I'm not an actor, but I play one on TV 911 Posts 4/06
Posted - Jun 27 2015 : 11:41AM
Yes, I'm very well aware of what the word means, otherwise I wouldn't have used it (which is more than I can say for some of the random shit you'v e said in this thread) Are you familiar with the term quid pro quo?Neither is a hammer, but its still effective at what it does, no?It wasn't a vanilla scene, it was an IR scene. But your reaction to it demonstrates my point. You flipped the fuck out because a white guy showed up in a scene where you wanted only to watch a black guy.My argument has nothing to do with black women dodging black men, so you clearly don't understand what my argument is, let alone what the logic is behind it. I wasn't responding to your initial post, I was responding to a comment you made later in this thread (I even quoted it if I'm not mistaken) But let me ask you this... How would your porn viewing be effected if all of the non-black male talent retired today?
LMAO this dude is a hilarious idiot. You just refuse to throw in the towel. How are you trying to turn this on me to prove you wrong when I've already proven that every other thing you said was complete BS. I'm not the one claiming they're shooting these scene so there is nothing I need to look up. You still dodging my question and you still have not been able to come up with any evidence of those women getting work on the black porn scene. You sir have reached the supreme level of trolling , I commend you on that. You honestly have me laughing like hell over here with your logic. Edited by - iramaj1 on 6/27/2015 12:18:12 PM
And to think all this started from a harmless tweet by a girl I never expected to work with black guys anyway.
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fredgee Deactivated User
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Posted - Jun 27 2015 : 12:48PM
This is a interesting thread...there are some porn loyalist here but it is pretty obvious they know very little about Black people and especially Black women. Anyone who believes a Black porn actress will not have sex with a Black man for money is beyond reach..it is blissful ignorance.
Bust A Nut Inside Your Eye To Show You Where I Come From. 234 Posts 9/10
Posted - Jun 27 2015 : 4:12PM
im a latina guy and thought i would give my 2 cents . watching latina on latina porn is just normal and boring to my eyes because it feels like me and my girl fucking. interracial on the other hand, (white/black, latina/black, asian/white/black) etc gets me going. My point is porn is my go too place for difference...something that defies my norms, hence interracial.
MOD: This thread has gotten out of hand. Insults flying left and right. Reel it in folks. Smash, Murdock, Iramaj, Facialities, and others, I'm watching all of you.
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the traveler Deactivated User
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Posted - Jun 27 2015 : 5:51PM
The better questionis who cares. Black women for decades have been butthurt by seeing black men with white women and black fathers have for years abandoned their kids especially black daughters. This advent of black bed wenches is a result of butthurt black women that have for so long felt unappreciated by black men. As a black man I really don't care as I don't like black women and don't care what they do. Black women are the biggest sellouts of anyone. The white media has been pushing this agenda of black women with white men for the past few years on TV shows and in the media. Black women aren't very bright and will do anything to help their slave masters.
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Posted - Jun 28 2015 : 3:30AM
Er NO!!.. I "flipped out" because Moc tried to mislead the fans!!..Charlie Mac was made to look like a damn cuckold and i aired my views. If you don't like that then that's your business but there's a reason "JordanB" came on this thread and was apologetic.Care to !"quote" what i said again? because it sounds like an feeble excuse. As for your question...I'll kindly say that's none of your business.
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Posted - Jun 28 2015 : 3:32AM
Yep just like i thought..resort to insults when your argument falls to pieces!! :D . So again i'll ask because apparently you didn't comprehend me the first time... have you heard of the new series called "black couples"?
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Posted - Jun 28 2015 : 3:33AM
So you haven't seen Anya Ivy's model card that states she will NOT work with black men? Ok.
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Posted - Jun 28 2015 : 3:35AM
Ok man i just seen this...and i totally agree. Pardon me in the role i have played.
I'm not an actor, but I play one on TV 911 Posts 4/06
Posted - Jun 28 2015 : 3:51AM
MOD: Cease the insults or you will cease to post here. Killbillvol69 gave a warning, which you ignored. I am not going to bother to edit the insults from the post, the whole post goes. Edited by - flash on 6/28/2015 8:41:51 AM
MOD: Cease the insults or you will cease to post here. Killbillvol69 gave a warning, which you ignored. I am not going to bother to edit the insults from the post, the whole post goes. Edited by - flash on 6/28/2015 8:42:06 AM
I'm not an actor, but I play one on TV 911 Posts 4/06
Posted - Jun 28 2015 : 10:51AM
With all due respect to flash and killbill I can't possibly fathom what was in that last post that could have been construed as an insult. I suggested that Smash not cast aspersions on others if he isn't willing to put his morals through similar scrutiny. If you didn't want me to respond to him at all then you could have just said that and I would have complied. Thank you.
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fredgee Deactivated User
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Posted - Jun 28 2015 : 1:32PM
She has done a Black guy it wasn't her 1st and it won't be her last..even if she hadn't already did it she would if the price is right.
