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Emmetpunk
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Posted - Nov 21 2011 : 4:06PM
There's always just talk about racism against african americans in porn, like how alot of white female perfomers avoid working with them and all these things you've heard before. But what about the black racism against caucasians? In several interracial movies (black guy on white girl), the theme is to degrade and insult caucasian men.. for an example there is a videoseries of 20(!) films entitled "White Boy Stomp" .. there couldn't be a more racist title than this. I've even seen films that shows a white man shoved into a caged, then insulted through the scene while a black man fucks a white woman on top of the cage.
There would be a riot in the adult business if a title like "Black Boy Stomp" came out. So how come this kind of racism is supported?
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Posted - Nov 21 2011 : 5:09PM
^ Would it change things if you discovered these films were produced by/for white men?
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Posted - Nov 21 2011 : 5:24PM
Comparing performers being discriminated against in the real world to performances for the camera is just a tad disingenuous, wouldn't you agree?
As to why your 'black racism' exists in porn, pornographers only care about one thing - does it sell? If outrageous titles and themes get people to buy your movies then outrageous titles and themes is what you give them. Yes, it is lazy and usually stupid, but these guys aren't vying for a Nobel prize here.
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Posted - Nov 21 2011 : 5:48PM
Zoe Voss ceased to do IR because of the use of racist derogatory use of her being white
bootymeister
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Posted - Nov 21 2011 : 6:03PM

The OP is a racist post. The series is about black women getting gang banged by white guys. If there is another series, please state the studio or porn stars involved.

Also, African Americans do not have economic leverage over white people, therefore racism on behalf of African Americans is not possible in America. The economic impact of racism, actual or potential, is all we care about.
 
RandomPrecision
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Posted - Nov 21 2011 : 6:14PM
I keep wondering why we need real world PC in porn?
degroot1981
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Posted - Nov 21 2011 : 6:44PM
^ 100% agree, its porn people who gives a crap what they say or do in it. The point is to get your rocks off and if you did then dont complain about how it happened just enjoy that it did.
wraithlead
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Posted - Nov 21 2011 : 7:46PM
Not sure his stuff was a racist post. White boy stomp has a sister series. (Brother series? Oh snap!) A little name confusion is understandable.
But serious....Disingenuous for real! A similar thing that most can follow: Surely you see the difference between hating Jews and playing a Nazi in Indiana Jones: Raiders of the Lost Ark...Jeez...
I agree that the overwhelming power and money gap makes it difficult, but I think 'impossible' is a little too far. But even then, it's on a case by case basis, since none of us know more than two or three black people with enough influence or power to really make anything negative happen to people because of racist opinions, especially in the business community. and porn is a business.
Fourth, Please explain more about this zoe voss thing. depending on the spin, this could mean VERY different things. Who is using racist stuff to describe her? Fans? White fans? Black fans? Studios? Black actors? It makes a huge difference.
Fifth, I don't like all the racist stuff in the scenes either. I don't hate that it exists, but it's a turn-off. I just don't buy it. In addition to the language, the cartoonish over the top idiocy in things like personal appearance of the black guys just to emphasize the fetish is so bad, I can't stand to watch it. It's not what black guys act like. It's not what white women with black guy fetishes are like. It's not even what WHITE guys with a fetish of watching white women with black guys want those black guys to be like.
It's what comes when some lazy porn producer chasing sales thinks the white guy with a fetish of watching white women with black men think those women would least want the black guy to be like. Confusing isn't it...
Show me a scene with black guy who reminds me of myself, with women I'd want to sleep with...Or a black guy who reminds me of what the girls I have a crush on IRL would want to be with, and I'll watch. And get off. lol.
Edited by - wraithlead on 11/21/2011 7:47:32 PM
wraithlead
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Posted - Nov 21 2011 : 7:48PM
And yes, I'm bored tonight, lol...
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Posted - Nov 21 2011 : 8:43PM
Those sound like niche things, because I see interracial scenes in regular films and they are just normal, even all black scenes in an otherwise all white movie. My guess is these kinds of titles are similar to the general degradation kind of films where men abuse women or try to make them cry - just in the case of the weird racialisms, it's more specialized.
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Posted - Nov 22 2011 : 1:23AM
I look at most of these silly names for IR titles with a sense of humor, much like the silly title names for mainstream films from the 70's.
The only time I notice any racism, is when an ignorant performer decides post a rude comment on Twitter, regarding another performer's decision to do IR.
While a description of a title may note it is IR, I don't make any reference to the skin color of performers in the reviews I post.
Newton Cronkite
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Posted - Nov 22 2011 : 1:34AM
The titles alone are offensive in some these movies.
Personally if the director could get Rico and Wesley to stop talking I'd be happy. But seriously I think they're encouraged to talk shit.
People like these type movies, its fantasy. I have never in my life told a woman "suck it bitch" while having sex. I think if you did more than likely you would get a bite.
All that aside I think Zoe Voss gave up IR for other reasons. She a actress playing a part, not some black guys slut. She could just not do degrading scenes, either way I respect right to refuse to do degrading parts. But i hope i don't see her on Kink down the road being slapped by James Deen and gangbanged by 7 caucasians tied, pissed and whipped. Like all the others who refuse IR.
Edited by - Newton Cronkite on 11/22/2011 1:36:21 AM
tankdog
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Posted - Nov 22 2011 : 2:29AM
Who cares. If you start getting all PC with porn it just gets worse and ends up becoming censorship. If anything we need to move in the opposite direction.
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Posted - Nov 22 2011 : 3:10AM
Trolling.
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Posted - Nov 22 2011 : 3:26AM
^
Agreed. IR topics go downhill fast. Twenty more posts, and this one may be locked as well.
 
