It doesn't matter.. his skin tone is light and since I've stated it's less about race and more about tone.. then this proves my point even better.. Mom didn't allow me back in church because IR doesn't mean you go to hell.. thats untrue.. And she is objective enough to explain to anyone that her tradtions aren't based off going to hell.. Edited by - Hannah Westxxx on 10/16/2009 4:47:44 PM
You are right. I have no doubt that if fans were required to get a permission from these girls before they could watch their scenes, they will refuse to grant blacks a permission. I remember a story about Little Oral Annie who wanted all blacks out of her movie set before she could fuck. By the way, she publicly said she will not work with blacks too. Like usual, people will say that racism has nothing to do with it.
Hannah Westxxx, Ok, we now have another white/mixed female porn star to put on the full of S!@# list!. I must say that the list seems to be growing everyday. Sweetheart, it doesn't bother me that you don't find black men or dark skin for that matter attractive, I understand that it's different strokes for different folks. I've seen you, and you're attractive, but I'm not attracted to you...too thin, no ass, no titties, stroke factor=0. So with that said, we're (black men) not missing out on anything, keep it moving, I'd rather you stay away from IR altogether. I can't believe when the dodgers actually state that they're family would disown them if they did scenes with black men...hold on, so they'll accept you getting Dp'ed, receiving facials, doing atm, cum swapping, rimming, and so on, but if you have sex with a black man, they'll disown you?.GTFOH!...LOL. Now back to the topic, I think that this thread is becoming more heated than ''she won't do black guys'', even though it's absurd, but everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I can remeber a time when we just enjoyed porn without all the BS, but ever since IR..BM/WF porn became popular, racism reared it's ugly head! Edited by - CapitalM on 10/16/2009 6:04:25 PM
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Posted - Oct 16 2009 : 5:38PM
LMAO not trying to say anything but why is it that most dodgers have native american in them? anyway see how i can tell when someone is not white ? i was right about her not being white
PS nothing wrong with being mixed, no problem with that. Edited by - braziliandude on 10/16/2009 5:46:49 PM
Based on what I read, when fans questioned you about working with Ramon, you didn't know he might have black in him and you were saying that he wasn't. And you seemed offended when they kept saying that he was black. Other women who don't work with black men have also worked with Ramon, not knowing that. Since your choice is based on skin tone, would you work with Brian Pumper? In case you don't know him, Brian Pumper is a well known light skinned AA pornstar. He doesn't seem too light in this pic but her here is his profile at iafd :http://www.iafd.com/person.rme/perfid=BrianPumper/gender=m/brian-pumper.htm . I don't think so.
Speak for yourself. As 'shameful' as it may be to many of you, if HW suddenly had a revelation that she has a taste for dark meat, I'd be lining up to stick it in her ass in a NY minute. I kinda hate myself for saying it, but it's true. Similarly, again if she had a revelation that she has a taste for dark meat and started shooting porn with brothers, I'd watch. Now that I think about it, my skin tone isn't all that much darker than Ramon's, and I'm definitely better looking than he is, so maybe I could hit it... sorry my brothers, I might have to abandon you all for a moment and tap that scrumptious, tight little Alabama ass...
And now that I've posted an entire thread about her, I'm going to pull a 180 and try to remind all of you that this isn't the 'question H's statements' thread. If possible, let's all move along (and that includes me).
Killbillvol69, Go right ahead sir...LOL, I can't knock you for being honest, but I'm a meat and potatoes kind of guy, I give bones to my dog. A lot of people ask this question...why are we concerned with women who don't do IR?, when they're so many beautiful, sexy, THICK women that do...so give me Kelly Divine, Kirra Lynne, Austin Taylor, Avy Scott..I'm sure you know where I'm going with this......Ok, lets move on Edited by - CapitalM on 10/16/2009 6:42:20 PM
^ Yup I know what you're saying, and I adore all of those girls, and watch them frequently. Don't get me wrong, I watch lots of BM/BF, BM/WF, WM/BF, WM/WF, or in general XM/XF porn. But I side with you in the sense that even when watching white-on-white, I tend to give more of my attention to some of the girls that show love to the brothers. It's just natural, because I'll see them more often in the stuff I watch, and so I get to know their 'style' better, etc. But not always. I think sometimes maybe it's just a 'grass is greener' kind of thing.
To Hannah After reading your posts on this thread, it’s very clear to me and anyone viewing it that you are racist against Black people. Just admit it and move on. But please don't try to justify and defend your prejudice against African Americans while tying to claim you're not a racist.
Edited by - nora_hot on 10/16/2009 6:57:49 PM
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Posted - Oct 16 2009 : 8:21PM
Says the man that did not register on this forum until after Alex Panzer was deactivated.
“Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards.” - Kierkegaard 2684 Posts 8/09
Posted - Oct 16 2009 : 8:31PM
huh? Who is Alex Panzer? Are you suggesting that I am Alex Panzer?
