As tiresome as the IR debate in porn has become, it is just inescapable if you watch porn. Porn is obsessed, yes obsessed, with race. It's not just the girls who say they don't do it. The whole industry is fucked up on the issue of race. If you watch porn, you almost can't get away from it, which is what I find so irritating. I was watching two different porn scenes today. Neither scene is an IR scene. In fact, they have absolutely nothing to do with IR. There's not a black person in sight in either scene. Yet and still, in each scene, the model and the director/cameraman spend way too long talking about how she once fucked a black guy. You would have thought she had said that she fucked the Loch Ness Monster by the way they were talking about it: "OMG! What would you father say if he knew you fucked a black guy?!" "What was it like fucking a big black guy?!" It was so retarded that I had to turn it off. I'm just curious if there are people who like this type of dialogue in porn. This is not the first time I've heard dialogue like this in porn either. Like I said, even in scenes have absolutely nothing to do with IR, they'll still find some way to talk about it. I can't count the number of non-IR scenes I've watched where there is always some joke or comment about IR, or black guys. What's the deal with this? Is this the new trend in porn? Do these guys just have insecurity issues? Why do they have to find any excuse they can to talk about "big black dicks?" PornPros is famous for it. Almost all of their scenes now must have IR commentary (by the way, the two scenes I'm referring to are from that network). It's just a real turn-off to have to listen to that in a scene that has nothing to do with race or IR. That's why I'm responding to this thread now. I was agitated. It's as if these idiots either don't know, or don't care, that "big black guys" might actually be watching this shit. Edited by - realtip on 5/2/2009 11:14:26 AM
Maybe in time it'll become big. I think there's plenty of niches to explore in porn (most of which have been done already but) who knows there may be a big demand for this somewhere in the world. Thanks for the tips killbill.
"And the vast majority of "IR porn" out there is what I would describe as degrading porn" You're fucking retarded! So IR porn is the most degrading huhh? Let's take a look around the porn world shall we? Khan Tusion = white Max Hardcore = white Sexbox.com = Germans Peter Enis = Germans Facial Abuse = White guys Dogma = Japanese Men Steve Holmes (constantly slaps and chokes women out all the time) = Euro Jm Productions = White guys Rocco (No longer capable of achieving orgasm unless the womans head is in a toilet) = Euro Pissing.com = white guys Manuel Ferrara (fucks Tyla Winn in the ass while her head is in the toilet)= euro Extreme Associates = White guys Sex and Submission = white guys Steven French (beat Alex Devine to a pulp in "donkey Punch") - White or something Who came up with doulbe anal? White men Who came up with anal full nelson? White men Who choked the shit out of Roxy Jezel several times in a gangbang = several white guys Who writes the most degrading scene bios for gagfactor.com? = white men
I love hardcore porn no matter what color the person is. But no man in this business has worked harder to degrade women more then the white man. A lot of the black guys are just as rough and there have been many "black pipe layers" scenes that I think have been pretty rough. But you only think it's degrading because you personally don't like seeing a white woman fucking a black guy. No different then a women that has no desire to give a man head, thinks sucking a cock is degrading. I love the rational of losers like you who would have no problem with your daughter saying she wont fuck a black guy... just before she puts her tongue into a white mans and then gets choked out until she passes out. As long as that mans skin is light colored it's ok i guess. The truth is, is that black guys can't even get that bad because if Max Hardcore was black he would have been in jail 15 years ago. If Khan Tusion was black Piss mops would not have lasted a few months. My friend I ask You.... If a black man pisses on a girl - is it not yellow? If a black man ass hole is licked - does it not taste like shit? Don't be a uniter not a divider. I bet you watch a lot of FOX news don't you.
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Posted - May 11 2009 : 7:05PM
That reminds me of something: Why are there so few IR scenes with black women? Not enough black female talent? Too many white male performers who don't want to work with black women (but Howard Stern doesn't ask them, so the truth remains untold)? Are there black female performers who only want to work with black male talent? Producers/Directors don't like shooting with black female talent? Any ideas/insights? This really is an earnest question from an outsider who happens to like seeing black females with white males in scenes that don't have the "let's bang the ghetto bitch" theme. And very rarely gets to see that. Edited for overestimating the role of one of the participants. Edited by - poloprinz on 5/11/2009 7:08:56 PM
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Posted - May 11 2009 : 9:15PM
In pornoland, there is no such thing as an IR scene with a black woman.
