Girl
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Porn is School
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4/10
Posted - Apr 27 2010 : 7:56AM
Pirates don't use Google. They also use cryptology to disguise content. Anyone who thinks they can have their content removed from the internet is seriously misguided. Like MantraMotion, I'm seeing every Vivid release from the past two years pretty much there for the taking. I'm not saying it's right; it just is.
Edited by - Girl on 4/27/2010 7:59:54 AM
mharris127
Senior Member

1844 Posts
8/09
Posted - Apr 27 2010 : 9:33AM
Unfortunately, you are right. Say, is that your picture in your avatar? If so, have you ever thought about entering the industry yourself? I am not an agent or even affiliated with the industry, but you probably could make yourself some serious dough in adult entertainment -- whether it is stripping or adult movies. We have agents who post here (Mark Spiegler being one), maybe one of them will see your pic and give you their contact info. You can ask here about someone's legitimacy and do other research to find the best agent, and I actually suggest that you do so before entering the industry if you choose to.
AsianAnalPantyhoserGuy
Deactivated User

Ass fucking/ foot fetish/ pantyhose= insanity!
465 Posts
3/10
Posted - Apr 27 2010 : 10:34AM
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There's a difference between paranoia and knowing what time it is.
hollywood woody
Senior Member

Death is caused by swallowing small amounts of saliva over a long period of time. George Carlin
1567 Posts
2/07
Posted - Apr 27 2010 : 2:30PM
Thank you to my friends here who emailed me with the info.
we are systematically going through each site and removing it.
I am sure that for every one we remove, 10 more will appear, then we will remove those and on and on.
This costs money to do this.
You can call it anything you want, but when I see 9000 plus people on one site viewed this for free, I know it is stealing, which equates to lost sales.
Which will eventually be the end of good movies being made. This will affect you as a customer.
UnkwnUsr2
Member

443 Posts
2/05
Posted - Apr 27 2010 : 2:36PM
That's Brianna Love.
Girl
Deactivated User

Porn is School
18 Posts
4/10
Posted - Apr 27 2010 : 3:03PM
I'm really curious to how much one pays to "remove" (it should be RE-move, as it literally is just moving it from one place to another over and over) the content, because whatever it is, it is too much. Removing content from one site, ten sites or even 100 doesn't prevent a single person from getting that content for free. So you're not recouping any lost sales. I too see exactly what MantraMotion saw—-virtually every Vivid title from the past 2 years available for the taking. So if you paid one cent to have any of the titles in his list removed, you over-paid.
(Maybe I shouldn't admit that, as I see it led to him being deactivated.)
Again, I do not advocate piracy, and going back through this thread, it doesn't seem like anyone does. It seems the people who contributed to this tread are in one of two groups; a.) informed or b.) denial.
hollywood woody
Senior Member

Death is caused by swallowing small amounts of saliva over a long period of time. George Carlin
1567 Posts
2/07
Posted - Apr 27 2010 : 4:00PM
Thank you for the grammar lesson.
It doesn't matter what it costs, it is the point.
If we do nothing, we are saying it is ok to steal content.
One day someone will be prosecuted and made an example of, that day is not far off.
Girl
Deactivated User

Porn is School
18 Posts
4/10
Posted - Apr 27 2010 : 4:05PM
My mistake then. I falsely assumed you were in business to make as large a profit as possible.
UnkwnUsr2
Member

443 Posts
2/05
Posted - Apr 27 2010 : 5:32PM
Girl
Deactivated User
lol
arkdvd
Member

103 Posts
1/06
Posted - Apr 27 2010 : 5:46PM
when you come back with your new username, you can explain how loss prevention is not part of business and also not a part of maintaining profits.
 
duefuss
Member

Not a shred of evidence exists in favor of the idea that life is serious - Brendan Gill
723 Posts
4/09
Posted - Apr 27 2010 : 5:58PM
Not if it's ALWAYS time to get them before they get you. Time varies, seasons change. For the paranoid it's always the season of fear, always the time for mistrust and deciet.
AsianAnalPantyhoserGuy
Deactivated User

Ass fucking/ foot fetish/ pantyhose= insanity!
465 Posts
3/10
Posted - Apr 27 2010 : 6:37PM
It's not about getting anybody. It's about laying the facts out as they apply to the situation at hand. You might want to remember that pornography is a recorded media. This means I can always go back and dig up what I need to in order to connect the dots. I see patterns because I have always known what to look for. Most people have no clue what to look for because they're too busy hanging out in their comfort zone, getting spoon-fed facts from CNN and ABC. Nobody has the balls to speak up because they're afraid that other people will think their weird. Me, I don't give a fuck if anybody thinks I'm weird. Go ahead and laugh at me because I'm different, but I laugh at mostly everyone because they're all the same.
duefuss
Member

