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Tobias
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Posted - Oct 23 2009 : 3:19PM
Maybe this is just a timing issue. Maybe some of these women are reserving interracial for a special occassion. So, just like you wouldn't eat dessert before your entree, they're saving it for the end of their careers. Viewed this way, forcing them to do interracial now is spoiling the entire meal.
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C-Hammer
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Posted - Oct 23 2009 : 5:16PM
I can't even believe I'm about to rejoin the fray as far as this topic is concerned but here it is:
Hannah West- You and I made our peace a long time ago on this issue. That's why I was disappointed to see that the whole debate was basically moved to another thread with a dumber topic heading. I agree with everything you had to say about individual attractions and nobody should be bashing you about who you will and will not fuck.
I do take issue with you defending Tobias' moronic assessment that pressuring girls into doing IR is "akin to rape". See the difference between you taking heat for your choices ( no matter how intense it may be) and a girl suffering the brutality of rape is that once you log off or go home it's all trivial really. It takes most women years to repair the emotional scars of something as traumatic as rape, sometimes they never do.
The OP should be ashamed for making that analogy. I know you are on some sort of crusade to end the IR posts in much the same way the people that cry about girls not doing IR are on their own crusade, but that's a bad play man. Seriously, keep something as serious as rape out of your soap box arsenal.
Edited by - C-Hammer on 10/23/2009 5:17:54 PM
Edited by - C-Hammer on 10/23/2009 5:24:11 PM
BrazilianDude
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Posted - Oct 23 2009 : 6:34PM
what values? now talking crap on porn boards became values?, didn't know that.
Edited by - braziliandude on 10/23/2009 6:35:22 PM
 
BYOB_Kenobi
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(cleaning hands like blackjack dealer)
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nysportbusiness
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Posted - Oct 23 2009 : 7:50PM
Hannah - I am in the fashion industry - clothing business - wanted to discuss with you some of your ideas regarding retail clothing stores - drop me a shout at dbncmngr8@aol.com - Don
BrazilianDude
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Posted - Oct 23 2009 : 8:09PM
i have no problems with her personal prejudices, i couldn't care less what she does i don't find her attractive in the least, what i have trouble with is the fact that she's constantly hijacking interracial threads with her flaming posts.
the thing about HW is that in her mind she's a beautiful blonde blue-eyed caucasian girl from alabama, the kind everyone would die to have sex with , that's what she wanted to be but reality always sets in, it's also clear from her posts that she gets a kick out of being called a racist, that's why she's always posting in interracial threads, she needs self-validation, have you noticed how many times she wrote "as a good white girl i ...." come on you don't need a degree in psychology to realize that, she wants to be called a racist white girl, she says she's not a racist with a broad smile on her face thinking "oh you think i'm a racist white girl ,oh please call me that again" don't worry HW , that's life, we don't always get to be what we want, maybe in another life, try again ....