First of all I'm totally for interracial porn. I've fucked girls of all races. Second, I don't degrade women. We play sex games and if she likes it I get rough with her.
Honestly, as a black male speaking, I think there are less attractive black women in the business. I think the ratios of attractive black women/ total black women & attractive white women/total white women, are the same.. just imo, there are less black women in the business.. therefore, i stated what i did. I love all types of women, and I owe that to porn actually. I don't think its completely true about black women only working with black males. It's just a lot of em are only paired with black males. Porn will lose thousands, maybe millions when it actually becomes "acceptable" to work with any male or female no matter what color they are.. and it not be a gimmick. its sad. Edited by - xayhoundb on 5/12/2009 4:34:26 PM
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Posted - May 12 2009 : 8:50PM
Just to clarify, it wasn't my intention to state anything other than the fact that i wonder why there are so few wM/bF scenes out there. Especially if, as IdaLupino put it, this is not considered IR in pornland. Which obviously means that black actresses can't refuse to work with whites and therefore the answer to my question regarding this is "Might be but it makes no difference."Maybe, but on the other hand, in a society that has changed in the way you describe it, those losses will be compensated by the countless pairings that will then be possible. Partly because white men will no longer refuse to watch scenes with black women. Which is obviously the case now (i've done some research since my last posting).
Don't mean to attack you at all. I just think a lot of your work has been much rougher than anything I've seen a black male performer do. I love it! Myself. Just watched a scene of your last night from public disgrace.com You were with a blond on a boat. Solid work.
I didn't feel attacked, but I wanted to clarify. We play consensual adult sex games. For our own and the viewers pleasure. Be aware that the victims in a action movie don't actually die. There is so much porn produced every day. Just pick and choose what is right for you. Best regards Steve Holmes
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Posted - May 13 2009 : 6:43AM
An accurate statement of exactly who's producing the most degrading content in the industry. Edited by - Zaer on 5/13/2009 6:43:28 AM
This is a hard one I think most girls that don't do interracial is probably because they are not their type. My mate is white and he only ever dates latin/black women. Another reason could be that their boyfriends/husband don't want them to do interracial porn. (Which is wrong but is not the girls fault) I don't think you can label female pornstars that don't do interacial as racist are ignorant. Maybe for some it is to do with race. I don't buy the whole it is bad for your career if you do interracial scenes as Jenna Haze/ Sasha grey/ Brianna Love/ Gianna Michaels etc are the biggest stars out their at the minute and have not been affected by doing interracial. I know the most sought after girl to do her first interracial scene is Alexis Texas. Black guys love this chick.
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Posted - May 17 2009 : 7:04PM
Every white male is their type? Highly improbable. And you would then have to explain why they do scenes with other ethnicities such as Asians and Latinos yet refuse to work with Blacks. Obviously it's a racial issue with them.Given that they will work with every other race except blacks it's obvious that their decision is rooted in racism.Of course they aren't affected by doing such scenes with people of other races, but logic doesn't have anything to do with racism.
Before I even read this thread, may I say this?! Who cares?! This is obviously a preference. Racisism, alot of times, seems to occure when people aren't minding their own business. Granted, if you put things on the table, you'll get a reaction! Go Figure!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted - May 18 2009 : 5:22AM
Since when is every white male their type? You never get to see the ones they say no to. Also I have been watching porn for 25 years and I have never, ever seen an Asian man in any porn movie ever. Granted I don't watch Japanese porn but then again watching a girl shove live eels up her ass is not my thing either.
Ok since we are on the subject of IR porn.. I have noticed (correct me if I'm wrong) when you have a BM/BW I've noticed it's always a fair skinned women with a dark man or it's the other way around. Not saying it's always the case but it's noticeable.
