^I do agree it's more an issue of women not speaking up and demanding from their agent to be booked for G/G scenes, in addition to fan requests.
I've noticed a trend that certain agencies have a lot of girls who do very little G/G or not that often. Another thing; I don't think a girl saying she isn't into women would have much of a backlash at all, the majority of fans are fine with girls doing only or mostly B/G, it also pays better.
The holding out for a big payday to do a "1st" like B/G, Anal, or IR doesn't really apply to G/G.
^^and right, as unfair as it is, I know I personally sometimes put certain types of girls into a B/G box. For example, if they have a lot of tats, and mostly do more hardcore "nasty" B/G scenes like a lot of anal, DP, DAP, Squirting or generally Legalporno/TrueAnal/Hookup Hotshot, etc. type scenes. I just assume those kind of women aren't really into G/G.
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Posted - Feb 9 2022 : 6:46PM
That's really unfair since you would be putting women like Casey Calvert and Joanna Angel in that box. Since we know both of them to love women and have had great scenes with women
^ I think we are all guilty of putting girls in some type of box. I used to think back in the day that if a girl isn't talkative in here scenes ala like Celeste Star was then they weren't truly into girls and enjoying the scene. Over time though I realized that wasn't the case. Every girl enjoys scenes differently and have different experiences with different girls.
Even Celeste Star had a scene with Elexis Monroe where she wasn't her talkative self throughout the scene and I loved that scene. So yeah I think we shouldn't box girls in just bc they look a certain way or do more types of scenes as opposed to other types of scenes. Like I've seen Adriana scenes with GFF back in the day that were great and she wasn't even squirting back then and now she has extreme scenes of squirting, anal, a lot of spitting and just bodily fluids but she is still the same great performer in G/G that she is working with trans as well as B/G.
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Posted - Feb 9 2022 : 7:42PM
I think talkativeness for the vast most part is indicative of not really being into the scene as far as being sexually satisfied.
^^^I never put Casey in that box because she always also did a good amount of great G/G scenes. I did put Joanna in it because it was the majority of the type of scenes she did for a long time, and even her G/G scenes tended to be toy heavy. But in the last couple of years she has really shown her love of women with some passionate G/G with a variety of women.
So it looks like Serena Blair has gone from working in front of the camera to behind the camera, and now works on the production side of porn sets.
Obviously I wish she would still shoot scenes, but porn careers don't last forever, and she's been in the industry for 10 years, so it was quite a long career anyways, and bound to happen sooner rather than later.
A real bummer, since imo she was one of the best, and for me the best, GG performer in porn. Good luck to her in her kinda new endeavours, and I'll just treasure my archive of her scenes.
A shame, Serena never really got her due. And she was starting to work with the other G/G companies outside of GirlsWay before things got shut down for the 1st time, and she never got the momentum back. Maybe she can still do the occasional scene here and there.
I feel like the last good (really good actually) gg scenes that Alina did were the ones with Kendra Spade. All the others with Alina seem so performative. Maybe it's thar she hit such heights with Kendra that everything else just seems mundane in comparison.
For anyone who may doubt that Alina Lopez is a terrific G/G performer, I ask that you view the following scenes and then try to defend any other stance that contradicts the fact that Alina's performances with women are nothing short of spectacular:
The Babysitter Rules (Mommy's Girl) - One of the hottest threesome scenes ever made, by far
Paranormal (GirlGirl) - A demonic Alina with Kristen Scott, would make anyone possessed!
Surprise Proposal (Girlsway) - Paired with the iconic Adriana Chechik and totally up to the challenge in both intensity and sensuality
Lesbian Stepsisters Vol. 8 (SHV) - With Abella Danger, you'd believe both were life-long lesbians in this performance
Lesbian Reluctance (GirlGirl) - Alina's performance with Alex De La Flor is so filthy-depraved, so terrific!
The Pick-Up Artist (Girlsway) - With the also iconic Abigail Mac, this one is a fantastic pairing
Mother Lovers Society Vol. 18 (SHV) - Elexis Monroe and Alina make such a stunning older/younger couple
Mommy's Daughter 4 (Girl/Girl) - With London River, a totally delicious pair
^ that's the first time I've heard of the site. Some of the stuff has to be bought from defunct websites, since models like Charlie Laine have long been retired.
