Less identical crap, more sleaze and bush! 2378 Posts 7/09
Posted - Aug 20 2016 : 3:30AM
Agree, they are only fat in the right places.. Big, natural, tits Also want to note that I was not body shaming, only seconding the three girls suggested.
Scenes 10/10 is coming. I and other fans of the LP dreamed of it and now became reality. The second sexiest woman in the world will record with the LP. I hope they do a lot of scenes. 3on1 mainly.
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jeffandersonn Deactivated User
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Posted - Aug 25 2016 : 5:17AM
there is something wrong in the U.S business model if legalporno can afford to fly american performers to mexico or prague and shoot huge gangbang and they don't. instead of blaming piracy.....learn from them!
pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07
Posted - Aug 25 2016 : 1:18PM
They can afford it because they make so much money stealing content they can afford to shoot this cheaply in Mexico. What is the lesson that their competitors should put into action exactly? Start stealing others content?
Less identical crap, more sleaze and bush! 2378 Posts 7/09
Posted - Aug 25 2016 : 1:57PM
^ Just ignore "Paria Adel" and his dozen posts about how any girl curvier than a broomstick is fat.
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jeffandersonn Deactivated User
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Posted - Aug 25 2016 : 2:05PM
you wrong. Giorgio Grandi is not a thief, as well the Mexican director. they do not make money stealing content, and their scenes are pirated too. Legalporno makes an insane amount of money just from subscriptions. and they give the possibility to buy a la carte, buying tickets, and their scenes are not cheap at all....but people still buy them! Last but not least, they paid attentions to what their consumers want to watch. 1h long hard gonzo scene, plenty of dp, dap, dpp, gangbang, piss etc etc they changed so many male performers because fans don't like them. lesson is: shoot what fans want to see. take a look at the abella danger/mandingo new "anal" scene. the anal part lasts 1 min 23 sec ! really? and do directors expect fans are happy to watch it?? there are hundreds of thing U.S directors should change but they do not care, or refuse to do because they all think they are the best and fans are just a pain in the ass. how can they pretend a fan pays if they shoot the millionth B/G scene? every day the same scene for years.
^ Whatever BlackSix's expertise on the subject may be, this notion that LegalPorno's own production is little more than a subsidized loss leader for their tube sites is pretty dumb, and it's not getting any better from repeating it ad nauseam on the forum. But some porn fans seem to need a convenient bogeyman - first it was Mindgeek, now it's LP's turn. Saves from having to think too hard about an issue that's actually pretty darn complex, I guess.
pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07
Posted - Aug 25 2016 : 3:06PM
Amusing to see Paris Adel accuse me of picking fights when he runs from thread to thread calling performers 'fat.' Trolls are going to troll. Look there's no doubt LP makes loads of money from their piracy sites. The pirate site existed long before LP so it is safe to say they got their capital from that site. Whether or not LP is profitable on its own or not, I doubt they would produce content if it wasn't profitable but the fact, and it is a fact, no matter how many posters in this thread would rather not admit it, is LP makes a siginificant if not the majority of their profits from piracy. To criticize LP's competitors who don't make money from piracy for not spending the same levels of money is absurd. Finally, I'm willing to let the piracy point alone (but the title of this thread should probanly change) but when jeffanderson literally brings it up to criticize LP's competitors I hardly think that doesn't merit a response.
4 on 1 for Juelz Ventura including Massive BBC (Alex Jones/Ed Junior) DAP at LP/Sineplex. Other 2 guys are Chris Strokes and Alex Legend. http://www.legalporno.com/watch/31579/juelz_ventura_epic_double_anal_sineplex_extreme_rs273
I think many guys here need to understand and make a proper distinction between Legal Porno (the distributor) and the studios selling contents to it such as Giorgio Grandi (shoots in Prague), Sineplex (shoots in Mexico) and Gonzo (shoots in Budapest). The owners of those studios, to the exception of Gonzo which has same owner as LP, are selling their contents to LP for a pre-agreed contract price and are surviving only on the margins they make after paying all their production costs. Accusing these guys of stealing contents or piracy does not make much sense. They are simply looking for ways of reducing their costs to a minimum in order to be able to put the price to afford stars such as Juelz Ventura, Megan Rain, Samantha Rone and so on.