Emmetpunk
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Posted - Nov 22 2011 : 4:31AM
[mod edit: image removed. see the image policy. No pubic area allowed]
Edited by - killbillvol69 on 11/22/2011 7:34:11 AM
Emmetpunk
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Posted - Nov 22 2011 : 4:55AM
What about other porntitles like "Black Power" which is a running movieseries, how would you react if you saw a porn entitled "White Power" ? Same thing, but differently accepted.
Edited by - Emmetpunk on 11/22/2011 4:59:31 AM
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Posted - Nov 22 2011 : 5:15AM
dogzcatcher wrote:
IR topics go downhill fast. Twenty more posts, and this one may be locked as well.
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That pic above should do the trick, I'm naming the pic 'Muff and Tuff please send all proceeds from the naming rights to JonnyJay@aol.com.
Cyborger
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Posted - Nov 22 2011 : 7:45AM
1. White Boy Stomp is a racist title? Well what about the porn series of the same name that features white men banging black "bitches" as they call them.
2. A white man in a cage? That's way more degrading than a black women in a cage, blindfolded and forced to suck dick.
3. Have you ever seen Ghetto Gaggers? That goes beyond anything I've seen in an interracial video featuring a black man and a white woman. You can make your complaints when Ghetto Gaggers become Malibu Gaggers complete with racist dialogue, spitting in the face, slapping, kicking and genuine disrespect for the women they're banging.
Edited by - cyborger on 11/22/2011 10:12:56 AM
Solar4
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Posted - Nov 22 2011 : 8:40AM
I doubt it. The mods allow anti-Black threads like this to thrive. But a few posts talking about discrimination towards Blacks gets a thread locked in short order. And if this one does get locked it'll only be because the thread posts turned towards pointing out the discrimination towards Blacks in the industry.
And the ghetto gaggers post is absolutely correct. You simply don't see the sort of widespread abusive almost vindictive movies being put out by Blacks that you do with whites against Blacks.
About Zoe Voss, that's a nonsensical excuse. There are a number of Black performers she could work with that would be fine. And the studio she was citing is known to be bottom barrel.
Edited by - Solar4 on 11/22/2011 8:45:31 AM
Peoples Temple
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Posted - Nov 22 2011 : 12:58PM
I figured a thread like this would attract a lot of people making false statements and you proved me right as are others. Racism has nothing to do with economic leverage, that is pure crap nonsense. In your eyes it is the filthy rich that are to blame who do have economic leverage over the masses. It is those filthy rich people who are to blame. Don't you hate those rich people? Take their stuff, they don't deserve it.
bootymeister
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Posted - Nov 22 2011 : 1:28PM

You should either speak for yourself, or even better, do not speak. In America, it is the economic leverage that white people have as a racial group, both the top and bottom of that group, which has been necessary to excercise racism. Without the economic leverage of the racists as a group, the victims do not have to endure the perils of racism, obviously.


No Ivy League sociology department agrees with you. I would tell you to talk to your colleagues within the racial majority, but I am sure you would not be entertained on the campus of any top university. You apparently represent the dumb peoples temple if you can not understand that it takes force to execute racism.