^No you're not stating anything incorrect. As you said it's not all the time but there is a definite trend. In fact it's all over the black community, in Essence the light-skinned girl always gets the cover. The light-skinned girls that model the clothes in fashion shows or wherever else usually get the jobs. In the movies, the couples are usually cast so that the girl is lighter-skinned than the guy. I can tell you that as a light-skinned black guy I have problems dating sisters who are quite a bit darker than I am. (And not just because I'm a loser or whatever insult y'all are thinking of right now.) I have heard black girls say on more than one occasion things like "oh I'd never date a brother who's lighter than I am. Then I wouldn't look as glamorous/hot/wouldn't stand out as much/whatever"; thankfully they've never said that when referring specifically to me - well not to my face anyway. I could go on and on about why this is/may be the case, but that's for another discussion. Right now I'll leave it here and say that you're not crazy, and what you've noticed is definitely a common occurrence. [edit: fixed a sentence] Edited by - killbillvol69 on 5/22/2009 8:55:53 PM
Nevermind Edited by - ntfighter on 5/24/2009 7:21:15 PM
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Posted - May 22 2009 : 9:48PM
I have mixed feelings about this because I see “IR”, outside of porn as being a societal issue as well. My views are in the minority, but nevertheless shared. By society’s label I am considered “African American”. By my label, I am just an American and if someone wants to personally identify me, ask me my name. It’s difficult for me to watch “IR” because I don’t identify with the likes of Sean Michael, Mr. Marcus, and Lex. In fact, I cannot stand these “actors”, because they allow stereotypes / myths in society and in porn to continue. I still find myself drawn into watching “IR”, because I prefer to date women with liter skin than myself, but I do not label who I date as “white”, etc. I label who wishes to date me by her name and as an equal. I don’t date a “white” woman based on some need to be inferior or whatever else of contradiction. It’s not as easy when you are kind of introverted but funny, intelligent, individual. A lot of women I have talked with and some dated have a back round of dating “black men”, which I don’t like. I rather date someone without that type of back round or at least a guy who didn’t need the societal label of “black” and or “African American”, to describe who he is. Or a large penis associated in being “black”. Porn doesn’t help that myth, rather horribly exploits it. Porn needs to eliminate stereotypical stigmas much like society at large. Titles with very offensive titles that focuses on the stereotype of an “African American male” penis needs to stop. It only makes the racial division in society and porn more separated. I do blame “actors” like Mr. Marcus for continuing this unneeded trend. Focus on the profession itself rather than on the stereotypes which makes the performances seem unnatural and offensive to many. It’s difficult to view “IR”, because I cannot see myself in the matter that Mr. Marcus, Lex, etc sees themselves and countless other “brothers” in society, especially in sexual situations with a “white” gal. It’s truly degrading to watch someone like Wesley Pipes, Lex, Ramón, etc firstly exploit being blessed with a large penis then use it in vain. Be gentle to a woman’s body; you don’t have to play on the stereotype and insert your penis so far it’s clearly uncomfortable and painful for the woman performer and makes you not cool, rather sick and sexually abusive in my view. Would it be too hard to have guys with my skin tone that believes not in stereotypes but in the profession itself, not have a large penis, rather between 5-7 inches? Isn’t this more reality? Yes, porn can be of reality, because human beings are involved.
I know that is a lot to ask for, but the time to eliminate racial stereotypes, myths, labels, etc in society and in porn must be now. These guys are not heroes nor cool. Nor is TT Boy, Mike Hammer, Holmes, Ramón, etc heroes or cool. Being cool is showing you can treat a woman with respect as an equal. I don’t care if a woman is so mentally unstable (almost all the female porn population is) and says sexually based stuff as a sick way of trying to turn herself on or identify with the abuse she may have been through as a child, teen, adult--- you don’t choke her… you don’t stick your large penis inside her that you know will cause her to be in pain… you don’t spit / pee / be aggressive / threatening… You be human because, although these women are having sex for a fee, they deserve the right to be treated as human beings! Being cool is working & studying hard, being successful, achieving, being a decent & compassionate person, making sure your family is secure / stable / content, and knowing how to treat others with respect, dignity, love including yourself. There is a lot of blame to go around; we need to put down our biases and offer whatever we can to get those in porn to see each other as equals and eliminate the bad ways in which others are viewed….and performed onto. Hirer new talent of true diversity to make the relationship in “IR” actually real and not some myth-generated stereotypical load of B-S. I have met women who are into the thug-type of man AKA Pipes, Marcus, many more, but I have met beautiful women who saw me as an equal and an individual without stereotypes and myths. That’s how porn should be and society.
