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| aclayfan All-Star Member 5059 Posts 8/11 | |
| Eva93 Member 774 Posts 2/16 | ^x7 I think the effort point is one worth diving into more. There are a good amount of scenes that you can tell are just rushed through. Not having a lot of story time is a bad thing (if anything, it can be good depending on what the story is) as long as the sex is good, as great sex/chemistry between the performers is ultimately the most important part of porn, and can tell more of a story than dialogue ever can if given enough time and the right girls are paired together. Two big issues I've noticed recently is that when calling for specific types of submissions, Bree is asking for stories that are simple, and putting emphasis on the fact that they're only spending a few hours on them. By putting so much focus on something "simple", I've noticed a lot of the submissions are not just simple in their setting, but a lot of the submissions end up being similar to what's been popular before instead of trying something new for those. That's where the characterization comes in to lift those basic stories. The recent Nina/Tiffany scene had a simple story submission that had the characters being best friends where one got stood up for a date, and to console her, the other friend was to dance with her until the tension lead them to have sex. Instead, we got a shoehorned fake incest scene where none of that tension was given time to build properly. The scene itself was only saved by the sex being as good as it was. Like I said above, I don't think GW is coasting, but I think there have been a lot of times recently where there's been a fear to shake things up and they just keep the status quo because it keeps a lot of the members happy. I think taking the "focus on acting" approach the b/g site does for those simpler scenes would go a long way, as well as instead of spending 12 hours on the first scene, take a set change or two out of it and focus more on the characters rather than where the scene is. ^^^ I don't really have a problem with the number of threesomes, but as you said, GW tends to run things too heavily in one direction before they have to completely stop for awhile due to the saturation. I'm kind of surprised they haven't done a new lactation scene given how popular the one with Abella was. Threesomes are not only difficult in porn, but they're not exactly the easiest IRL either lol. Unless it's with people you've fucked on the regular, there's going to be a bit of start/stop since it's hard to know what makes everyone feel good. For that reason, I don't have as much of a problem with how the threesomes are laid out. Rather, like the recent nonsense with doing 7 consecutive fake incest scenes a few months ago, the scheduling doesn't really get planned out to give a break for those who aren't into something. Edited by - eva93 on 4/18/2018 2:00:25 AM |
| Aya Senior Member All The Cool Girls Are Lesbians 7439 Posts 6/14 | But I'm glad they have found a better balance of casting fan favorites along regularly debuting new and long wanted girls. When beforehand it usually was the same handful of girls in all the scenes. But on the other hand these most of the new girls have become one and dones. And I still want to see the Pure Taboo style applied to Girlsway, I really think it would work despite the usual suspects who would automatically be against it. Anyways, speaking of threesomes, Alina Lopez makes her official debut in Green Card Mom with Mercedes Carrera and Christie Stevens, who is also making her GirlsWay debut. ![]() |
| pat362 Senior Member 10078 Posts 3/10 | |
| pat362 Senior Member 10078 Posts 3/10 | 1-I'm a realist and therefore I know it is impossible for any company to turn out great scenes when they have to produce over 20 each month. 2-I realise that they couldn't drastically cut down their output of scenes per month without getting a ton of negative feedback from members which in turn could become lost members and it could in turn mean losing money instead of making a profit. 3-I realise why a company might want to keep on coasting on a working formula and be very reticent to change anything about that formula because not all changes are positive but in the long run not making any changes can easily make that formula seem less and less enjoyable because there are no surprises left with that formula. I'm not advocating that GW drastically drop it's output but I don't know if there would be a significant outcry if they simply changed their update schedule so that a new scene got released every two days. That way you would have about 15 or so new scenes each month instead of the 20 plus which in turn would mean that they could spend more time producing each video or at least be able to spend a lot more time on the odd one that they think needs the extra production time. I don't know if there is an overuse of the "reluctance" scenario in GW scenes so much