Edited by - braziliandude on 10/23/2009 8:19:17 PM

Hannah Westxxx
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Posted - Oct 23 2009 : 8:35PM
I can't even believe I'm about to rejoin the fray as far as this topic is concerned but here it is:
Hannah West- You and I made our peace a long time ago on this issue. That's why I was disappointed to see that the whole debate was basically moved to another thread with a dumber topic heading. I agree with everything you had to say about individual attractions and nobody should be bashing you about who you will and will not fuck.
I do take issue with you defending Tobias' moronic assessment that pressuring girls into doing IR is "akin to rape". See the difference between you taking heat for your choices ( no matter how intense it may be) and a girl suffering the brutality of rape is that once you log off or go home it's all trivial really. It takes most women years to repair the emotional scars of something as traumatic as rape, sometimes they never do.
The OP should be ashamed for making that analogy. I know you are on some sort of crusade to end the IR posts in much the same way the people that cry about girls not doing IR are on their own crusade, but that's a bad play man. Seriously, keep something as serious as rape out of your soap box arsenal.
Edited by - C-Hammer on 10/23/2009 5:17:54 PM
Edited by - C-Hammer on 10/23/2009 5:24:11 PM
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I'm just saying he was only referencing it to pressure..
Yesh you are right.. the attacks I get aren't nearly as bad as what someone feels as a rape victim..
But I see and understand his symbolic title..
I don't take his word "rape" so literal.. as I said, he didn't even really go into details about how it is similar to rape.. He just gave it a title.. rape is extreme force/pressure.. lots of anger..
That's what I take from his title
He's not talking about physically.. you know that.. c'mon.. you read his post.. wasn't a single comparison.. He's not calling these people rapists.. He's simply saying they are implying pressure that is indeeed HEAVY.. and sexual pressure is a variation of rape.. technically.. Do I find thses people any better than rapist? Legally YES..
Do I find these people any better than those who comitt hate crimes on gay people?
No! DEF not...
Pressure is bad in general.. I find it esp undue when it involves anything sexually
So he used a heavy word..
There are NOT many people here who haven't exchanged some heavy words.. The difference was most of them actually meant it..
to a writers defense.. to prove a point.. sometimes you have to be bold.. and get a little creative with symbols.. let's stop thinking about the physical aspect of rape and consider the things that go into rape.. pressure/force/anger.. pushing your WILL and WANTS on to somebody else who doesn't want them, says no, says why.. and yet they are pressured more.. labled, taunted.. it's relentless.. force feeding thoughts without hearing anything objective out of the "victim".. Not taking NO for an answer..
Think outside the box..
It wasn't meant literally.. And I have to be honest.. I think everyone knows that around here..
It's just such a god damn sensitive subject to people that folks will take any excuse to throw stones.. and lose all objectivity.
ex:
everybody is so damn stuck on the title nobody credits the actual post and the idea he is trying to express..


Hannah Westxxx
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Posted - Oct 23 2009 : 8:57PM
You want to piss me off. I def don't need a psychology degree to know that
even though lol.. I am two semsters away from having one
But at this point... I have fucking had it with you.
I am so god damn sick of your useless unvalidated points that you keep throwing up..
validate this asshole
when the fuck have i ever wrote "i am a good WHITE girl"
quote me bitch. Do it.
NOTe "Good girl".. and "Good white girl'.. NOT THE SAME FUCKING THING
post some links PLEASE I BEG YOU
Next. My eyes are green. NOT BLUE.
I post in IR threads because people mention my name. I respond. That's the point of being here.
If I loved being called a racist i wouldn't get so heated and try so hard to explain my POV.. Which is actually not at all the way you like to paint me.. I have never thought I was the most beautiful. I've said that. I don't believe EVERYONE wants to have sex with me.. the difference between me and you?
I can accept the fact people don't want to fuck me
you can't accept the fact someone might not want to fuck you due to a prefrence
and this is what pisses you off the most
You can't accept rejection
you can't accept a porn star having anything to say worth hearing
you are just a broke dick son of a bitch sitting at home wacking his dick via internet
and trying to fight with girls because you have zero feeling of self worth
You have bashed women on this site since you have joined.
and I think it's more than likely because you know you are a piece of shit
and you'd like to paint other people out on the level in which you live.
Try slitting your wrists.. it's become very popular these days
I tried ignoring you.. I left you alone.. and this might be a weak point where I found it absoulutely grafifying to lay it on your ignorant ass..
In short: (since I know you don't have reading comprehension skills)
FUCK YOU
and before anyone ELSE says shit about what i just wrote back to this douchebag.. Go read every single thing he has wrote in this thread.. and hell a few others..
.. go ahead.. edit me.. he's still a cunt.. and even you know that mod
the unknown pervert
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Posted - Oct 23 2009 : 8:59PM
Brazillian Dude I challenge you to find one post in this whole thread that would not be considered a flaming post by someone. Last time I checked around here most people believed that women had the right to do whatever they choose with their bodies. That includes deciding who gets to stick their dick into them. You (and a lot of other people/trolls in this thread are acting like every woman in history that did not get fucked by a black man was racist. Maybe it isn't your looks or skin color that is turning these women off to you, maybe it is your fucking annoying, whiny as fuck, attitude. Guess what, no woman in porn has ever fucked me either and I consider myself more attractive than Ron Jeremy, Dirty Harry, and a whole bunch of other male porn performers. I'm not looking to make it my life mission to go on a social crusade about it though.
Edited by - the unknown pervert on 10/23/2009 9:01:48 PM
C-Hammer
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Posted - Oct 23 2009 : 9:02PM
I'm just saying he was only referencing it to pressure..
Yesh you are right.. the attacks I get aren't nearly as bad as what someone feels as a rape victim..
But I see and understand his symbolic title..
I don't take his word "rape" so literal.. as I said, he didn't even really go into details about how it is similar to rape.. He just gave it a title.. rape is extreme force/pressure.. lots of anger..
That's what I take from his title
He's not talking about physically.. you know that.. c'mon.. you read his post.. wasn't a single comparison.. He's not calling these people rapists.. He's simply saying they are implying pressure that is indeeed HEAVY.. and sexual pressure is a variation of rape.. technically.. Do I find thses people any better than rapist? Legally YES..
Do I find these people any better than those who comitt hate crimes on gay people?
No! DEF not...
Pressure is bad in general.. I find it esp undue when it involves anything sexually
So he used a heavy word..
There are NOT many people here who haven't exchanged some heavy words.. The difference was most of them actually meant it..
to a writers defense.. to prove a point.. sometimes you have to be bold.. and get a little creative with symbols.. let's stop thinking about the physical aspect of rape and consider the things that go into rape.. pressure/force/anger.. pushing your WILL and WANTS on to somebody else who doesn't want them, says no, says why.. and yet they are pressured more.. labled, taunted.. it's relentless.. force feeding thoughts without hearing anything objective out of the "victim".. Not taking NO for an answer..
Think outside the box..
It wasn't meant literally.. And I have to be honest.. I think everyone knows that around here..
It's just such a god damn sensitive subject to people that folks will take any excuse to throw stones.. and lose all objectivity.
ex:
everybody is so damn stuck on the title nobody credits the actual post and the idea he is trying to express..
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While I respect the fact that you are willing to go against the grain in the face of such adversity, I still disagree with the original poster and his sentiment.
He likens verbal pressure applied on an internet message board to the act of forcing someone to do something against their will. Last I checked no one was forcing anybody to do anything, they are merely voicing their displeasure.
Sorry Hannah, I actually like your spirit and your willingness to go to the mat for what you believe in, but you can't have it both ways. You can't fight for freedom of choice and equate someone else's freedom of speech to "rape" within the same paragraph structure...it doesn't work.
If you really want someone else to respect your freedoms then you're going to have to roll with the punches on this message board because your critics will ALWAYS be loud. The only thing you can really do is follow the advice you gave someone else and stop reading it if you don't like it.
BrazilianDude
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Posted - Oct 23 2009 : 9:05PM
all good, but for now let me just ask you something, why are you changing the subject, when did i say women don't have the right to do with they want?, please quote.