Edited by - bootymeister on 11/22/2011 1:33:33 PM
Peoples Temple
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Posted - Nov 22 2011 : 3:25PM
Booty,
You are the last person I need to lecture me when you are clueless. Go climb back in your ivory tower with your elitist Ivy League professors. I never had any respect for them and the garbage they spew.
Stick to the thread topic, no one likes to read your propaganda.
Mr_Heatmiser
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Posted - Nov 22 2011 : 4:09PM
If people understood what the overwhelming majority of posters looked like in real life they'd realize the futility of these threads. How are you going to argue racism with Joe-bob Briggs? Sex on camera is sex on camera and that should be it, it's only allowed to be 'censorship' when it interferes with Joe-bob's sense of what is right and wrong, otherwise it's freedom of choice.
Also, girls who 'don't do' IR (which is a stupid term misappropriated for sex only with black people) are not really worth talking about, their choices are political and that makes them less than hot, imo.
Knowing who you're directing your argument towards might help people decide whether or not to continue with it.
bootymeister
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Posted - Nov 22 2011 : 4:22PM
You are totally ignorant, I would never think of lecturing you.
Do you have a public school education?
Also, you seem to be a total lunatic. Previously you stated that I hated rich people as racists and now you claim that I am an elitist.



Edited by - bootymeister on 11/22/2011 6:58:58 PM
 
Peoples Temple
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Posted - Nov 22 2011 : 5:28PM
Yeah I got the point, the less said the better. It's no wonder our country is in such a mess and growing worse.
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Posted - Nov 23 2011 : 3:45AM
You do realize that the Black Power series is directed by Joey Silvera don't you? He's a white man. Do you honestly think he's advocating the social dominance of black men over white people?
Halite
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Posted - Nov 23 2011 : 6:58AM
It's a thing of brilliance really, and I'm pretty sure it's one of the most lucrative niches in porn. Making interracial porn with provocative titles that hint towards blacks being supreme is a thing of brilliance. Lots of insecure black people.
Solar4
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Posted - Nov 23 2011 : 7:36AM
Black_White/Asian/Latin scenes aren't that lucrative. If they were, more than 30% of girls would do them.
As for the titles, they're done for shock value and to appeal to viewers (usually white) who think a woman doing a scene with a guy who's Black is more degrading, because of their racist beliefs about Blacks.
And a casual look at message boards when "X girls first IR!" is announced can attest to this fact.
As for the movies, as previously mentioned, they're primarily produced by whites so if anyone is insecure it's white males for coming up with such absurd titles to begin with.
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Posted - Nov 23 2011 : 7:39AM
@Halite: You do know that "titles that hint towards blacks being supreme" are almost always made for white people, by white people, don't you? The cuckold videos, the black cock slut videos, all of that stuff? It's white people that buy it (for the most part), not black people.
Black guys just want to watch movies with black dudes fucking hot girls, black, white, Asian, whatever. It's white people that want the racial element to add to the 'taboo' of sex with blacks. It makes it dirtier (and thus hotter) to them.
(BTW just to be clear, I'm not saying that all white people want this. I'm saying that the people who do want this stuff are, for the most part, white.)
[edit: added name]
Edited by - killbillvol69 on 11/23/2011 7:40:00 AM
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Posted - Nov 23 2011 : 12:27PM
You guys are dumb. I don't buy a lot of porn because 1, I don't need to. And 2 is because the sheer blandness of most major companies. I would love to waste money on pornography, I love these whores. But 9/10 MOST of the GOOD pornography is usually insulting to me and my race so therefor I don't support it. White directors know we'll get a little defensive about the shot and that's partly the sole reason why they do it. You're not about to sit up here and tell me that black people don't waste money on dumb shit like white people do. The whole disrespect thing is part of the orgasm.
If I could walk into any porn shop and see my DVDs KNOWING that my sick and cynical ways are getting people off I'd do it too. So like I said, they know what they are doing when they use that type of dialogs, it has nothing to do with marketability. And please don't tell this Black man what gets me off and what doesn't. It's stupid fucks like you who perpechuate the cycle. For all you know short hairy middle eastern men fucking blueberry muffins inside of a coffee cup does the trick. So watch your fuckin mouth
Edited by - hollywoodbilderberggroup on 11/23/2011 12:29:03 PM
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Posted - Nov 23 2011 : 7:30PM
^ Wait, did you just call someone a "stupid fuck"?
Let's ease up on the name-calling, shall we? This is a friendly place, after all.
[edit: left out a word. oops.]
Edited by - killbillvol69 on 11/23/2011 10:16:06 PM
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Posted - Nov 24 2011 : 12:01AM
Just because you're a moderator doesn't mean shit. Save all that shit 4 tha birds. I'm not about to sit up here and let you play for for some sykotic Internet coon because you have some sortie agenda against a nigga. Mind your business and use your privlages in a more useful way instead of being scared of some black behind a computer screen. You obviously don't know too many of us, you probably are over there scared right now.
You truly can suck all of my genitals if u really feel some way about it.
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Posted - Nov 24 2011 : 12:57AM
Kbill is actually Black and is one of the fairer mods on the board. And from what I've seen his only "agenda" is to keep the board orderly, something a gibberish riddled post like yours makes quite difficult.
And as for this thread I think its run its course.
Edited by - Solar4 on 11/24/2011 12:58:19 AM
 