as they aren't changing their recipe. They could have reluctance scenarios where one of the performer is attracted to the other but afraid to show it and this way you could have a sort of seduction happening where the interested party seduces the reluctant performer. That kind of scenario would require that more time be invested because two minutes of pre-sex storyline isn't going to cut it. My current go to for good lesbian examples is the movie "Below Her Mouth". If you have seen the movie then you clearly see that there is a visible reluctance on the part of one of the women but also an obvious interest that the other woman recognizes and exploits to both their advantage. There is more chemistry and heat in their first encounter at a lesbian bar than you get in most current lesbian videos. |
| PornStarNamedBuckNaked All-Star Member Sometimes life is goofier than a monkey on ether 12073 Posts 7/10 | |
| aclayfan All-Star Member 5059 Posts 8/11 | |
| tintintin Senior Member 1230 Posts 8/07 | I think Alina masterbating behind the door was hot. I am also someone who would have liked to see Alina masterbate in front of Mercedes and her new partner while the moms are getting on |
| Eva93 Member 774 Posts 2/16 | ^x5 I really think it would depend on the quality of the output if the release schedule increases. If it gets significantly better, I don't think it would be too much of an issue with members. But, if they put the extra time in and scenes still occasionally come out half-baked, it's going to make them stand out even more because there isn't that additional content to cover for them. That Carter/Erica Lauren scene was going to be poorly received no matter what, but it would have been even worse if there were only 3 other MG scenes that month. As for the reluctance, it doesn't matter if they change how they do it or not. It's become like squirting was last year and quite frankly needs a break along with non-MG fake incest scenes for awhile. There were only 6 scenes in March where the characters weren't related and/or did not need non-seductive persuasion to have sex. That balance needs to be corrected in a much stronger way than tweaking formulas. |
| Aya Senior Member All The Cool Girls Are Lesbians 7439 Posts 6/14 | But on the whole, Girlsway is still great, but they could be better by making a few changes and being a little bolder. Anyways, GOTM Eliza Jane is rewarded again, this time with a scene with Shyla Jennings in Laundry Day ![]() |
| pat362 Senior Member 10078 Posts 3/10 | I truly believe that it would be worth cutting down on monthly output to concentrate on better developed and executed scenarios. In the same vein. I think it would be worth it for GW to offer scenario free videos where it's just two women having sex without having to play a role that they are ill-prepared to do justice to and where they still have amazing sexual chemistry together. That would be one way to compete against Mason's LesbianX because while I appreciate what Mason does. I don't believe that her talent lies in lesbian porn. |
| Eva93 Member 774 Posts 2/16 | ^ There hasn't been much dark content recently, but the recent Jelena/Dana BDSM scene is only few votes away from having half the amount of downvotes as it does upvotes, and the features in 2016 really tailed off in popularity the darker they got (though I think can't be separated without stating that there were 3 consecutive features that were dark and the narrative in Pandora/Missing being poor). Bree Daniels wrote her Dream Pairing which had dark/blasphemous content and she's still getting shit over it. There's a big difference between dark and mature stories, and I think mature stories are probably the way to go on GW for now before attempting something dark. I don't think we'll ever see scenario-free scenes unless it's part of a model's GOTM showcase scene. The membership has made it explicitly clear there that they demand stories, as can often be seen both in forum posts and in the comments when there's a scene that doesn't have much of a story. And as for the quality, I meant if the content is significantly better, I don't think members would be upset at all if the scenes are better. But, it makes the bad scenes stand out more if there's less content. For every Charlotte/Penny/Serena/Eliza that are good actresses and you know that if given the time that a scene will be elevated, there are the Jenna/Shyla/Darcie/Lana's that are so limited in their acting abilities that the extra time probably wouldn't elevate things all that much, to be honest. Edited by - eva93 on 4/20/2018 11:58:32 AM |
| MorganKane Senior Member 6037 Posts 10/10 | While I don't really have much of an interest in darker scenes, how much difference is there between Pure Taboo type scenes or the Jelena/Dana BDSM and the endless GW scenes where someone is really reluctant or being blackmailed into having sex? What I would want to see is more dramatic/realistic/serious plots. As much as I like the funny, silly and easy set ups I do think there needs to be a better balance. It'll never happen, but I'd love to see some scenario free scenes. Would be a much better idea for a vignette than some of the vignettes they have been putting out recently. |