^ Gonzo is also based in Prague I've already told you about their setup twice, and yet you continue to post misinformation, I can only assume this is because the facts don't suit your agenda. Once again: LP is an umbrella site that different studios release under. The owner and proprietor of the tubesite in question runs the Gonzo studio, his side buisness has absolutely nothing to do with Sineplex or Giorgio Grandi, they generate their income from the sales of their content.... you know this because I've already told you, but you continue to post these nonsense claims and blanket statements about the whole setup; your stated "fact" in this post is in fact completely inacurate, LP makes the majority of their profits from memberships and ticket purchases, the only person profiting from a tubesite is the Gonzo studio boss.
Paddy82: And you're ignoring the fact that the entire setup wouldn't exist without the tube site money that the Gonzo boss put into LP to get the site going. Edited by - killbillvol69 on 8/26/2016 10:45:18 AM
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scope21 Deactivated User
Only Big Booty will do!! 6253 Posts 12/13
Posted - Aug 26 2016 : 11:02AM
Hey i watched her trailer i wanna see it...shes not my type, but shes put weight on and looks hot for me now Edited by - scope21 on 8/26/2016 12:55:57 PM
The "setup" and infrastructure of the site existed before he came on board, from my understanding that was the work of Sineplex which in its own right had already been an established studio for years prior. What the Gonzo boss did is streamline and improve a poorly functioning service and idea, and effectively bought the rights to that idea which then became LP, initially a distribution site for just Sineplex classic and Sinplex Czech studios content. Did the wealth generated from his tubesite enable him to do this, more than likely, and again I don't condone or support that side of his buisness, but I also don't agree with statements that lump the other producers in to the same hat by using terms that include all of them without distinction. Sineplex had already established itself as one of Europes best hardcore and niche producers, as had Giorgio Grandi with several of his projects, and I don't agree that they should be tarred with the same brush when we talk about piracy. My problem isn't with the facts at hand, it's with the false way in which it's presented by the uninformed.
^ OK I feel like we're waffling with the sineplex connection. If LP is basically Sineplex redefined, then I renew my claim posted a few days ago in another thread:So it wasn't the same people breaking the law with the tube site as were running the old sineplex. But the point still stands. Sineplex was in trouble for a long time. It was a joke how they kept promising new content. We had a thread that was counting down year after year of disappointment from them. Then the illegal tube site money steps in, rebrands them, and it takes off. No matter how we spin this, no illegal tube site money = no LP. It's not that every director who works with them is running an illegal tube site. But without the illegal tube sites, none of this huge 'success' happens. So when people post that other studios just need to "be more like LP" or "learn from LP" to be more successful, that's where I and others have to call bullshit. Even if someone changed the claim to "be more like Sineplex", it still wouldn't make sense because the only reason Sineplex is doing well now is because they're connected to LP, who have the tube site money to make things happen. Before the tube site money, Sineplex was shooting the same stuff, but they were in trouble. It is naive to think that the tube site money hasn't positively affected all of the studios connected to LP in a large way. So is Giorgio Grandi "to blame" for what LP does with tube sites? No. But is his current success possible without the tube site money? No.
I think we're actually in agreement with most of this, my only issue is inaccurate information like your quote above, when people post about certain studios having direct involvement in piracy when that's not the case. It's no good saying afterwards that the point still stands in spite of your false accusations, because forum members read this stuff and a lot of them take it for fact. I completely agree that LP as a brand took off with the help and investment of money derived from a tubesite. I agree that the suggestion of other companies learning from LP on how to improve wasn't the best thing to say and was bound to rub some people up the wrong way. Sineplex was in trouble because of awful management and the inability to get their product to market, but the product was always solid. As you say the product hasn't changed, it's just been given a route to market by someone who's far more competent with the buisness side of things. I disagree that Giorgio wouldn't have been successful without the LP platform, in fact I would argue that it's Giorgio's work and style that's taken that site to another level. He's always been a great director and he seems to be getting better.
pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07
Posted - Aug 26 2016 : 4:54PM
I think Killbill already responded well to this claim. LP wouldn't exist as it currently does or have the level of success it has without the capital fom the piracy. Hard to see the tubesite, which is reportedly one of the most visited sites on the net, as a side business, more likely the reverse is true. No point in beating a dead horse though, if you review this thread you'd see I've even recently defended some LP producers when it comes to them trying to avoid prosecution. Just don't expect posters to let the 'everyone should learn from LP' statements to pass without comment.