Not a shred of evidence exists in favor of the idea that life is serious - Brendan Gill
723 Posts
4/09
Posted - Apr 27 2010 : 6:45PM
You won't understand this, but ther is NO difference between what I said above and what you just said.
AsianAnalPantyhoserGuy
Deactivated User

Ass fucking/ foot fetish/ pantyhose= insanity!
465 Posts
3/10
Posted - Apr 27 2010 : 8:17PM
^duefuss, it's good to know that you know what I will or will not understand. Do you know who PUBLIC ENEMY is?
Anyway, all I'm trying to say is that if anyone is going to accuse me of being paranoid, then come off the porch and meet me in the center of the street. Bring as many friends as needed. I am alone.
Let us discuss what I have brought to the floor instead of throwing around cute little pussy graphics to imply that I am insane.
BlackSix All-Star Supporter
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pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world
12377 Posts
9/07
Posted - Apr 27 2010 : 11:27PM
For fuck's sake, take a pill and stop derailing the thread.
AsianAnalPantyhoserGuy
Deactivated User

Ass fucking/ foot fetish/ pantyhose= insanity!
465 Posts
3/10
Posted - Apr 27 2010 : 11:29PM
BlackSix All-Star Supporter
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pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world
12377 Posts
9/07
Posted - Apr 27 2010 : 11:29PM
^ +1
AsianAnalPantyhoserGuy
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Ass fucking/ foot fetish/ pantyhose= insanity!
465 Posts
3/10
Posted - Apr 27 2010 : 11:59PM
^Sorry I fukt up and hit the button prematurely
I am not trying to argue about paranoia or derail this thread in any way, I'm only defending my sanity and therefore my points. It's occasionally necessary to deal with such distractions.
I unfortunately must repeat: Circa 1998, the porn industry is raking in the cash, Kobe Tai comes on the scene and delivers anal scenes that are fabulous. Vivid makes commercials talking about how everyone loves her feet, and she brags about how she wants to be ass-fucked. She was swept up by Vivid, only to do a bunch of token garbage with pitifully captured anal. Her performances weakened and she disappeared. Pretty well summed up.
For the next 10 years, everyone in the "industry" gets in on the systematic mockery of foot fetish and pantyhose enthusiasts. It is standard operating procedure to film reverse cowgirl anal scenes while simultaneously eliminating sheer hosiery/foot fetish content by any means necessary. Even Max gets in on the mockery by removing one shoe and sock from his ladies during their performances. The money was flowing in, but the porn was becoming more and more predictable by the day. Pretty well summed up.
European males flooded the American porn industry and the productions were filmed, edited, and produced by latent homosexuals and women on their payroll. I am not anti-gay, it is my honest assessment of how it really works. Ass to mouth opened the door to what it has become today. Looking at the subject matter of what is available at present, the industry needs to be burned to the ground. I hope something good will come from the ashes.
Pantyhose "tease" should die as well.
This is my story of why I feel absolutely betrayed by this industry and why I have no sympathy for it as it dies. If it was different I would feel different.

Roads To Moscow
Dianic

Wicked Pictures,Vouyer Media, Axel Braun Productions, Marc Dorcel, JoyBear Pictures, abbywinters.com
1390 Posts
7/05
Posted - Apr 28 2010 : 12:26AM
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Edited by - Roads To Moscow on 4/28/2010 12:47:16 AM

AsianAnalPantyhoserGuy
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Ass fucking/ foot fetish/ pantyhose= insanity!
465 Posts
3/10
Posted - Apr 28 2010 : 8:37AM
Roads to Moscow....I have shown myself to be a gentleman over and over. I wish to discuss in a logical matter, the issues I have now repeated twice. Posts such as the last one you submitted indicate to me that you're not willing to face my thoughts.
I'm not a cyber-tough guy. I am a very real and approachable guy. I do art shows with packed houses and am more than willing to expose myself to anyone who wishes to meet up with me in Detroit City. I can enjoy a beer with people or take it outside, or both.
So what do you think about the subject matter I have brought forward relating to the topic?
 