| Aya Senior Member All The Cool Girls Are Lesbians 7439 Posts 6/14 | I just don't want Girlsway to lose that experimental spirit that made them so popular in the first place, and to get stuck churning out and recycling the same handful of themes. Anyways, Alina Lopez is back already in Almost Caught Cheating with Whitney Wright, who is on the come up herself. ![]() |
| pat362 Senior Member 10078 Posts 3/10 | To begin. Let's discuss the storyline. I wish I could say that the story was badly developed but that would imply that there was an actual story to begin with but there wasn't. The scene literally starts with Jelena wearing a ball gag, collar, leash and handcuff with no explanation as to why she is wearing those things. It would have been nice to get an idea as to why she would want to wear those things. It's pretty bad when Kink does a better set-up than you and their set-ups tend to be pretty superficial in nature because they concentrate on the sex. The chemistry between both women is very good but I don't know if it's genuine or that both women are true porn professionals who are able to simulate actual chemistry. I honestly don't know and don't care because you can't tell either way. I don't know if they had the final scene in Silence of the Lamb in mind when they came up with the concept and ending for this scene but the ending definitely explains the title. Sadly it left a bitter taste in my mouth because even fake snuff films don't appeal to me and it's hard to take a different view of that ending when Jelena has just sucked the life out of Dana and therefore killed her. Now maybe it's just me and Dana is still alive but I doubt it as Jelena says that she won't meet her next week. Before I offer a suggestion as to how the scene should have gone. I want to point out that 42 of the 60 post for that scene also gave the scene a positive score and that most of the other 18 either gave as many bad scores as good one but they still seemed to enjoy the scene. The ones that didn't were those people that aren't remotely interested in any kind of BSDM. Here is Pat's version of the scene. Remove any and all mention that Jelena is some kind of Succubus who will ultimately kill her sexual partner. It adds nothing to the scene and makes no sense in the kind of scene they were shooting. The scene should have started with Jelena playing either a shy or maybe uptight co-worker/employee of Dana who has a visible attraction to Dana. The set-up should have been at least 10 to 15 minutes long and involve both women interacting with each other where they have discussions regarding Sub/Dom relationships in a BSDM lifestyle. From there you could have had Dana invite Jelena to supper all the while preparing the various tools she will use on Jelena. Preferably there should have been a special BSDM room (think 50 shades of Grey) where Dana has all those special tools and other implemented. You could have had shots of Jelena selecting and putting some demure clothes on while in another shot you have Dana choosing one of her Dom outfits but hiding it under a robe. What would follow is them interacting a little bit before Dana takes Jelena to her special room. You could have shots of Jelena being surprised but also looking excited which is followed by Dana putting the collar and handcuff on Jelena but not the gag. The actual sex could begin but because Jelena is too vocal or making too much noise and require that Dana use the ball gag to silence her. The rest could have been pretty much what we got but no rimming of any kind and definitely no weird ending. Instead just a very satisfied Jelena. |
| Eva93 Member 774 Posts 2/16 | ^^ With how the content is right now, trying something more dramatic is going to work over dark with the member base. You have to ease an audience in when the vast majority of the content goes as "dark" as the occasional blackmail scenario. I feel like there was an over-correction because of how the features in 2016 had a progressively more neutral reaction from the membership. While I think a lot of that has to do with how the narrative on the Mantis stuff became something you would need a flow chart to follow (and even then it didn't really make sense), there was also the fact that there were 5 out of 6 features that were dark on top of being dramatic. Bree's writing as we've seen when it comes to drama at this point goes to tie in a dark element, and the GW audience just got burned out on it in 2016. But, there was such a sharp pivot that instead, now we're barely getting drama at all rather than just some drama without the darkness. Porn in general has a problem with going over the top on everything. If there's going to