lookin around at agencies and seeing how many brand new 18-19 year old girls actually having interracial on their card make wonder why this is such a big deal, some do anal some don't and some do IR and some don't...
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Posted - May 23 2009 : 7:03PM
No I am not. I am not taking sides on this debate (too badly at least), but there is a concern in how "IR" in porn and "IR" relationships in our normal realities are perceived. I was honest in what I see from porn and experienced outside of it.
Just the opposite. We play with stereotypical stigmas for the fun of the viewers. We are not "PC". People who watch porn don't expect us to be political correct.Why??? If that's what people want to see, we will deliver. If the customers choice change we will adopt.Don't blame him. He just does, what the director asks him to do.Many girls I know like to be treaded rough. Let's give them the pleasure.Yes I do, when I know she is into that. And that has nothing to do if she is black or yellow or white. Best regards Steve Holmes
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Posted - May 24 2009 : 10:54PM
Too many pages to read all the way through this, I just want to know if there are any black dudes who won't do white chicks?
^I'm sure there are. Maybe not by their choice tho.
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Posted - May 25 2009 : 11:47PM
It's late and I will not go into specifics, but down the road I will properly respond back. "In 1968, his family managed to cross the Turkish border while on holiday in Bulgaria and sought asylum at the German consulate in İstanbul" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Holmes). If this was your family's path to a better way of life, I am surprised you would take a stance NOT of the hardships most porn actresses endure and how difficult emotionally it may be for her to simply refuse to do an unpleasurable sex act.
Here is a suggestion Mr. Holmes… Why don’t you give asylum to very emotionally damaged porn actresses in the way of proper medical health coverage, importantly in the way of psychological help? If your influence in the world of porn can make sure STD testing is regularly done, why can’t you make sure these same women you exploit have the opportunity to seek other medical needs? Possibly are you and countless others in this business, afraid if these emotionally damaged porn actresses seek a therapist rather than you, drugs, or sex some of them may have a fighting chance in life not to think of themselves as whores, therefore justifying the need to continue to have sex on film for a fee? How come Mr. Holmes, you and your family can traveled to seek asylum, yet the slim-petite framed women you cast / direct / produce / perform can be forced to be in a choked / abusive scene(s) because you feel she is “enjoying” it or be cast with a very large penis guy while someone tells her to make like she is enjoying it? What the public should want is NOT what you just tried to defend Sir.
As everybody else in this business I'm responsible for my own health insurance. Porn is not the right business for everybody. I try not to book girls who are not mentally stable or don't enjoy the acts we are performing. Especially when I'm shooting BDSM scenes where "abuse" is part of the game. I know a lot of girls who enjoy these acts. A lot of them have regular respected jobs and just do it in private for fun. The key for good porn is to cast the right people. Just yesterday we had a big casting with 30 girls from whom we picked 6. Look at http://www.meninpain.com/. Here the men get "abused" by women. Also in this case it is a consensual game.Every performer pays for her/his own STD testing. Nothing stops them to visit a doctor or therapist.Neither you nor me can tell the public what they should want. They decide at the point of sales what they buy. I just do what I like to do with other people who enjoys it and hope somebody wants to watch it. Edited by - Steve Holmes on 5/26/2009 5:45:54 AM
This really is being blown out of proportion I think. Interracial porn should be a great thing and is coming to a stage where it is almost a norm but there seems to be a group of people on both sides of it who are not in support of it. It's unfortunate.