On the other hand Milana Ricci is still quite new, and one location has been used quite often by Milana for her manyvids as well, but also for sheseducedme and girlgirl.com which are newer sites.
So I'm guessing there's a mix of content on there, although I do wonder why I've never seen a performer promote a scene they did for them on twitter.
^ Alot said that this was the case that Lacy big news was that she was going to be the new contract star with GFF. Sucks that GFF dropped Serene Siren though. I wouldve just loved for GFF to have Lacy and Serene as contract stars.
Lacy is already asking what performers we like to see her direct? I pointed out Indica Flower, Kenzie Anne, Mary Moody, and Violet Myers. All of them have never shot for GFF and they all are truly into girls you can tell by their scenes so Id love to see them on set for GFF. I also mentioned Kenna James bc she only has shot twice for GFF in her entire career and its a crime bc she is an amazing G/G performer. It would be awesome if she shot a GFF with Kenzie Anne btw bc their chemistry together is amazing.
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Posted - Feb 14 2022 : 7:07PM
^Kenzie Anne has shot for GFF, the scene just isn't out yet. I'm looking forward to that one and the one that's about to release of Adulttime with Aiden Ashley because those Slayed scenes suuuuuuucked just the way Slayed likes their scenes made. I'm interested to see how she does with a more genuinely sensual style in mind.
I like your list save Violet Myers, watched a couple of GG scenes with her on AT and, to me, they weren't at all convincing.
It'll be interesting to see how LL does as a director. If her brain as a director likes how her brain as a performer works, we are in for a treat. In a world of super-dry, low-contact, overly glammed GG, Lacey is a very handsy and physical performer. If she can bring that and inspire that in other performers, she could course-correct the genre.
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Posted - Feb 16 2022 : 12:26AM
Why does it feel like they've added a quota system to lesbian porns? Every scene the performer is basically narrating the scene the whole time with a lot of canned phrases like "that feels/tastes/smells so good", "cum on my face", and perhaps most perplexingly, "your tongue is so soft!". Sure those phrases have been there as long as they've filmed women eating each other out but its never been as overdone as it is now. Maybe it's just an idiosyncratic bugbear for me but when you hear the wailing tart exclaim for the hundredth time that it feels good, the effect just gets diluted. I know American pornstars and directors will never get it, but less is more!
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Posted - Feb 16 2022 : 12:33AM
Jesus Christ I feel like I'm that caricature that Kira Noir spoofs in her scene with Angela White for girlsway.
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Posted - Feb 16 2022 : 1:30AM
Because unfortunately sites are trying to model their content after the shittiest stuff from Girlsway. The constant fake moaning, endless canned phrases, and mind-numbing very random chatting during sex are how Girlsway likes their scenes and they are the biggest GG site, unfortunately, so sites are copying that.
Adulttime/Girlsway produce good GG content on rarer and rarer occasion (not much good in the last 3 months) but most of it is awful, especially the stuff from when they were at their most popular, which is what the other sites are trying to emulate now. Lots of meaningless and random off-putting noise, very very minimum sex action.
Just wanted to create a little topic right here about G/G dream pairings: I mean, what actual pornstars do you want to see together in a lesbian scene??? I will share my wishlist:
1. Jenna Sativa and Aidra Fox. 2. Kenna James and Alina Lopez. 3. Jayden Cole and Skye Blue. 4. Serene Siren and Penny Barber. 5. Jayden Cole and Jenna Sativa. 6. Sinn Sage and Aidra Fox. 7. Lacy Lennon and Whitney Wright. 8. Charlotte Stokely and Laney Grey. 9. Jayden Cole and Aidra Fox. 10. Jenna Sativa and Sinn Sage.
1) Abella Danger, Keisha Grey, and Karlee Grey - Possibly the best trio in the industry of all-time. Best of friends, great performers, and love women. We've never seen these three together in a true G/G which feels not right. Abella has shot multiple scenes with Keisha. She also shot multiple times with Karlee. Karlee and Keisha shot together multiple times together. Again they never shot a G/G all together even though they've at a B/G orgy altogether so I'm sure there was some brief G/G action.
