^ You just exposed what's hidden in this thread, all those he mentions here are mixed , he doesn't even consider them black that's why he's campaigning against them , very much alike the IR watchdogs are used to campaign against those whites who don't do Ir )mind you they don't give a fuck if any Asian does or doesn't do IR, just those they deem somewhat whites). That girl isn't "ebony" of course Also they only "evidence" they can bring here is what they seem to understand without the slightest figure. I mean aside for Anya Ivy who is basically the only black girl who officially doesn't do black men on screen , for all the other they just assume they're refusing black men, but we don't know the following Has anybody ever offered to work with a black man to any of them Did they refuse a scene with a black actor? Did they refuse such scene because he was black? Did they refuse scenes because already scheduled elsewhere? Did they have a full schedule? Did they refused to travel from Miami to LA to work with a black man? Did any of them refused to travel to Miami from LA to work with a black man? What company tried to hire them? A major? a fishy unheard of one? Did they refuse any scene because the offer was too low? How many black on black scenes are filmed weekly or even monthly? These guys reasoning is basically the same of those who think Earth at the center of the Universe from what they can see it's obvious that everything turn around it
This is interesting because I noticed the same thing with mainstream movies. Movies or even tv shows (outside of comedies) that show black couples are almost non existent. There was an interesting article involving Will Smith on Today online addressing this put out a long time ago. http://www.today.com/id/7019342/ns/today-entertainment/t/was-race-issue-hitch-casting/#.VWt_zEbQPQw
@LCF-All one has to do and I said this before is look at the performer profile page,W/M Only might give you a clue or maybe you choose to believe what you want to believe.
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Posted - Jun 1 2015 : 12:01AM
Films and television shows that are intended primarily for black audiences usually feature black couples. Films and television shows that want to attract a wider audience will be more diverse, so that the film/show doesn't come off in advertising as a "black" movie or series. This is the same reason why in the film adaptation of Spawn, Al Simmons, a black character in the source material, was cast as a white man. The film already had a black protagonist and another black main character, which was more than enough for the studio. They didn't want the movie to appear to be a "black" film.
It's so sad to. It's really sad to see so many sexy black girls taking the Lavish Styles approach.
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Posted - Jun 1 2015 : 2:40PM
Anyone who really believes a Black porn star will not sleep with a Black man for money is showing their inexperience with women and life. The idea of a 1st year Black female actress in a racist industry deciding who she works with should seem crazy.
Judy Star did anal and D.P.'s,so that alone makes her popular where a lot of other stars didn't and got by just on their looks alone who was boring to watch like Victoria Paris,Tera Patrick,Jenna Jermerson,Annette Havin,to name a few.
Doesn't make her great because she did more then them. I have never ever seen Judy Star on anyone's top 50 or 100 list. If I made a list myself she wouldn't be in the top 300.
How the fuck did we get into a discussion about where Judy Star sits in the list of top performers of all time, when this is a thread about black females who don't work with black males? Please, leave Judy Star out of it. Back on topic, thx.
I am all for any genre that gets Black Women adult actors work. I could care less about the ethnicity of the dick they're fucking and sucking as long as their pussies cream for it. I can't understand why any true porn lover would care anything about the male performer except for the quality of his performance. And, let's be honest, the BW/WM genre is a win for Black Women because it gives them a greater opportunity to appeal to the far wider white porn viewing audience who actually pay for porn. Most black-themed porn boards are all about pirating porn; not purchasing it. In fact it is a matter of pride among most Black Men to pay absolutely as little as possible for any form of sexual entertainment. Anyone involved in the adult entertainment business knows this fact: "You aint gonna make no real money unless you can get the White money." Black Women adult actors have enough sense to know this too. Look, contrary to what the women may say during the staged pre-sex interviews in the movies, these ladies are usually experienced adult performers before ever doing porn. They've been in the game long before we've seen them on camera; and have already learned that a Black clientele is usually a broke clientele; or at least one that is not trying to spend "no real money". Why should we expect them not to apply the same hard-learned truths to the porn game when we already know that the Black-on-Black genre has long been saturated with low-budget operations? Then, when you include all the off-screen side-fucking Black Women have to do on Black-on-Black themed sets, coupled with the low pay and limited exposure they're going to receive, is there any wonder why Black Women, who