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Posted - Oct 16 2009 : 8:37PM
that's not the point , i for one look less black than ramon, the thing is that i wouldn't jump on the bandwagon,i wouldn't "stick" anything in her because i don't want any STD's so that's not even a possibility , i wouldn't go anywhere near a girl who does porn. even if she was a just a regular girl she's far from being attractive in my opinion, i wouldn't fuck her when i'm sober lol
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Posted - Oct 16 2009 : 9:50PM
Dude, why do you even visit this site? It's clear from your posts that you have a very low opinion of female porn stars and, indeed, a low opinion of women in general. Your sole interest in porn has nothing at all to do with entertainment. For you, it's all about debasement and control.
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Posted - Oct 16 2009 : 9:53PM
i don't have a low opinion of porn stars but would YOU have sex with a porn actress ? i mean , really ?, even normal women can't be trusted these days let alone a woman who is paid to have sex, not about having a low opinion, it's just reality, my health is more important.
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Minha Vaidade me deixou cansado 351 Posts 8/09
Posted - Oct 16 2009 : 9:57PM
porn is a hobby for me , i love watching porn but i don't want to be part of it or even be involved in porn in any way.
CapitalM I really think that initally the thread had a lot of valid points.. I think that in order for anyone to understand why someone doesn't like black skin, it requires you to simply be more objective and willing to accept a difference in tatse You said yourself, you find me unattractive because I am too thin, I have a small ass, and small tits.. Why is it that this doesn't offend me as much as it offends people when I say I don't find you attractive because your skin is too dark? This is a contradiction. If I discriminate, so do you.. if nothing else admit that. Hot nora: I suppose some will always find it more simple to call a girl a rascist that to actually consider her logic. I'm not upset with that. I'm glad some people can't look outside the box and can keep most topics so simplified and boxed it. I don't feel my mentality lacks a single thing. I enjoy my complicated point of view and I've tried my very best to explain it. Nimrod. You are right, initally I didn't know he was considered "black"... but what I want to be clear about is what has and what will always remain important to me is that i am attracted to lighter skin. I showed up on set, his skin was light.. I fucked him.. i don't care what he's called.. I care what he looks like.. to the person who inially started the thread.. well.. you've now made your point.. There is a lot of pressure and cornering to the girls who won't have sex with black guys.. We are racist and never to be consider a woman with an opinion muchless someone who should have any tatse what so ever.. zero boundaries... It is a constant push.. a horrible box.. and a label.. It's also a very one sided arguement. I think people need to get over history that happened years ago and just accept and swallow the fact that it no longer has to do with hanging people from tress and burning crosses.. I can't be the damn bearer for choices i wasn't even alive to make.. and it can no longer be a crutch for people who too insecure to accept there are differences in preferences.. having native american in me doesn't make me pissed off at white people for pretty much erasing my race.. I wasn't here for all of that.. I've made very valid unacknowledged points.. I've put heart into it.. and I'll forever remain the racist from alabama Killbill.. you will be the very first to know.. and I appreciate your support through all of this, I feel you have always remained objective. Thank you. Edited by - Hannah Westxxx on 10/16/2009 10:13:35 PM
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Posted - Oct 16 2009 : 10:37PM
my last comment regarding HW to everyone saying she's a racist, no, she's not white there is no way she could possibly be a racist,, in order to be racist you need to be WHITE and pure. there are 3 kinds of racists, a TRUE RACIST , VV is a true racist (everyone knows who i'm referring to), karin schubert ( i can mention her name since she's probably dead by now anyway ) was a true racist etc, there is a difference between a racist and a true racist. now talking about racists , i think 90 % of the girls who refuse to work with black men in porn are racist, anette schwarz said 70 % but i'm gonna be a little bit more radical , you never know, so 90 % of them are racist and the other 10 % don't do interracial for other reasons, and then you got dodgers like HW, these non-white dodgers wish they were white so that they could be racist too but they even fail to be white so they're half way there, they're deeply bigoted and prejudiced but they have to deal with the same kind of ignorance for not being white. so true racists = VV , karin schubert .... and the list goes on and on racists = 90 % of all dodgers pseudo-racists = HW and other non-white girls who would be racist if they were white.
FYI, I've actually considered what you attempted to class as logic and it equates to nothing but racism. Your unsuccessful attempts to dress up your racism as 'logic' is laughable and shows something very nasty about your mentality. There are a some well known very 'light skinned' Black performers that have unmistakable Black features like Justin long, Sledgehammer and Shane Diesel who you have no interest in working with. So I can guarantee that you wouldn't have performed with Ramon had you realized he was 'Black'. You worked with Ramon because he does not have the usual Blackman facial features ‘per se’ and looks more Latino. Yes, they are thousands of Black Hispanics. So your B.S about skin tone is nothing but a lame excuse. Just face it, if you ‘knew’ a male performer had a drop of Black blood in him regardless of him being handsome of not, you'd have absolutely NOTHING to do with him. You really have some very deep seated racial issues, don't you?. Yes, you are racist, so go pat yourself on the back.