2) Abella and Prinzzess - I've wanted this to happen so badly for GFF but it never happened due to Abella only shooting twice with the studio. Both girls love women and they have a style that would make for a fire scene.
3) Elexis Monroe and Julia Ann - Two GFF legends that never got together in a scene and that's tragic. I would've easily loved to see them together and technically they still could shoot together for either their onlyfans or a place like SHV so I still have hope.
4) Julia Ann and Magdalene - Magdalene is another GFF legend and this is another pairing that never happened which is again tragic. Along with Elexis they've shot tons of scenes for GFF and I wish would've paired them together. It just would've made too much sense.
5) Elexis and Cherie DeVille - They both actually want to shoot together and they had a window when Cherie wasnt under contract with Brazzers. Bree didn't get them for the WeLikeGirls series and Jacky didn't get them for Bellesa House. So unless they could get together for onlyfans I don't see this pairing ever happening.
6) Elexis and Angela White - Another girl Elexis said she want to get with. She even said she would love a threesome with Angela and Cherie. I'm definitely down with that. The passion would be off the charts with Elexis and Angela and if you add Cherie like omg. I guy can definitely dream about this pairing lol.
^^Here are girl/girl pairings I would like to see.
Elexis Monroe & Cherie DeVille Sinn Sage & Angela White Abigail Mac & Natasha Nice Angel Dark & Madi Meadows Kit Mercer & Madi Meadows Elexis Monroe & Angela White Sarah Vandella & Evelyn Payne Elexis Monroe & Julia Ann Alona Bloom, Alex De La Flor & Leda Lotharia Magdalene & Abigail Mac
I'm pretty sure most that content on Lezcrush is pretty old as in its probably on MV or and OF message that gets DMed to you. Vanessa Veracruz doesnt even shoot studio anymore, let alone G/G content
That would be a really hot threesome with these three actresses.Pretty weird these two never crossed their paths.Completely agree with these two pairings. I would pay all the money in the world to see them happening.I can stop laughing after reading it. Bute yeah, I would see the scene.
"Just wanted to create a little topic right here about G/G dream pairings:"
My list is going to be quite different than most of the other lists, as it will have very few Western girls in it, my preferences falling much more for Eastern girls, European talents. I think I find them on average more to my tastes, aesthetically, but more importantly they aren't as loud and over the top as Western girls, on average. More often than not if I want to see, and hear, a realistic sounding lesbian performance I'll find it from Eastern/European talent.
Those girls right now are pretty much the top of my lists and I'd love to see them in all manner of pairings together. Freya Mayer and Eva Elfie would be a delight. Alissa Foxy and Sonya Blaze would be a feast for the sense. A big four woman orgy would be nirvana.
I'd also like to see:
- Stacy Cruz with Stella Cardo - Kinsley White with Bonny S - Vanessa Angel with Elizabeth T - one that won't happen, but I'd have enjoyed seeing Mila Azul with Leona Mia
I'd enjoy seeing Aislin get a chance to work with any of the girls listed above as well.
For Western girls I'd pretty much just enjoy seeing Alex Coal get lots more work, with her taking the lead in the scenes. It's a rarity to see anything from the other girls that seem to be anything approaching realistic portrayals of arousal or dedication to getting the other girls off. Lacy Lennon does a great job in getting the other girls off, her fingering is top notch as you can both hear and see it's effects, the wet sounds her partners pussies make as she's fingering the hell out of them - issue for me with Lacy is her expressions of arousal are way too over the top.
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"The constant fake moaning, endless canned phrases, and mind-numbing very random chatting during sex."
I have fought this trend for going on two years now, in the comment sections, in private conversations by email and direct messaging on Twitter - to no avail. I have over a thousand emails discussing these issues, pointing them out in excrutiating detail, second by second, screencaps, et al. I left hundreds of reviews on AdultTime, GFF and others - to no avail. It's very disheartening.
Why is it that the women giving oral hum, keen, and otherwise make noise while giving oral, to the point that they often are as loud or louder than the one receiving oral?