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@HollywoodBilderbergGroup: you really need to read the forum etiquette, or your stay here will be short-lived.
And not that it should matter in this particular instance, but yes, as Solar4 mentioned, I'm black.
HollywoodBilderbergGroup
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Posted - Nov 24 2011 : 9:34AM
I abide by the rules Im just more straight to the point. I think we all understand why the Etiquette was put in place in the first place. So people from the outside wouldn't come in here and all immature n shit annoying the fuck out of and disrespecting everybody, I get it (I get annoyed a little with that shit too if I'm interested in something).
But wassup with you letting other people devaluize and put a price tag on our women? I'm not talking anything whatsoever about saving any particular whore I'm just saying that it's disrespectful when you give the green light for us to be talked about and labeled as property. That might be okay with you but not me. I'm not about to waste my life on some porn forum fighting people but don't call me out to the side because you recognize the type of nigga I be and you wanna put me in a box.
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Gore Gore Girl All-Star Supporter
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Is this supposed to be ironic?
Ordell
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You're an idiot. Racism needs no money. Hatred comes for free.
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^

You, Ordell, are an asshole. You are racially hateful. Because you have no money, no power, no social standing and no value to anyone of economic means, you have no ability to be a racist.




Edited by - bootymeister on 11/24/2011 9:10:40 PM
Jedi Master Bates
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A poor as dirt person can be super racist. The difference is, only those in power's racism can actually effect the world around them. Technically, the poor person's racism can effect the world too. (see colembine kids.)
bootymeister
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Racism is group versus group. The poor racist uses the resources of the dominant group.

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Posted - Nov 25 2011 : 7:01AM
Enough with the name-calling folks...
Ordell
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You're gonna have to lock this thread, KB. Nothing good can come of it.
Peoples Temple
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Posted - Nov 25 2011 : 3:35PM
Ordell, an old saying is worth remembering, never try to reason with unreasonable people. It is threads like this that bring the termites out of the woodwork. I'm not all that frankly surprised.
Ordell
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Posted - Nov 25 2011 : 4:12PM
Yeah but what are we accomplishing, besides having our opinions of some people poisoned?
A pro wrestling site I frequent added a politics forum. People I used to like for their opinions on wrestling started to show their politics, and I liked them a lot less. So I stopped reading that forum. I wanted to enjoy the wrestling talk.
Same applies here. Just substitute politics for racism.
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Posted - Nov 25 2011 : 4:37PM
All of this has to be said tho, we have to be heard. Y'all act like all whores should be sent into damnation eternally and that black people are still 2/3 of a human in America. If all u wanna do is sit on the sidelines then u might aswell just play House Nigga. I'm all for dominating whores (any race) and treating them like shit (on screen; unless she's just a Bitch) but I'm not gonna play Sambo. I don't owe anybody on here anything.
degroot1981
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Posted - Nov 25 2011 : 7:43PM
The point of this forum is to talk about the greatness that is porn, not to talk politics or racism or the weather for that matter.
If you want to talk racism there are plenty of other "forums" for it.
So lets get back to the porn!
Edited by - degroot1981 on 11/25/2011 7:44:23 PM
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Posted - Nov 25 2011 : 7:54PM
Of course some outsider has all the answers and the people who are actually going through it don't and we're just confused and complaining.
Shit like this only gets ugly when ugly people give ugly answers. This whole "it's just porn" excuse isn't really going over anybody's head.

With that said, watch me get banned.

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