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Posted - Oct 17 2009 : 12:30AM
No one could possibly believe that, trust me. He's just saying that if you'd been around when Panzer was still here, you might not be so quick to assert that porn fans aren't weirdos. I have to say, I'm surprised by your statement re: this place being "the most thought provoking, intellectually stimulating, and creative writing/debates/discussion anywhere." Go back four, five years, and it actually was kind of like that (it's a shame you weren't around then; I think you would have really enjoyed it). To me, and I think to a lot of the older members (many of whom have unfortunately drifted away), this place has largely turned into the short bus -- and nothing more exemplifies that than the endless stream of these moronic "IR" threads which have been allowed, for reasons which completely escape me, to proliferate here over the last several months.
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Posted - Oct 17 2009 : 12:35AM
So, now you don't think women can be trusted. Lovely. Seriously, dude, you have some major Mommy issues. And, for the record, hell YES I'd have sex with Jenna Haze!
maybe she's not attracted to black features and dark skin, nothing wrong with that, that's not where her logic is flawed , no one can help who they find attractive, the problem with her post is that she said he showed up and wasn't dark-skinned so she fucked him, that means she DID NOT find him attractive she just wasn't repulsed by him, what does that tell you ? yes, that's right , she's repulsed by black men, she doesn't find them unattractive , she finds them disgusting, no matter how you put it someone who feels that way certainly has some racial issues, i don't find asian girls attractive , never did and probably never will, but to say i feel repulsed by them ??, no , i don't think a "normal person" would feel that way , it's one thing not to feel attracted to asian girls but quite another to find them disgusting. like i said, she would definitely be a racist if she was white, nature is fair, you don't see flying snakes or smart lions, so nature didn't give this woman the privilege of being white or even good looking for that matter
Edited by - braziliandude on 10/17/2009 1:08:41 AM
She wouldn't work with those guys. Just like you said even though those guys are light skinned,it's more about "black" features. She reminds me of Felix Vicious . Edited by - Nimrod on 10/17/2009 1:47:40 AM
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Posted - Oct 17 2009 : 2:02AM
You'll never find a whitegirl in porn talking like hannah west about the reasons why they dont do whiteguys, and why they are not attracted to whiteskin, and blah, blah, blah because even the girls in porn that are not attracted to whiteguys do whiteguys, because it is obviously really not their decision to do whom ever they want, if that was true then where are them whitegirls that only do black guys on film? There are some black and latina that does only black guys.... But all other races especially white are on locked by the whiteguys that run the industry. Pressuring women into doing IR askin to rape, Pressuring women into doing whiteguys is askin rape as well then if anybody believes that, because of word of mouth(where noone seems to listen to it.) but I hear it when pornstars have came on here and have said on blogs that agencies have told them either not to do IR or into much of it or not early in their career.(it already been proven it doesnt hurt your career.) That to me sounds like the folks in the industry doesnt want to see a whitegirl in porn that only does black guys and become a big star out of it, because Jean Afrique did.(even though she mostly performed with ray victory.) Blaming the pornstars is something I still object to even the ones that do do it out of racism, because I still dont see the need to want a racist to do IR. Or even mention them, I dont even know who half of the pornstars who dont do black men are, because I watch interracial, but Im starting to see that racism IS INDEED a problem in this industry, but the biggest problem is that alot of people seem to not recognize that is mostly coming from people who run the industry. Alot of people seem to not be connecting the dots here. Has anyone realize that there are girls in the industry who have expressed their preferences to black men, but none of them does black men only like the girls that do white men only. Now either they are full of it, or the more reasonable thing is that they are pressure into doing white men, but the only thing that pressure is in the form of money because whiteguys in the industry has it so the pressure is easy, but it still makes them wrong because they just dont want to except a whitegirl doing only IR. And I believe 100% that they have had whitegirls come to the industry wanting to ONLY do black men no matter what, didnt mind making the money from doing IR porn, ect. But I believe they either pressured them or turned them down. Because if anyone read on valerie luxe's blog she said on there that she has only been with black men for the 10 years before entering the industry, and all of a sudden she is doing whiteguys. I wish their was like a hidden camera deal of a whitegirl asking to only do black guys and then we can all see the truth that comes out of that. And these threads will be more on the people who runs the industry than the performers.
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Posted - Oct 17 2009 : 2:38AM
All you guys have made some good valid points on this forum except for a few people like Hanna West. I will never watch or buy any of dvds of Hanna West, ever!!! She makes way too many poor exuses why she won't fuck black guys. Like Nora Hot says, just admit that you are a racists and move on. You're just making stupid exuses that gets you in a deeper hole you can't climb out. I think a lot of porn stars need to confess to that. Speak the truth and it will set you free.