Why is there such prevalence of the oral style of sticking her tongue out, making an "AHH" sound like you're at the doctor's office and they're asking you to stick out your tongue and say 'Ahh", and winding up looking like a younger person being made to try something at the table that they don't want to taste?
Why does nearly every scene sound the same, with kissing starting and the girls starting their humming, their keening, their cooing, in near synchronicity?
It's all performative pleasure routines, learned by watching porn, being in the industry and being directed to do so. They want folks to buy into their performances, for folks to believe that they having orgasms and that what they are watching is real, but they don't want to have to get that intimate, to have to feel the feelings that sometimes accompany the act of really making love (sex, fucking, whatever you want to call it). Not to bring a man's name into the thread, but there was some interesting comments by Michael Stefano about falling in love on set only to have the heart broken each day when you leave, the emotions often being so real and raw (I'm paraphrasing all this and it was during his retirement before he came back a while ago). It's a defense mechanism - keeping the feelings and emotions at bay that comes with letting their walls down and feeling those things that comes with it and with the intense pleasure. So they do their best to put on the show and not actually get each other off - look at the lack of kissing; look at the lack of erogenous zone manipulation (next to no necking for example); at every turn most lesbian scenes have the gals dipping and dodging out on trying to get themselves or their partners off.
One of the consequences of this is that as time as went on, folks begin to take this exaggerated pantomimed performance of pleasure as the real thing, to the point that when they see real arousal and it's sights and sounds they will deride the scene as "cold", or "not passionate enough" . having mistaken the over the top frenetic and hasty pornstar performative pleasure routines as being authentic. I also think it's to the point that there are directors who simply don't know, or can't tell, or are fooled - not every one of them are in the wise I don't believe.
99% of the scenes you watch, watch their perineum, the spot between their asshole and their pussy, as they're screaming about cumming and the like - if it's not spasming, if her asshole isn't clenching then slightly dilating (to the diameter of maybe an inky pen, very small), if these things aren't happening she's acting, faking. Those things take place as her pelvic floor contract, spasm, as her orgasm washes over her - if you were a man and inside her, or any gender and had fingers in her, you'd feel these contractions, not as deliberate clenching or bearing down like a kegel, but spasm, an uncontrollable bodily response to their orgasm. If you watch you will see it but very very rarely. I can provide an example, a solo scene, of one of the best and most authentic orgasms I've ever seen that illustrates these contractions perfectly. After seeing this, ask yourself - "Have I seen this before, do the women screaming and yelling and caterwauling have these contractions going on too?" It's glaring it's lack in 99% of lesbian scenes.
Watch her body and how it tenses up, watch her face as her orgasm washes over her, her eyes as they get slightly glassy as she feels it, and all the while you'll see those signs in her pussy, her perineum and her asshole as the entire pelvic floor is clenching and spasming uncontrollably. Super hot.
It's one of the biggest problems in lesbian porn - the lack of authentic pleasure and orgasms.
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Regarding GFF and Serene, Lacy and the contract girl situation. It's a bummer for Serene, though I will say I think it's the correct call on Alyx. I also think they would do best to part ways with Aubree Valentine as well. Neither Alyx or Aubree has any credentials to be signed as a contract star for a lesbian only company. At least Serene made sense in so much as she doesn't take dick on camera but for her husband once in a while. I lobbied hard in the GFF forums and in emails to sign Alex Coal and to ditch Alyx and Aubree, offering detailed reviews and examples of their poor performances and rampant fakery. Lacey is a fine signing, and she'll drag lots of authentic arousal out of her partners as she takes control, I just hope she dials back her own pleasure performances. I'd really enjoy her working with Alex Coal, of course. All that said, the fact that GFF is booking Gia Derza says to me they've abandoned all claims to their statement on the back of their DVDs about being the most realistic/authentic lesbian sex in adult film. Hoping for the best but with some recent castings I'm expecting the worst.
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For me and my money, I still find the best lesbian content at WowGirls and UltraFilms, barring the occasional casting of LP girls, which I think is winding down, at least leading into their next shoot. Every scene isn't HoF but they're consistently high quality. Taking their time, lots of great views (full body, closeups and letting us see their eyes). I just wish they went all lesbian and solo, they still do the occasional B/G and it's a bummer.