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Posted - May 26 2009 : 3:35PM
The unfortunate aspect is how the adult industry projects the image of racial superiority in a very horrible and un-American way. Is this industry helping racial matters by continuously hiring thug-like, stereotypical, myth-continuing, pants snagging down "actors"? No. If you must hirer "African American" males for "IR" scenes, eliminate the need to label such a scene regardless if this may confuse some guy outside who needs an ethic stigma to decide what to jerk-off to... I don't see anything stimulating watching some guy with a large penis make gang signs and focus on his ethnicity, while "performing" with a slim "Caucasian" blue eyed gal who is clearly in pain rather than enjoyment. How is this making "IR" mainstream and further accepted? It's not, because the studios, directors, producers would like to continue to make "IR" unnatural but a huge selling market for sick-o's. People like Michaels, Marcus, diesel, etc look stupid and racist themselves for not taking a stand, not on why more emotionally damaged females don't do "IR" but on the underline problem here... Why "IR" continues to be display as unnatural using the most stereotypical "brothers" in society. The union I see in myself and others is that of natural commitment & respect along with equality. I see someone with my skin tone holding hands with someone with blond hair - blue eyes as a natural beauty that shouldn't be perceived the way this racist BS is in porn, but sadly it is. Put blame where it lies. The actors / actresses along with those that employ and market deserve equal blame. If I was a politician, I would be public in my disdain even if I had to admit I watched it. At least I can force this industry to unionize, organize, and allow equality and better working conditions be the norm for everyone involved.
I think it is very much the American way. I don't know any other country where IR porn is produced and marketed like this. It satisfies a special US demand. Here in Europe we don't have many black or asian performers. Neither female nor male. But the ones we have, work together with the caucasian performers as equal and not in any special IR scenes.We are only here to entertain people.Than you should not buy or rent it. There is so much porn out there that you really have the choice. Do you also dislike rap for that reason?They are all great guys who play the role they are given.Please choose your role freely but don't tell other people how they should live their lives.Porn is the best work environment you can imagine. We have sex, we have fun, we have money and we have freedom. Steve Holmes
Most performers don't care much for race. If somebody is cool to fuck it's fun. No matter what race. But who has racial preferences is free to do so. That is not only true for race. I know girls who work only with girls and some refuse to work with girls. I know one black girl who refuse to work with black man and I know many white girls who love their chocolate. Steve Holmes
If you're looking towards performers to change how the ways things are done, you're knocking on the wrong door. Seems to me that many just wanna have fun, make their money and gain a little notoriety. They are not looking to make any sort of political change. If you are blaming anyone, you should blame your fellow American for buying the crap. It all boils down to money. Porn producers would shoot scenes ad nauseam of girls pooping boiled eggs out of their asses if it was selling. Vote with your dollars.
I try my best to bring integrity to anything I do. I figured if I was the "black" guy in a movie, I'd be the best guy period. So you wouldn't be stuck on the "black" guy shit. Get past it and realize I do my best to be a solid performer, with whoever I'm working with. Feel me. Porn thrives off the racial element brought to these movies...more so the consumer seems to work out his or her racial prejudices through adult fare. Don't know if it makes us that much more turned on...I'd have to argue it does. Cause the issue is still here...clear and present. Your anonymous behind a computer so you can say whatever ya want and never really feel challenged by it. I actually have to deal with the race issue, daily. But I rather deal with good people versus bad and those 2 types of people are every color, every race. So it's a choice to not get "stuck" in this type of conversation.
That scene is from the 1980's, before the German and French porn became more "Americanized" (=watered down). An Anita Feller of today would just be an anonymous porn chick, as nobody would be showcasing her kinky side and she'd be relegated to the same ol' same ol' unimaginative cookie-cutter scenes as everyone else. The whole "vote with your dollars" thing is a one-way street. It might make some producer continue making a certain genre/kink/fetish. But it won't make any producer deviate from whatever rut they happen to be in.
I completely agree Mr Holmes, I never really think about it when I'm watching movies. I saw a Norwegian film which had a black male performer and it was no big scene, nothing was even mentioned on the cover about it. What I'm saying though is if people don't like the term 'interracial' or how it's marketed they should just avoid it. Surely teen porn and MILF flicks have a slightly ageist slant on them to and are marketed in a slightly stereotypical way, but as you say this is what a lot of people want so you the industry provides. Simple as that. The adult industry caters for all tastes without judging or discriminating. If you think about performers like Jake Steed I don't think their race was really ever mentioned much with regards to their films, he wasn't marketed as 'big black stud' or anything. Maybe this is just my naivety.