be comedy, it's going all-in, and with darkness, it's going to try and shock the audience rather than finding a middle ground. Just having good drama without that shock value seems like the perfect middle ground for Girlsway right now. ^ I agree that Jelena not being her character in Vampires would have gone a long way for the narrative of a scene. However, as it was a scene that she wrote, I'm very hesitant to say anything about the structure or narrative of the scene. It's strange, but I always put a bit of a line when it comes to models that come up with a scene idea versus a studio that produces it (either through the staff or picking member scenarios). If that's how she wanted the scene to play out, it's not my place to say what could have been done better. |
| aclayfan All-Star Member 5059 Posts 8/11 | 2. Bunch of scenes were cancelled when the porn shoot moratorium was put in place. It's too bad as there were a couple good lined up. 3. Tasty newbie Athena Palomino makes her debut in a softball theme 3-some in May. Nice get. |
| Aya Senior Member All The Cool Girls Are Lesbians 7439 Posts 6/14 | ^Although the core member base loves their fauxcest and mommy talk, there are those who are interested in more. It's kind of sad to hear about how one members story got twisted into a fauxcest scene when it originally wasn't about that. And I agree about Athena. Girlsway has been doing a good job lately with their debuts. Somebody there is keeping their eyes peeled for up and comers. |
| pat362 Senior Member 10078 Posts 3/10 | The pros: -Both women look good and I give extra points to Shyla for her new hair style. I love her bangs. -The premise is cute and if it had been properly executed than it would have been enjoyable to watch but it wasn't. -The dialogue is decent and the acting isn't bad on the part of Eliza but sadly Shyla is a little too wooden. -There is a lot of kissing and not the quick lip on lip that we often get but some deep kissing with tongue action. -The sex is pretty good but ultimately is hard to enjoy because of the noise(see con). -Shyla should get an award for the cunnilingus skills she demonstrated in that scene because they are amazing. Cons: -The biggest problem with the scene is that some genius thought it would be a good idea to use a leather couch to shoot a sex scene where people are obviously naked because no one knows that leather by it's very nature is already a material that generates a specific sound when it is rubbed against or that it makes that much more sound when flesh is rubbed against it. That couch was louder than some of the fake moans the women were making. -The premise was cute but they again screwed it up with annoying errors that should not exist if they had bothered to plan the scene for about five minutes prior to shooting it. Here is a quick list: Why is Shyla's carrying her laundry basket to answer the door? Did she already know that Eliza was bringing her basket of laundry and wanted to make sure that we would see that both were pretty empty. Why does Shyla answer the door wearing only a bra? Did she already know that she was about to meet her next sex partner and wanted to have less clothes to remove later on? Why does Eliza barge in without being invited? Did she read Shyla's mind and know that this is what Shyla was going to do? It's another scene that had potential but lack of preparation screwed it up for me and this time budget isn't to be blame for why they didn't bother planning it better because it would not have cost a penny more to shoot it differently. The more I watch GW videos and the more I get the feeling that GW isn't trying to come up with scenarios of things that can happen to people in real life but of things that can only happen to performers in porn movies and more often than not bad porn movies. That Laundry day scenario is basically a bad porn movie where the pizza delivery guy has been replaced with a girl looking to do her laundry and the customer has been replaced with a girl that is just waiting to have sex with the laundry person. |
| Aya Senior Member All The Cool Girls Are Lesbians 7439 Posts 6/14 | I've been wanting to see Mona Wales and Lyra Law paired up, and it finally happened in Browser History. These 2 were just made for each other. They also had fun on All Girl Massage in A Firm Hand. ![]() ![]() Next up is another dreaded threeway; Lost in the Scenario., which has Tiffany Watson, Nina North, and Valentina Nappi. All ladies who don't pop up on Girlsway that often. ![]() Finally, is the last part in the under the radar Vignette series School's Out: The Tutor Redux with Adria Rae and Alina Lopez in already her 3rd scene in just a week. ![]() |