can, choose to skip the Porn Industry's version of the Music Industry's old "Chitlin' Circuit"? And, just like with the Music Industry, everyone usually greatly benefits when the performer can leave the "Chitlin' Circuit". Having access to better resources and higher quality production brings about a far better end product. Face it. The end of the "Chitlin' Circuit" made Black Music better and, thereby, made all music better. We all should be celebrating and encouraging Black Women adult actors to fuck all the White Men on camera they can so they too can have an opportunity to really make it big in their chosen profession. More Black Women shooting more scenes with White Men means better pay, better working conditions, better production value, exposure to wider audiences, and a real chance to blow up big. For us consumers, this also means more better looking Black Women will get into porn to take advantage of the increased opportunities for success. So let's stop talking at the ladies as if they're brainless sex-bots and realize they're making smart business decisions. Let's stop assuming they "don't fuck Black Men" just because we don't see it on camera--pssss...porn isn't reality. And, finally, let's stop all the hyperbole about racism and the end of Black Porn. No, its not the end of Black Porn; just the end of BAD black porn. We should all celebrate that! Edited by - fred g. sanford on 6/1/2015 11:37:29 PM Edited by - fred g. sanford on 6/1/2015 11:38:53 PM Edited by - fred g. sanford on 6/1/2015 11:39:25 PM Edited by - fred g. sanford on 6/1/2015 11:40:09 PM
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Posted - Jun 1 2015 : 11:53PM
I really disagree with you on that one, it bad enough that black men get turn down by white woman, and ever worst there own races. BTW there isn't any good black porn been made these days, the only black porn there out there is Lexington Steele and WCP. Not many IR and black IR fans don't watched WM/BF movies because there isn't a demand for it. There some black men that do buy porn with there money like myself so I don't know WTF you saying because you support this shit. Sorry but there still racism in porn like it or not Edited by - Interracial4Life on 6/1/2015 11:59:30 PM
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Posted - Jun 2 2015 : 12:10AM
^^You write as if it is a manifest fact that black women who choose not to shoot with black men have benefited immensely from their decision, but have they really? How do you know?
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Posted - Jun 2 2015 : 11:23AM
One thing seemed to happen in the industry that changed what is being produced. As the industry became monopolized everybody followed the leader instead of sticking with what worked for them. The Black Ir doesn't sell excuse became truth because the leading company is racist and kept saying it. Now as the industry fades into obscurity companies that want to survive have to decide whether they are going to stay the course with all white or buck the trend and produce racially diverse porn. Really it is a tremendous opportunity for the right company.
As far as I know there's only one performer with such specification on her profile page , it's Anya Ivy , already mentioned here if you have more I'd like a link.
You didn't get the point , she was an absolute lesbian yet you can't tell this from the scenes she made hence the great performer stance ,there's no disgust any of her scenes, but I'm am pretty sure you hardly saw her if ever. Started with Rocco an anal scene , then you may see her in Space Invaderz (DPP and DAP) she did lots of gang bangs DAP , swallowing scenes , is in Mandingo I (anal of course). just some examples
When someone enters a sex shop and watch all that is in there he will follow his dick and will buy whatever makes it harden , there's no possible industry to tell his dick to stay down , if (as you imply from your first post and in all of yours since in a subtle way ) they really are aroused by black on black porn but prefer to buy something he doesn't like at all because a monopoly made him so, you're very deluded
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Posted - Jun 2 2015 : 6:41PM
black women turning away from black porn? About time they embraced their real fantasy, some nice big white cock, which we all know they want deep down. I just watched a scene of Criss Strokes with Tamra Millan on we fuck black girls, hot!! ^_^
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Posted - Jun 3 2015 : 11:19AM
LOL what a load of garbage!. That guy accused me of bashing women who don't do IR and then he was saying i "bought the ebony chick to his attention". Therefore i said.."oh she's ebony now?" as that doesn't comply with his previous accusations about me being an "IR watchdog" does it? I would have thought that was obvious? (smh). Furthermore if you actually took the time to READ my posts properly you would have seen that i named Jezebell on the list too..while Nadia Jay's name was also mentioned previously...so it's nothing to do with a chick being "mixed". The problem for you is your excuses get completely debunked when you try to defend these black chicks who don't work with black males because all one has to do is name Anna Foxx, Skin Diamond, Teanna Trump etc who ALL shoot black scene regularly...so claiming there's "no black shoots" is simply a LAME and tedious with no substance whatsoever.