BrazilianDude
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Posted - Oct 23 2009 : 9:13PM
HW WROTE
"If I am a "kinda" white girl and I choose to not have sex with a dark skin, does that make me racist?"
her own words.
4theheart
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Posted - Oct 23 2009 : 9:19PM

Edited by - 4theheart on 10/23/2009 9:21:54 PM
 
fu_q All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Oct 23 2009 : 9:22PM
Incorrect.
link

Edited by - fu_q on 10/23/2009 9:27:28 PM

Nimrod
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Posted - Oct 23 2009 : 9:53PM
Hannah West is making interracial sex (with blacks of course) sound like interspecies sex. In one of her posts, she said she dated a black girl...but she didn't say much about it afterwards. That was a NICE TRY though. There is no way, someone who has dated a black girl can feel that way about black men, unless of course the person is 100 % lesbian.
kaiser1one
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Posted - Oct 23 2009 : 10:30PM
I never saw this happening in high school. Although as with most groups of ppl, ppl did stick with their own skin color most the time. But that's a usual thing.
It sounds like your friend's need to get with the times. That's some 60's thinking.
I have heard the argument that some black women think a black man who dates outside his race is weak. How the slag they came up with that, I dunno.
My last girlfriend. Now you've heard of someone.
And Hannah in a title called, Cum Dumpster Blondes isn't deplorable????
On a side note. Seriously guys, can't you debate a topic WITHOUT bashing a pornstar?????? Isn't that against the rules anyways? Yet you guys KEEP bashing Hannah. I can see if you might be upset. But good lord ppl, no need to rag on somebody so much.
I imagine, because it has nothing to do with skin color.
Got no problem with this as long as the idiots(not calling you one) don't ruin it for everyone else. Which is STILL happening this day and age.
That's actually what annoys many guys though. That a chick will wait till her career is near over or faltering and jump the boat to IR to try and rebound.
When did a guy constantly pressuring his gf/a woman to fuck become rape????? Guys do it all the time, without actually exerting physical force to do it.
C-Hammer
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Posted - Oct 23 2009 : 10:51PM
I definitely agree with this. A good debate should never be personal and some of the things said about the girl on this thread and others have just been foul. I've gone back and forth with her myself but we've never taken it to the level of personal attacks and I never will.
BYOB_Kenobi
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Posted - Oct 23 2009 : 10:55PM