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| Ade87 Member 135 Posts 2/16 | I don't know how much of an influence Bree Mills has on Girlsway other than funding, but she seems from what I see and hear far more focused on Pure Taboo, and has done so for some time now to the point she doesn't even reply in this forum anymore which is a shame. I know I said it before, while I do enjoy fauxcest scenes when done well, but when it's thrown into scenes from left field for the sake of it, like as mentioned, the Nina North and Tiffany Watson, well, it falls flat. Not the scene is ruined entirely, but it does take the shine off it. For example, Nina and Tiffany could have been roommates, best friends, exes, teammates, cheer squad, employees (if setting fitted), whatever. Countless ways of going about it. I kinda feel the same about Alina Lopez debut scene too. Speaking of whom, she really is awesome. The more scenes of her in them, the better. Even her just masturbating alone made the scene decent. Overall, glad Eliza Jane and Scarlett Sage have become GOTMs. I still have to watch their showcase scenes. Good seeing Jenna Ross, Nina North and Samantha Hayes back. Khloe Kapri (one of my favourites), Ivy Wolfe, Whitney Wright and Kenzie Reeves can do no wrong it seems. Hope to see more Lily Love this year. I was super stoked to see she returned. So beautiful. Likewise Kali Rose, Cadey Mercury, Emma Hix (looking forward to her scene tomorrow) and Carolina Sweets. Also a s/o for Jade Nile returning to Girlsway now she's back in the industry to go with Reena Sky after he break soon to be return and likewise Riley Reid. Big complaint though is missing the opportunity to shoot Violet Starr who has retired. At least GFF and AllHerLuv shot many scenes with her I suppose! |
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| PornStarNamedBuckNaked All-Star Member Sometimes life is goofier than a monkey on ether 12073 Posts 7/10 | I was so excited when I first discovered GW (through this thread) and was really enjoying what they were doing but I'm not feeling the same vibe that I did a few months ago. We'll see. |
| pat362 Senior Member 10078 Posts 3/10 | There are at least 4-5 of these videos that have potential and a couple of the other that may not completely disappoint once I see the finish product. I do like some of the pairings. |
| MorganKane Senior Member 6037 Posts 10/10 | Whilst we are on the subject of upcoming scenes...am I the only one who thinks that the Jenna J Ross/Chanell Heart/Katie Morgan scene sounds incredibly similar to the recent Alina Lopez/Mercedes Carrera/Christie Stevens one? It's stepsister instead of stepmother, but still... |
| Aya Senior Member All The Cool Girls Are Lesbians 7439 Posts 6/14 | ![]() Anyways, April is almost over, so what are your guesses wishes for Girlsway in May? GOTM: I'm gonna guess Gina Valentina. As far as debuts go, I would love to see Mary Moody, Ella Knox, Sofi Ryan, Victoria June. As far as comebacks, I would like to the return of Anya Olsen, Cory Chase, Emily Addison, Jillian Janson, Riley Reyes. And some hot pairings I would love to see: Georgia Jones & Jenna Sativa April O'Neil & Dillion Harper Chanel Preston & Mona Wales |
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| Ade87 Member 135 Posts 2/16 | ^ Ella Knox debut scene trailer is up btw. Seen her about in a couple of G/G scenes. Gorgeous girl. Reminds me a lot of G/G only Layla Rose from a handful of years ago. Edited by - Ade87 on 4/28/2018 1:14:25 PM |
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| aclayfan All-Star Member 5059 Posts 8/11 | 2. Watched a Jill Kassidy/Krissy Lynn scene for MissaX recently. It was set in a dressing room. Yes, it was a step mom scene. What it ,also, had was a nice degree of sexual tension in the set-up. That should really be the main goal of every porn plot, create some electricity before the performers get down to business. 3. On the 3-some issue. I'm not against them. The key is location & camera work. If you try to squeeze 3 girls on a couch, it becomes difficult to get all the best angles. I wouldn't call GW masters of camera work under any situation. |
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| tintintin Senior Member 1230 Posts 8/07 | If they did the 3-somes and incestthemed scenes would reduce instantly Just like they did with squirting and mommytalk. A few folks complained and they completley got rid of squirting and mommytalk ;-) PS: I like 3-somes and incest themed scenes. My only complain is the filming (3-somes) and the boring repeating setups (incest) Edited by - tintintin on 4/29/2018 5:02:57 PM |
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| erolixxx Member 100 Posts 5/14 | ^^ Maybe Bree will test this mix of Pure Taboo and G/G and the result may tell if there's that much room for a more hadcore, story driven lesbian genre. Let's wait and see but I think it's good enough that at least they will try it. And as a GW member, I'd say that I'm truly expecting Bree shares this lesbian series wih us or I guess there will be a few complains about PT getting a lesbian series and GW not. Edited by - erolixxx on 4/30/2018 10:23:20 PM |
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