^ If the price is right?" doubt any producer would pay anyone extra to perform a regular b/g with someone of the same background. Edited by - randomguy007 on 6/28/2015 2:33:56 PM
What would be just a reg. b/g scene for us could be pushed as "1st time with [ ]." Also, I that see the lastest installment of the Black Panthers series is being released soon. Any more ebony content coming up besides that one?
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Posted - Jun 29 2015 : 5:24AM
She's yet to work with an African American male though. Kevin Stallion is from England and may very well be mixed race which some women who have issues working with black men give a pass to sometimes. See Alex Jones for example.
I removed two posts at the same time, one had an outright insult in it, the other had a veiled attack in it, I can't remember which was which. Whether intentional or not, both were ones that would continue the fighting in this thread. If people want the thread to stay open, the fighting is to end. No attacks via direct insults or veiled attacks.
This is common business sense. White people, the largest demographic, aren't as interested in black porn as they are white porn or even ir(either variety). So no, I highly doubt black females are turning down black porn just because. Turning down work is a privilege probably enjoyed more often by white females in porn, as they are the highest demand.
^That's true but it doesn't really answer the question if why are less black girls work with black guys, see I would think that black guys would want to work with all guys because there aren't that many if them so they would want to work as much as possible.
Who has she worked with? Please dont say that Cuban guy Bangbros used to pass off as an African-American. And when is the last time a black females got a specialty rate for first time with another black guy? Maybe if it was her first B/G scene but never the other scenario.
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Posted - Jul 9 2015 : 5:54PM
Well there is Lisa Tiffian who is doing much on her website, she have done anal with both black and white men, and ever is doing an gangbang with black men something we don't see that much. She could be the next Jade Fire but unlike Jade she did DPs, and gangbang with white dude. Same is with Marie Luv and Skin Diamond but in the past those girls have been getting a lot of hate from black porn fans because they did a lot of white men. Marie Luv during a interview said she and Jade get hated by black men on that but it's not there fault because they are booked for those scene so you can't blame them.
^ Based on what? I can believe black women have statistically fewer good earning opportunities but that's not the same thing.
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Posted - Jul 12 2015 : 2:54PM
A few reason why black girls aren't in demand in the industry because a few things. 1. They are less paid when the white girls who get paid more, a white girl can demand a bigger paid for her 1st IR with a black man or an her 1st anal. A black girls can't make those demand. 2. Like a white girls can refused to do black man but black girls can't do it with a white guy because if she do then she will never get work. Now black girls can also refused to do there own race as well. 3. Most porn agents don't care for black girls because they won't promo then, you don't see a black contract girl these days like Heather Hunter was. 4. White girls can do like 3 or 4 scenes a week, for a black girls it 2-3 scene a month The point is that black girls get less opportunities in porn, is paying them less racist because the color of there skin, I say yes. Some say black girls don't sell or ever WM/BF IR doesn't unlike the BM/WF IR. Most of them will end of leaving because of it. That how it is my friend, but there is an way for black woman can still make it in the industry. They can do it themselves like a website, Pinky is the only one who have done it.
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Posted - Jul 14 2015 : 1:33PM
Another trend i've noticed amongst some black female performers is they'll shoot black porn early in their careers and then completely discard it when they start getting more vanilla scenes. It just came to my attention that Diamond Jackson has only done TWO black scenes since 2011!!...and hasn't shot with a black man since 2013. Jada Fire was the grandmother of this philosophy, along with Marie Luv. And now you've got a plethora of black females who aren't even doing it in that old fashioned way anymore...they are just skipping the the early black phase altogether and just straight ducking black men now. AjaaXXX, Peyton Rain and Ava Sanchez are just another in a long line of newbies who may be heading that way aswell.
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Posted - Jul 14 2015 : 3:30PM
Both Jade Fire and Marie Luv has been criticized and hate by black porn fans for not doing more black men on film but they are booked for those scenes because the lack of black porn. They never did DP, anal, or gangband from black men which they will never get support from those fans. Skin Diamond have never done a black gangbang before with black men and she is getting the same hate from black porn fan like Marie Luv and Jade Fire have. Now another thing is black IR fans can support IR porn like Blacked.com and other IR flick but not support black porn. Hate to say it but Interracial porn have out sell black porn these days.
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Posted - Jul 20 2015 : 3:33AM
So thanks to Captain Jack for finally asking Anya Ivy why she doesn't work with black men...So she's been open about it and it just sums up why i created this thread in the first place. Also i don't like to hear shit about "personal life"..who gives a fuck? We're not watching these broads "personal lives" we're watching them do their "jobs" and apparently she, and many other black female performers are more than happy to ostracise black men. And now what's her career like? It's heading down the pan from what i can see as she's already worked with 99% of the white dudes in the game already so what else can she do?
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Posted - Aug 7 2015 : 1:19AM
Hey guys!!.. Just seen THIS new "black" porn flick that due to come out in a couple weeks and i was shocked to see two particular names in the cast. Cassidy Banks and Anya Ivy!!..i was like "what? that can't be true considering they've openly dodged working with black males"..and low and behold i looked at some of the pictures from the scenes and BOTH appear to be in a scene with a white dude!! LOL. Man i just have to laugh about it because the extremes of which these black women are going just to avoid working with BLACK MAN just astounds me...I hope every black male in the industry are aware of these crass tactics.