Roads To Moscow
Dianic

Wicked Pictures,Vouyer Media, Axel Braun Productions, Marc Dorcel, JoyBear Pictures, abbywinters.com
1390 Posts
7/05
Posted - Apr 28 2010 : 1:44PM
I've been in this business professionally for twenty years, originally in advertising and sales, now in promotion. A much-older relative on my grandmother's side of the family made his bones directing horror and softcore porn through his company in Las Vegas from the 1950s to the 1970s, so my firsthand knowledge of the way things are in the business goes back much further than the start of my own career in 1990.
It breaks down like this:
This is makes as much sense as asserting that the world is controlled by inter-dimensional shape-shifting aliens or the moon is a gigantic spaceship. Regarding the last sentence in particular, the heyday for ATM was actually way back in the loops era and the Golden Age heyday of gentlemen like Alex De Renzy in the 1970s. Despite your stated fondness for David Icke, I suspect you're a younger chap with a limited knowledge of the pre-video adult industry.
There was a guy around here recently called Tobias who espoused the notion that tranny videos were part of a decades-old conspiracy between the adult industry and the shadowy one-world government to "turn America gay" (his exact words).
You state your agenda well, but to believe (as you seriously put forth here and in virtually every other thread to which you contribute) that there is a conspiracy afoot with grand designs to rob you of your specific fetish just makes no sense. As the relative I referenced above used to say, "I'm in the business of making what people want to buy. If they wake up tomorrow wanting to buy Strauss waltzes, then I'll start making Strauss waltzes."

Roads To Moscow / Twitter: @roadstomoscow

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Posted - Apr 28 2010 : 1:49PM
Why aren't there more porn movies featuring the Strauss waltze? This seems to be a completely ignored fetish.
Roads To Moscow
Dianic

Wicked Pictures,Vouyer Media, Axel Braun Productions, Marc Dorcel, JoyBear Pictures, abbywinters.com
1390 Posts
7/05
Posted - Apr 28 2010 : 1:50PM
AsianAnalPantyhoserGuy
Deactivated User

Ass fucking/ foot fetish/ pantyhose= insanity!
465 Posts
3/10
Posted - Apr 28 2010 : 4:20PM
Roads to Moscow, see that wasn't so bad was it? I appreciate your input at a professional level without the sarcastic references to paranoia. That is not to say that I don't believe there is a grand conspiracy afoot. It is just much more humane to treat others with respect, take what it is they have to offer, and throw away what you disregard without a knee-jerk insult. I don't know about you, but I look forward to submitting the evidence in a very methodical and respectable manner.
Thanks again.
mharris127
Senior Member

1844 Posts
8/09
Posted - Apr 28 2010 : 4:45PM
The day I hear traditional classical music in a current porno, I'll turn into Kimi Lixx. Which is to say it will likely not happen (considering I am 300 pounds heavier, much uglier and have the wrong plumbing)!
Roads To Moscow
Dianic

Wicked Pictures,Vouyer Media, Axel Braun Productions, Marc Dorcel, JoyBear Pictures, abbywinters.com
1390 Posts
7/05
Posted - Apr 28 2010 : 5:17PM
^ As a cellist, perhaps I should form a band with Bobbi Starr, the other classical musician I know in porn.
But I only play heavy metal. I don't think she'd be impressed.
Roads To Moscow / Twitter: @roadstomoscow
AsianAnalPantyhoserGuy
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Ass fucking/ foot fetish/ pantyhose= insanity!
465 Posts
3/10
Posted - Apr 28 2010 : 11:49PM
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I know who DOES want to steal porn.
ChodeMasterJ
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4/03
Posted - Apr 29 2010 : 3:51AM
^ I like her. :)
Roads To Moscow
Dianic

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1390 Posts
7/05
Posted - Apr 29 2010 : 2:15PM
Johnothan Pedak
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Catastrophe
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6/07
Posted - Apr 29 2010 : 3:33PM
I'd buy it.
Roads To Moscow
Dianic

Wicked Pictures,Vouyer Media, Axel Braun Productions, Marc Dorcel, JoyBear Pictures, abbywinters.com
1390 Posts
7/05
Posted - Apr 29 2010 : 3:35PM
^ I'd perform the score. C'mon, let's get this fetish going, I'm smelling cash here...
bouges
Member

101 Posts
11/08
Posted - Apr 29 2010 : 3:55PM
Seriously, though probably not the waltz, but to combine porn, dance, and music together would be pretty fantastic.
Gummy Bear
Deactivated User

94 Posts
4/10
Posted - Apr 29 2010 : 5:14PM
As pronounced as the problem of video piracy is now, it's only bound to get worse. It's amazing how many kids in their late teens literally don't even realize it's illegal. They've grown up with social networks like MySpace and FaceBook. In their little virtual world, "file sharing" is as accepted as loaning someone a book might have been 20 years ago.
Stalag
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476 Posts
1/10
Posted - Feb 20 2011 : 6:41PM
Porn should be dvd only.
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