C-Hammer,
It's really weird reading a lot of your posts cause if I didn't see your name/avatar, I could easily mistake it for one of my posts.

Edited by - BYOB_Kenobi on 10/23/2009 10:56:18 PM
Hannah Westxxx
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Posted - Oct 23 2009 : 10:56PM
Yeah.. HOW DID KINDA WHITE come up?
You asked me if I was full white.. I said I have NA in me..
wtf you make me think violent things.
"kinda" white was wrote because you already pushed the fact that I'm NOT white.
Make up your god damn mind. I actually wrote KINDA white to make YOU feel better..
AND AGAIN.. that doesn't say "i'm a good white girl"
Fuck off.. you aren't RIGHT just face it
When did you say women shouldn't have a choice?
You didn't damn have to..
the way you talk to women and about women on this board makes things VERY clear..
esp pornstars..
you speak as if you believe we are shit for brain whores who only fuck for money and therefore should fuck anything and everything for more money.. You wouldn't fuck us because we have AIDS.. We are so disgusting ECT.. I am not the only person who has called you out on it..
YOU imply double standrds between men and women.
You say rude shit consistantly. Degrading.
NONE of your facts are ever consistant.. just your rudeness.
C-hammer....
I get your point.. I understand why this may seem offensive.. I am not saying I would have picked the same word..
BUT AGAIN.. in his post he never mentions rape..
therefore.. it is left symbolic to pressure.
SINCE WE CAN ADDRESS THAT... and we get the symbol why are we sore? like I said.. I still find it as an excuse to throw stones over a subject that you may be a some are tender about.
It's a word.. an anology.. NOTHING written from the guy says the pressure people are rapist
Come on.. I know you can logically see the analogy.. I know you can..
how can it be fucked up if it's not literal physical rape?
I understand your POV but I think you've put the word 'rape' in a boxed definiton.. that's all.
who ever asked about
About my black girlfriend..
what you wanna know more?
Her name was Siah. She was beautiful.She had long dreads. She was initally involved with another girl. We met through friends. We hung out. I took her home one weekend from GA.. she was under stress.. My brother ended up having his son.. So she went to the hospital with me and met my entire family. They were all very nice to her. My mother asked her what pussy tastes like.. um.. my mom is quite the joker..
What else damn needs to be said..
Um.. she was the last girl i was with in my personal life.. I was tramatized after a sexual experience with her which made me realize i def wasn't gay..
She went home that weekend and ended up getting into a huge fight with the ex.. then they made up.. and I spoke to her about a year later..
WHY you required any more info about her.. I don't know.. I'm not sure what you were looking for..
What else you wanna know? We ate at chili's one time.. I had a fucking steak..
cooked well done
Does this help you? My apologies.. just didn't think any of this was NEEDED..

C-Hammer
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Posted - Oct 23 2009 : 11:07PM
Lol I appreciate it. I just try to get my point across respectfully because we are all here for the same thing really, an exchange of ideas and theories that relate to the adult industry. For the record the reply Hannah just made to my post proves my point...we agreed to disagree without all of the hostilities and negative B.S. :)
Hannah Westxxx
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Posted - Oct 23 2009 : 11:12PM
^ indeed we did
Maybe we are just oldschool.. seems to me to be the newer people who are acting crazy
BrazilianDude
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Posted - Oct 23 2009 : 11:43PM
Rape, also referred to as sexual assault, is an assault by a person involving sexual intercourse with or without sexual penetration of another person without that person's consent.
wikipedia
tobias should know the comparision is absolutely retarded.