Yes that is true Lavish Styles (who looks like rihanna) only does white guys in her scenes.
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Posted - May 29 2009 : 4:46PM
Well, well, well... Mr. Marcus himself. Someone who is my opposition finally faces the truth. Someone I cannot respect. Someone who continuously makes "IR" dirty, unnatural, and racial. In "Pornland" your penis saves you from contradiction and blame. In my word of reality, you are not saved from being contradicted and heavily blamed.Is this poor excuse of rationalizing sleeping with emotionally damaged and some sexually abused women for money, helps you sleep better at night? ‘Integrity’ is defined by a “firm adherence to a code of especially moral or artistic values” (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/integrity). Mr. Marcus, nothing about you symbolizes integrity. In fact, you severely lack what it takes to be a man of integrity. I flourish as a man with integrity and insight, because I choose not to hurt others unlike you, rather better help others in need while bettering myself in that process. Having sex with very emotionally unstable females for money is a sickness; I hope you receive the proper help.Feel you? I don’t feel up men! Take this street language elsewhere. I grew up in an urban environment yet I fully understand the English language without using slang terms all because due to my skin tone society tells me it’s acceptable. What is acceptable for me is always showing I have a decent and compassionate character and my integrity prevents me from doing wrong. You may be cool to many depressed males, and sleep with many beautiful but very emotionally damaged ladies, but I and you are very different. I believe I will come out the winner while you will only be remembered as a racist “black” porn actor. That is your legacy in life and beyond.Porn thrives because people like you continue to thrive. If people like you can simply use your intelligence rather than your sickness to find legit employment, porn would not continue to addict and emancipate. Consumers should want to see equality through porn. It’s amazing you are so naïve that you fail to see producers / directors / studio heads are using you and other ethic based performers. Notice how “black” performers are the ones who perform and act racist, yet the ones behind this societal decay make the most money and are not culpable. It shouldn’t make anyone turned on… Should I be turned on to see someone like you having sex with the image of woman I prefer to date? I am not turned on. In fact, I am turned off! You continue the myths and stereotypes in society that should be eliminated. God forbid a “black” guy without a large penis would be respected in your life? God forbid a “black” guy without a large penis should walk outside and after dating, have a sexual relationship with a “Caucasian” woman, because men like you say, it’s simply wrong and that “brother” should be hanged for being born not like Mr. Marcus, Diesel, Pumper, etc…Yea, yea, yea. If you saw me in person you would want to cause harm to me. I am a proud American. I am simply voicing my opinion what is entitled to me. I can freely say I do not like you for these reasons. But that doesn’t mean I want to cause you harm. I don’t. I am concerned about the macro picture of porn in society. You are considered a micro concern. If we did meet and you knew who I was, I would not back down. I am not that strong nor someone who fights on a daily basic. But I would not back down even if I know you could hurt me badly. I have principles and values I would gladly die for.The same race issues that you help continue in porn huh? The same race issues that you feel you are helping mend by performing in many “IR” scenes with women that are willing to do an “IR” scene, but must endure the pain of having some sexually large-penis superior street-type of a man have sex with them… That is not mending the racism in porn. That is helping it continue. You are partly to blame. You are not without contradiction. Go ahead and flash a gang sign now Marcus... Go ahead and imagine you are hitting me like you may have with Olivia Saint and possibly others. “Sylvia Saint's management writes: To make things clear regarding her and Marcus Salvia's short relationship with Mr. Marcus was based only on their sexual attraction - there was nothing more than sex and professional work. No true love or feelings nothing what people thought it was. /Silvia / This relation split during her last stay in Los Angeles November 2000. There is unfortunately something between them that cause they are not able to be friends anymore. You can contact Silvia Saint: SilviaSaint@dreament.cz” (http://www.lukeisback.com/stars/stars/mr_marcus.htm). It’s takes more than your large-penis to keep a woman happy and safe. Those other skills to keep a woman happy and safe, unfortunately you don’t seem to better understand. I could teach you but why? Based on your words, the only aspect of a woman you find interesting is her sexual appearance. That makes you very vain and lonely. I am glad she moved from porn. I hope she is happy and safe and in a committed relationship.