One of the best white male / black female scenes ever is the BGG with Jada Fire Vanessa Blue and Marco Banderas from Ass Worship 6. Rarely see scenes like that anymore though. I don't think it's about black females leaving so much as the market changing. People who like white female stars most of all are white consumers. People who like Hispanic female stars most of all are Hispanic consumers. And people who like black female stars most of all are black consumers. I just think the black consumer base has diminished some with the rise of Tube sites and cam sites. Same with Hispanic. They've both seemed to decline. Used to be a lot of black on Hispanic IR, but those are super rare now. Have to be reasonable in expectations. Blacks / Hispanics have the least disposable income in America, so the little share of market demand they had before is very small now. Used to be a lot of superstar female porn stars, like Jada Fire and Pinky. Pinky still has her own site. She's one of the few who is still very popular. But they may just be making more doing cam shows now or feature dancing.
porn stars think business like everyone else, they follow the money, the money is in older white males much like escorts. America has a racist perception of black males, black women depending on looks will be able to bypass alot of these stereotypes. I wouldn't be surprised if in real like most black female porn stars only mess with black men, the camera is a complete another issue. You'll lose money associating yourself with the bottom aka the young thug black guy as America perceices him to be. I think it's just business, porn is a short career unless you can flip it ala Jenna Jameson or someone like that. White males buy, you appeal to what white men want, borderline self hating black women who give off the interpretation that they hate their own men. Business The new black female porn stars are very pretty, sad they usually don't mess with black men, we got the fat, outta shape ugly chicks... that's a shame.
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fredgee Deactivated User
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Posted - Jun 3 2015 : 11:39PM
Porn has never been like a regular business. For one thing it has always been on the fringes of the 1st amendment and always had a shady element involved. Therefore the issue about it being ran like a business is not completely true. Smart business practices probably did allow one company to monopolize the industry but it is doing more harm than good because it is short sighted, narrow minded and prejudiced. If you look at the coming soon section nothing new is coming, the movies are basically compilations, that means the tube sites which are already running old clips will soon run dry. That will cause a domino effect which will end entire sectors. The blogs, websites, message boards will eventually run dry. Eliminating racially diverse porn, the competition, is the opposite of good business. At this rate in a few years there will only be one or two porn companies.
Nonsense! Porn is as much regular business as the Music industry which has also been both on the fringes on the 1st amendment and needlessly dragged into the prevailing muck of racial politics of the day. Like Music, Porn will always have a large global demand. And like any industry, Porn has had to adapt to an ever-changing world. Like the Music industry has gone from records, to 8-track, to cassette, to CD, and now MP3; Porn has had to change too. Porn has gone from 8mm to VHS to DVD and Internet download in a very short time. It also has gone from stag parties, to theaters, to peep shows, to hotel rentals, to cable, and now almost exclusively Internet viewing--with no decrease in the worlds demand for it. After they killed Osama Bin Laden they found three things in his room...a rifle, a Koran, and porn. Don't tell me Porn is dying. Bullshit! There's still oodles of money to be made. Not to mention the new emerging markets for Porn as more of Africa and Asia--where most of the human race lives--get broadband service and disposable incomes. What is missing in Porn is a grand industrialist vision. More than anything, Porn needs a Henry Ford (or a Steve Jobs for you millennials). It needs someone to revolutionize the industry and bring it into the world of 21st century globalism, like Ford brought auto-making into the Industrial Age. If it were me, I would be looking to take Porn off-shore to reduce costs just like any other business. Why pay an America actor, regardless of race, $1000 to shoot a scene when that could be the entire operating budget to shoot two high quality gonzo movies in Africa or Asia by a local film crew that I pay a wholesale price? Porn viewers don't really care if the actors speak good English as long as they can really fuck on camera. Why are we haggling and overpaying an ever decreasing talent pool in an ever content over-saturated U.S. marketplace? Going offshore could give Porn the desperately needed new global business model that drives down production costs and increases profit margins; while maintaining good quality. Going off-shore would also eliminate the constant 1st Amendment entrapment crusaders that has plagued the Porn industry for decades. There are little chicken-shit principalities and oil rigs in international waters all of the globe where a porn studio can be setup without fear of the DOJ. Nothing being mailed so no customers need fear the infamous "postal inspectors". Porn companies would also save a bundle in attorney fees now that fear of police raids have been significantly reduced. And as for talent, that would be no problem at all. If a people will risk death just to sail in a overcrowded tub just to live in a rancid European or Asian migrant camp, imagine how many more would gladly do porn for much better wages and less risk. And anyone who has been to India, Bangladesh, the Horn of Africa, Central America, Caribbeans, or Eastern Europe can vouch for the outrageously beautiful women from those places who clean toilets and fuck tourists for peanuts, everyday. There's also an abundance of filming talent in the developing world too. Real quick, guest what two countries produce more movies than Hollywood each year without breaking a sweat? The answer is: India (Bollywood)and Nigeria (Nollywood)! This means there are bunches of under-payed experienced film makers looking to get the fuck away from Boko Haram and Al Qaeda and make some real cash. So, you take Porn off-shore and drastically bring down the costs/risks of production while increasing your profit margins. You also increase demand by exploiting new emerging markets in developing countries. Now who gives a shit about piracy if your margins now rival Walmart? And as for those who insist upon dragging Porn into the endless muck of racial politics, you'll now have a plethora of exotic hot black, brown, white, and multiracial new porn starlets for your viewing pleasure. Porn doesn't need anything except visionaries who will think outside of the old San Fernando Valley/Las Vegas box this international business outgrew a decade ago. Just as New York was once the Porn industry capital until some past visionaries decided to take it West. It is now time for the Porn to pack up once again and move--offshore. IMHO. Edited by - fred g. sanford on 6/4/2015 9:39:49 PM
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Posted - Jun 4 2015 : 10:22PM
^ Going offshore, porn is global, new pioneer, sounds good until we get back on the topic of race. Africans are not going to pay for all white porn, same with Asians, Latinos or Europeans and Americans who are not racist. Basically what I been saying. The industry chose a dead end when it went that route and if I had to bet it will dry up before it changes.