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Posted - Aug 7 2015 : 11:34AM
The min i find out a starlet won't work with black dudes, I scratch them off the list. Also...why has Karen Caan not become a huge starlet?
According to statistics I saw in the IR thread wm/bf is the least selling but yet they are paired with Black women in this movie. It is like it is done just to say there is no market for Black women and perpetuate a myth..Round and Brown on RK.com now features Latino and mixed women instead of Blacks..I think it is a attempt to stave off the inevitable...eventually the entire industry will be replaced with new people and they know it.
^it isn't the least selling there were no statistics either that was just something interracial4life said if it was the least selling I'd doubt they would be producing it at all
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Posted - Aug 7 2015 : 1:51PM
^ I don't think interracial4life would lie he seems like a pretty str8 up dude...if he said it there is probably some truth to it.
^I wouldn't listen to a guy who's quote before it was deleted from his profile was "no white guys allowed" and wouldn't make any sense for companies to produce wm/bf porn if it doesn't sell they'd just be wasting money,
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Posted - Aug 8 2015 : 5:15AM
True. That guy has an agenda and he's on several forums peddling it. But to play Devil's Advocate, there are other people here who've said more racist things than IR4L. I wish I could find the website again, I've definitely looked... But it showed the most popular search terms of the past year and "Ebony" is the HIGHEST increase by far. The idea that WM/BF porn doesn't sell is not true. It's not been heavily marketed but it's growing in popularity by leaps and bounds. One used to have to really dig to find BF/Non-BM IR and a lot of what was made, was really lacking. Now, I can find a lot more of it. RnB is really a great site. Exotic4K and BlackGFs too. My only problems still are mediocre WM talent and disrespectful/wack directors making borderline racist commentary and using bad titles like "My Ghetto Stepmom."
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Posted - Aug 8 2015 : 5:20AM
She is correct here but let's also remember that 2 of the most popular BF performers with "mainstream" fans (really meaning WM) are Nadia Jay, Skyler Nicole and Chanell Heart herself. I wouldn't say these ladies are very White looking. Nadia has a more Asian/Native American look and Chanell Heart has a sort of Lucy Thai Cambodian/Thai look to me. I don't know what their actual ethnic combinations are, but none of them are largely White looking.
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Posted - Aug 8 2015 : 6:27PM
edited Edited by - Interracial4Life on 8/8/2015 6:44:22 PM
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Posted - Aug 9 2015 : 4:23PM
If you go to X-Rent or those other adult dvd online store you will see what I'm taking about.
I didn't say it was a top seller but to say it doesn't sell is ridiculous,dogfart has 3 wm/bf sites, reality kings has weekly updates of round and brown,bangbros has brown bunnies if it didn't sell why would company's waste money producing scenes? Even whiteout is no. 16 in top price search's on this site, plus wm/bf porn is not massively produced to began with although there has been a rise as of late, and no matter what 9 out of 10 times white on white porn is most likely going to be the top seller
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Posted - Aug 9 2015 : 6:17PM
^ No one said wm/bf did not sell it is the least selling but every time a Black woman works it is with a white male.. why is it forced on the consumers almost everyday when it is a money loser no one wants to see...it has to be political.
^^ Apparently, 'least selling' is not synonymous with 'money loser', and that's assuming you have your facts straight. Working with white males doesn't seem to have ruined Skin Diamond's career, so, maybe you don't. Edited by - hardware on 8/9/2015 6:37:43 PM
I'd highly doubt its the least selling, the thing is its not forced on the consumers there a quite a few people that like wm/bf porn myself included that's why brown bunnies was switched back to interracial because the consumers requested it, again if it lost more money than it gained then why would company's continue to produce it wasting money
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Posted - Aug 9 2015 : 7:09PM
^^ Word is Skin Diamond is only doing GG so something changed her idea of working with wm. If money loser and least selling are not synonymous BM/BF would be more common...The industry has to be pushing a racial agenda the race theme titles, lack of Black women working with Black men and wm/bf still being produced when it is the worst selling genre of all is proof of it even if some people grin and bear it.
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Posted - Aug 9 2015 : 7:31PM
Skin Diamond did not exclusively shoot with non-black men, so I don't know what you mean by "something changed her idea of working with wm."Again, does black on black outsell wm/bf?
Skin diamond has a boyfriend I believe that is the reason she is only doing Girl Girl plus she also worked with black men does that mean she changed her mind about them also?where is the the proof that wm/bf is the worst selling genre you and interracial4life have yet to show hard evidence or proof that show that wm/bf is the worst selling genre.
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Posted - Aug 9 2015 : 7:46PM
Another poster mentioned wm didn't affect Skin Diamond career I just pointed out she is reportedly doing GG only now..I don't have the sales stats I relied on information from a very reliable source on the board..it has been stated repeatedly wm/bf is the worst selling genre of all if there is any truth to that why is it produced as much as it is..that is the point.