I recently watched an episode of "Can He Score?", a subsite of BangBros. In it, AMY REID told the (purportedly) amateur co-star that she's never done a black guy, while he mentioned that he's done black girls. Later in the scene, while riding his cock, she asks him "Does your black meat fuck you like that?", which I found quite embarrassing and a bit nasty. She's been much less of a favorite of mine since ... Edited by - sound67 on 5/29/2009 6:20:35 PM
@modestguynyc I was hoping you would calm down after your first few posts but clearly that hasn't happened, so now I'll have to step in. You are definitely crossing all sorts of lines about proper ADT forum etiquette. Please read that page closely. Your accusations, your assumptions and your generalizations have no place here. If you wish to discuss the subject of racism in porn, that's one thing. Here, you're basically arguing that all porn featuring a black man and a white woman is bad, all white women who agree to work with a black man on camera are victims and emotionally unstable, etc. If you look back through this thread there are many people who have claimed that racism is indeed a problem in porn (myself included). But few of them have done it in such a way as to guarantee to offend everyone, both those who agree and those who disagree. As some others have observed, it almost seems as if you don't like or approve of porn, in which case I must ask why you're here in the first place. If you don't like porn, please, feel free to go somewhere else. The internet is a big place. If you do like porn, perhaps we should be able to observe that in your posts. Again, it's not that you're not allowed to voice your opinion, or disagree with the opinions of others; it's that you shouldn't brush with such wide strokes as to assume anything and everything is bad. What's the point? None of this is OK. Change your tone, change your focus... change it all.
We don't abuse women neither do they abuse us male performers. We work very respectfully with each others. The girls are the stars. They have their no-list and wish-list. It helps a male performer to be on a lot of wish-lists and few no-lists.Don't worry, the people know what turns them on or off by themselves. They don't need you as a taste dictator.Why do you watch it than? Does anyone forces you?Why don't you just turn off the TV?What are you proud off? The almost extinction of the native Americans, the slavery which lasted longer than in Europe, Vietnam, Abu Ghuraib,.....? Please be more precise. Steve Holmes
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20 Posts 5/09
Posted - May 29 2009 : 7:09PM
Steve Holmes, you are some big money making -porn director who forces very emotionally damaged and sexually / verbally abused young ladies to have sex on film for money... Why is it your mission to try and contradict me? Don't feel because you read my rebuts and quote you are now intelligent. You are not intelligent. You are a pimp and worst. You are a deviant with a passion to enslave women who have been through horrible times. Feed her sex, drugs, and more sex and more drugs with unsafe working conditions and no talk of an union nor a better life outside of porn. You know if an union was fully developed and active, people like you would not make any real money... People like you would now be in a public display. Allowing others to see what you do and how you treat your employees. You couldn't get away with the cruelties I read you put women through. Here I'm single looking for love and marriage, yet men like you and Marcus run free in society without culpability. Not any more. Let people like Mr Marcus (if that was him I rebutted to) respond. You I don't know. I do not respect you neither. And I hope Homeland Security or ICE deports you from America if you are here, or prevents you and others like you from coming in. If so, at least these emotionally imbalanced young gals can have a chance at a healthier life. I may be a straight male, but I do care for so many women that go without the proper medical treatment due to sexual / verbal abuse or just a very bad up-bringing. Members in here may have children who are girls. Imagine your little girl very depressed, runs away to Holywood to be a porn star because after being raped or sexually abused, she now feels living as a whore is all she can do to make a living while wanting to feel beautiful despite feeling ugly inside... Of course this is OK for members in here, because it's always the justification of "not my little girl"! But it's just perfect to jerk-off to young ladies like this vignette. So, please safe it. I understand I can do little to prevent you from what you do, but I don't have to read your Laissez-faire words.