st What kind of garbage is this? You say most most men don't pay for porn, as if the entire fucking world isn't pirating, or watching the goddamn hell out of these tube sites. Welcome to reality, and no, black women, don't stop fucking black men in porn, taking less work in the process, just because certain white boys can only get off when there's a white cock involved. (sans that black guy fucking lily white girl fetish that is so prevalent)
The idea that black girls won't gain popularity by shooting black porn is so absurd. Skin Diamond and Teanna Trump do black porn and are some of the most popular black starlets. There also aren't many men in porn with the credentials of Lex Steele or Prince Yahshua, black or not. A girl will only gain from shooting a scene for one of Lex's black panther movies or with Prince on Bangbros black porn/black IR site
It could be like Kerry Washington who always gets *casted* to be the significant other or a white man in films but is married to a black man irl. Maybe the companies are the ones who want to exclude black men from shooting with black women, but how do you explain girls like Anya Ivy?
Do a google search on Jezabel Vessir and her pictures are displayed. One of the few if porn stars with that distinction. Jade Aspen hasn't done a scene in months and she has a huge twitter following almost superstar status. Black actresses might be turning away from porn but they are still in demand.
If some of you guys are serious about supporting black women in the business, this could be a viable option for doing so. http://cumfundme.com/ChanellHeart
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Posted - Jun 15 2015 : 11:52AM
Crowd source was going to happen sooner or later..Chanell seems like a intelligent enterprising young lady hopefully she can make this work there is definitely a market for that niche and competition in porn is badly needed.
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Posted - Jun 25 2015 : 12:21PM
So this just sums up what i mean about black/mixed females turning their noses up at black pornWhite and Latin men she's worked with from the start!!...but blacks? Left on the shelf and no doubt once the vanilla crowd get bored of her and the shoots start drying up that's when black porn will be considered!!..SMH these people are straight bogus man.
^I don't think that tweet was offensive at all really, just seems like a lateral move to me. She's probably not gaining any fans or losing any, it just seems like she harmless tweet.
^ Agreed.^ You've summed up your beliefs on this several times. And that's fine. But now this thread has become little more than a watch-list for the next black girl you suspect (or more accurately accuse) of looking down on black men/porn. You brought up Nadia Jay and Adrian Maya, repeatedly. And both have scenes with black men in the can. But the overzealous and righteous indignation\prosecution continues without some much as a "I was wrong about her".
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Posted - Jun 25 2015 : 4:05PM
Well firstly i didn't go too hard on Nadia Jay!!..secondly she did still subscribe to the same trend that plenty of these black women are doing which is to put black porn at the bottom of the pile. Lastly can you point out the Adrian Maya scene please? Because i must have missed that one. Although i still maintain that her crass comments relating to black men on that BTS i posted earlier in this thread was way out of line.
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Posted - Jun 25 2015 : 4:08PM
It's basically saying "yeah don't worry guys..you'll get a crumb when i'm done eating the whole pie"...compare her attitude to the likes of Teanna Trump, Anna Foxx, Chanel Hart etc and perhaps you'll understand why that comment is crass.
The Adrian Maya scene he is talking hasn't been released yet,she twetted that she had done a scene with a black guy she didn't say for what company or who it was with plus here lately she has been twetting how she wants to work for blacked
She said so here...unless you believe she's lying for some reason. In your last post you ironically brought up Chanell Heart. Yesterday on twitter, she was slammed with similar accusations because of a BTS Dogfart scene. We know Chanell doesn't have any issues working with black men, but that didn't stop her insecure accuser from basically calling her a sell-out. It's that type of hyperbole, and oversensitivity that's become way too common in this thread. Edited by - negrine on 6/25/2015 4:46:52 PM
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