That brings me a question: Has Mila Azul ever made a girl/girl scene? From my research it looks like she never did one, but I'm really curious if there is something.
You enjoy a certain type of porn {quiet}. You're wise enough to realize it's not the most popular type of porn. The biggest stars in porn are plenty vocal, be it b/g or g/g. You aren't the 1st person around here to share a preference for a quieter, more realistic brand of porn. Bottom line is big performances sell, true today as it has been for decades.
Oh, your 4 favorites: Freya Mayer-cute, good g/g performer Eva Elfie- cute, nice tits, ok at best be it b/g or g/g Sonya Blaze- incredible body, plenty of room for improvement as a performer, she just doesn't ever seem comfortable Alissa Foxy-cute,a novice at this point, hold out hope for better work moving forward
WowGirls/UltraFilms: Got a good deal, so doing a month of both sites. Agree with you about the camera work, it is excellent.
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Posted - Feb 16 2022 : 5:44PM
FYI - Lenina has done a gg scene with Harriet Sugarcookie on Harriet's site and she has one or two on her own ManyVids site (as well as many bgg scenes). I've only seen stills or brief previews, so I can't attest to the quality of the action.
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Posted - Feb 16 2022 : 8:03PM
On actual GG vs the screaming fake moaning nonsense: I don't know why people pay actual money for the latter, just to watch people basically not have sex.
Pairings: Alex Coal/Marilyn Johnson Karla Kush/Michelle Anderson Gabbie Carter/Lacy Lennon Aria Lee/Spencer Bradley Harley King/April Olsen Geisha Kyd/Leria Glow Khloe Kapri/Freya Parker
The biggest problem is money over everything. You can see that in the old biz. They are trying to cheat in almost everything.
Back in the days when I was member some site, more then half of the content was interesting for me. Now mayby one scene in a month. Completely waste of money. The had something that worked and they ruined it. They have many many AAA pornstars in the biz, and because their behavior (companies) they are now retired or on OF. I remember that days when you had Kenna James, Mia Malkova, Abigail Mac in one scene. Now it is just dream. GW had amazing features, also ZZ...good scenarios, good pornstars, good directors...
Now can be pornstar almost everyone (no offense).
For example I dont understand why GW doesnt make a scene with amazing girls like Scarlit Scandal, Kenna James, Valentina Nappi, Abigail Mac, Lena Paul, Charlotte Stokely, Jayden Cole, Alina Lopez, Kyler Quinn, Brandi Love, Reagan Foxx, Cory Chase. Alexis Fawx, Chanel Preston etc...while they are still here. Mayby if they will try, they can do a comeback with girls like Shyla Jennings, Dani Daniels, Mia Malkova, Karlie Montana, Goergia Jones, Uma Jolie and many more. Just really good scenario, director and of course enought money. And in this biz in money enought. Billions of dollars.
Shyla Jennings has been promoting the site on her Twitter, so I agree that there will likely be newly produced content. Based on an early skim of their first batch of scenes, a lot of it is older content (I recognize a few that were released in '16-'17). My guess is they needed at least a decent number of initial scenes available at launch to actually entice people into joining. Probably would have been difficult to convince people to sign up if they only had a small number of scenes to offer.
Does anyone know scenes where the girl is visibly dripping wet or creaming?
These three scenes come to mind:
April O'Neil and Felony Foreplay "Lesbian Seductions 26" where April was literally dripping while she was pleasuring Felony. You can see from behind a long clear string of fluid hanging from April pussy.
Mindi Mink and Summer Day "Lesbian Seductions 60" where Mindi was pleasing Summer and you can see her pussy starts to cream from being fingered.
Adriana Chechik and Milana Ricci from Onlyfans where they both dressed up in a Mortal Kombat cosplay and it was a squirting battle. At one point though while Adriana was squirting you can still see a long string of fluid hanging from her pussy.
In the Mommy's girl scene from Girlsway titled Strap-Mom, starring Sinn Sage and Alex de la Flor. When Sinn is fucking Alex with the strap on in missionaire, you can clearly see Alex's pussy pouring white fluid. It was really hot.
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