Edited by - braziliandude on 10/23/2009 11:59:27 PM

Dr. Nasty
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Posted - Oct 23 2009 : 11:46PM
Its always the newer ones.
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BrazilianDude
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Posted - Oct 23 2009 : 11:56PM
there is nothing wrong with wanting a girl to do interracial, there are about 5 or 6 girls i want to see do interracial in the american industry (casey parker , kelli stone etc), i have NEVER even posted in their threads, i don't insult girls for not doing interracial, never did, even the ones i want to see do IR, just read my other posts, i don't even post in their threads, the problem i have is with girls i don't even find attractive invading interracial threads assuming everyone wants to see them do interracial, you know the kind of girl who only gets mentioned because of her deplorable behavior and if it wasn't for their behavior most people wouldn't even know they exist.
Edited by - braziliandude on 10/24/2009 12:01:27 AM
Blicky25
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Posted - Oct 24 2009 : 12:06AM
I don't normally post here but I read most of the stuff written. Whether you are black or white, one thing we can all agree on is that Hannah West is hot. If she was open to IR, all the black guys in this thread will be all over her. None of the stuff you guys are saying is going to hurt her career.
Hannah Westxxx
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Posted - Oct 24 2009 : 12:27AM
^ Thank you :)
ahhh brazilaindude..
again you miss the point..
It's not about me getting on her.. deliberatly starting war..
Here's the thing.. I believe it was NIMROD this time who made the slightest mention of me
I then responded to guess WHO..
nimrod.
We converstaed back and forth.
I never said hey brazilain asshole.. attack me please..
You just took that upon yourself..
i can however respect the fact you are seeming to calm down with your crazy shit..
but I'm still a bit pissed and indifferent to you for very obvious reasons..
BUT make no mistake.. you don't fool me.. it's a matter of time before you spiral out and say something completely fucked up toward me or women in general...
Don't act coy
Don't act innocent..
we can click your name and follow every single thread you have posted in and see your true colors..
So you haven't bashed the girls you like whom you'd love to see do IR.. that doesn't correct your constant mistakes. Basic rules are this.. if you find someone you don't like or agree with..move on.. You hate the fact that I talk in IR threads but you are the one that starts the most shit with me in these threads.. Here's advice for you.. how about you stay out of IR threads since you very obviously can't keep your cool. I do know nobody is posting things about you that are searchable.. unlike they do for me..
you came here to bullshit
I came here because I was mentioned
major difference
I shouldn't be condemned for giving an explaination or defending myself even if YOU disagree with whatever I am saying. The better point is I TRY. I TAKE THE TIME. You may think it's because of my behavior that people mention me..
but OH look!! another common ground we share..
you seem to have quite the reputaion yourself..
How about worrying about that more than me and mine?
k thanks.

Edited by - Hannah Westxxx on 10/24/2009 12:32:27 AM

BrazilianDude
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Posted - Oct 24 2009 : 12:31AM
hurting her career is not my intention, if you check the title this is not even her thread, i would agree if this was her thread.
BrazilianDude
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Posted - Oct 24 2009 : 1:21AM
"since you very obviously can't keep your cool"
hum ...
"and I think it's more than likely because you know you are a piece of shit"
"and before anyone ELSE says shit about what i just wrote back to this douchebag"
"In short: (since I know you don't have reading comprehension skills)
FUCK YOU"
now talk about keeping my cool, sounds like i'm not the one who lost control here.
you just can't handle the fact that no one gives a shit if you do interracial or not,the only time they even mention your name on interracial boards is when they talk about your stupid posts, other than that i've never seen anyone even mention your name, so don't even worry about it,if they were to actually "pressure" girls into doing interracial i'm pretty sure you wouldn't be one of them.
Tobias
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Posted - Oct 24 2009 : 1:42AM
Why is BrazilianDude allowed to run wild on all the threads sexually harassing people?
pokerman
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Posted - Oct 24 2009 : 2:07AM
I feel for killbillvol69 trying to mod this shit!
Enjoy porn and stop moaning. There is a lot of posters who only post about the same thing.
Enjoy the pornstars that do IR and stop bullying the ones that don't.


Edited by - pokerman on 10/24/2009 2:13:58 AM

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3 weeks and 500+ posts. Yeah, I think it's all been said. Shuttin' it down.
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