Why are you so sure of that? As its heart, LP is little more than a specialized VOD pay-per-scene setup. That was hardly revolutionary at the time LP came into being, the big difference to other VOD operations is just that LP operates as an exclusive distribution channel for certain studios, rather than competing against other VOD sites and regular DVD stores. Of course there were setup costs involved, but you're making it sound like setting up LP was a hugely complex procedure that required massive seed funding. As murdock (I think) pointed out in another thread recently, Netflix didn't start out as a juggernaut either; just like the early LP wasn't anywhere near the large operation it has turned into. As mentioned before, this all comes across a bit bogeyman-ish. (I'd concede that the tube site profits probably subsidized LP's in-house production under the Gonzo.com brand early on, but that doesn't seem to be an argument you guys are interested in making...) I daresay the marketing and infrastructure expertise the LP guys gained from running the tube sites was at least as instrumental for the conception of the LP platform as the money. But that type of expertise doesn't necessarily need to come from tube sites operations. There are plenty of VOD operations out there that seem to be run fairly competently - what they're lacking is the killer product that LP gets to sell through its exclusivity deals. And the real elephant in the room is regularly sold web porn. I don't quite understand why, say, nobody ever wonders that a huge company like Gamma Entertainment doesn't do any LP-style à la carte sales instead of running all their managed properties strictly as flat-fee websites. There are people out there who could do what LP has done, but they don't. Why not? Edited by - shalalin on 8/26/2016 8:48:43 PM
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scope21 Deactivated User
Only Big Booty will do!! 6253 Posts 12/13
Posted - Aug 26 2016 : 8:45PM
Give em chance bro...done at least 4 scenes last one today Even Moe the monster shot with her yesterday...today was a 4 on 1
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Canadian_Cindy Deactivated User
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Posted - Aug 26 2016 : 10:09PM
She has, scenes not out yet. She is insanely hot, I would expect them to be fantastic.
I know they are cheaper, but what's the obsession with guys at LP? DAPS, TAPS, gang bangs, 50n1's, sperm cocktails.. It's getting harder to find a girl in these scenes, nothing but man, the solo part is skipped or boring and the g/g scenes are getting rare. Bring Jay Sin back.
:) Obvious we have different taste in porn scope21 (and what or who is hot), but this is the topic for thoughts on LP. A few months ago there were some fantastic scenes with nasty euro girls, maybe the holiday season in Europe has something to do with it.
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scope21 Deactivated User
Only Big Booty will do!! 6253 Posts 12/13
Posted - Aug 27 2016 : 4:48PM
Lol...cool i remember the euro angels series on evilangel hard stuff back in the day with rocco and the boys...those films were the blur prints.
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Canadian_Cindy Deactivated User
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Posted - Aug 27 2016 : 6:28PM
this is kind of like asking why KFC is so obsessed with chicken. Well, multi man scenes are the focus of their website; that is their product. Not sure your point because if their product is not for you , then you should probably be looking at other places. Edited by - Canadian_Cindy on 8/27/2016 6:29:08 PM
Here I am thinking it was all about the girls, and this was the topic to discuss LegalPorno. Obviously you don't know the history of Sineplex or LP. Through the years they have a great collection of anal bgg scenes, or bbgg. The focus never was gang bangs or acrobatic 3, 4 or 5 dicks in one ass. Am I missing something or is this the topic to talk about their content?
pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07
Posted - Aug 28 2016 : 4:27PM
It is henrik, don't worry. Somehow this has morphed into a LP updates/appreciation thread. Someone needs to create an appreciation thread elsewhere in the PP, this thread is not the place.
pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07
Posted - Aug 28 2016 : 4:29PM
It is called Legal Porno - Thoughts? so this is the place for him. Why don't you create a new LP appreciation thread for updates scope? I would do it but I only watch select LP scenes for the girl (Proxy Paige being number one).
I ♥ the male gaze (and Palestine). 8737 Posts 11/13
Posted - Aug 28 2016 : 5:38PM
^Didn't know you were a Proxy fan. She's amazing.
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Canadian_Cindy Deactivated User
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Posted - Aug 28 2016 : 5:49PM
LP's current product, which they sell, are scenes with men outnumbering the women so you have DPs DAPs etc... so, if you or someone else do not like that, why be part of an LP discussion? It's like spending time in a KFC forum saying you wish they didn't sell chicken and complain about it. What they did in the past really doesn't matter .. There are plenty of companies putting out great content with one man and one woman and so that is where you should invest your time. don't you think?
I'm not an actor, but I play one on TV 911 Posts 4/06
Posted - Aug 28 2016 : 10:34PM
I really liked KFC's original recipe chicken strips but then they stopped making them. Sure other places sell chicken strips too but KFC's original recipe were the best ones.
I don't like KFC. I like my chicken cooked with care, well presented and with some fine wine. The same goes for porn.You don't read very well do you? :) But hey, you're a girl, i get it, guys are your thing. But as long this is the topic for thoughts on LP: More girls!