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Posted - Oct 17 2009 : 2:43AM
You live in Amerikka buddy. As long this sick society lives on we'll always have racisms. So get used to seeing these kind of threads, because it's going to keep going, until this society changes it's way. Porn reflex our sick racist society, period.
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Minha Vaidade me deixou cansado 351 Posts 8/09
Posted - Oct 17 2009 : 7:51AM
sorry man but i've never seen a girl who's not attracted to white men just like i've never seen guys who are not attracted to white girls, just stating facts here, white is the only race everyone is attracted to, you'll see people who don't find blacks attractive, people who don't find asians attractive, indians or whatever race, but people who don't find whites attractive is something i haven't seen yet.
Hanna was making herself sound even more ridiculous trying to defend and apply 'logic' to racism. She just kept digging herself into a hole and highlighted to everyone reading this thread how dumb and stupid racist people really are. Trying to justify and apply logic to racism is like trying to apply logic to pedophilia.
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Posted - Oct 17 2009 : 8:25AM
I am glad this is the case. Thanks for the clarification.I not saying a person doesn't have to slalom threads and search for gems sometimes, but its my experience so far. Its too bad some of the regulars have bolted though. Thanks for the info.
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Posted - Oct 17 2009 : 9:04AM
I won't make such a derogatory accusation unless you start posting drawings of enema tanks (tanks as in Abrams, not septic), enema torture dungeons, and enema fortresses.
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Posted - Oct 17 2009 : 9:55AM
No offence meant, but creepy is in the eye of the beholder. Years ago, when porn was big in theaters, I lived in an apartment that looked out on the parking lot of a theater that ran adult flicks. Every friday, when the title changed, here came hizzoner our mayor, suitably raincoated, even on the sunniest of days, slinking up to the box office with furtive glances and collar up. No child molester ever looked more the part.
Unlike what most people think it's not just the industry. The girls have a lot do with it.
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Posted - Oct 17 2009 : 1:32PM
Honestly, supa, I really think this is just an issue of economic realities. A girl gets into porn to make money. Simply turning her back on all the white-on-white bookings she could get would really hit her pocket book. I just don't see that many girls taking a hard "blacks only" stand and foregoing all that business. On the other hand, it is possible to take a "no blacks" policy if you are popular enough because the white-on-white bookings will not dry up as fast. Missing the IR sector in this case doesn't really hit them in the pocketbook.
"like i said, she would definitely be a racist if she was white, nature is fair, you don't see flying snakes or smart lions, so nature didn't give this woman the privilege of being white or even good looking for that matter" I can understand you feeling insulted and disrespected by her racism. Completely understandable. Yet you're acting like a massive shit. Every chance you get, you slip in a jab about her appearance or, in a most perverse fashion, bring up the fact that she has Native American blood running through her veins. You revel in that fact, don't you? As to there being no flying snakes or smart lions, I find that idea to be absurd. http://www.flyingsnake.org/ http://www.snopes.com/photos/animals/christian.asp
^ I gotta go w/ SunShowers on this one. Like I said a few of my posts ago, there is a lot of inappropriate behaviour going on lately in this thread in terms of 'getting too personal'. The insults and such have to stop. Thanks.
WTF? Why are people still talking about attraction in porn? Attraction has nothing to do with it. *****The Dr. of Nasty*****
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Posted - Oct 17 2009 : 5:02PM
I noticed that too. The culprits (and they know who they are) are doing it in an attempt to get the thread shut down - Which would suck since this thread provides the only rebuttal to the countless other threads demanding that women perform interracial.
fantastic. A thanks to everyone who is objective. .. and for those who actually READ instead of assuming .. oh and on the subject of having native american in my blood.. um it's not like my father or my mother is 100% my grandparents aren't even 100% I don't think the majority of whites in america are all white.. For all I know I'm mixed with a lot of things.. so i'm a mut? and? BUT unlike some I'm not offended about who I am and if people will fuck for due to nationally.. not that insecure about it.. Take five people who won't fuck me and i'll find 15 who would.. and I'm sure everyone can say the same. It's okay if some don't find me beautiful. I can embrace that. Hell, I can even relate.. I never said I was the greatest cheesecake in the factory. What's improtant is I have enough confidence to survive.. and enough knowledge to know somebody, somewhere DOES find me attractive.. and it's okay with me if that isn't you.. what the hell do I have to be ashamed or offended about? NOT A GODDAMN THING
[Image not found DB] I invite you to join the mentality of being physically SECURE about who YOU are and those who might not be attracted to you. Including ALMOST white people Gosh, it's just never felt as good as now to say fuck you.. ..so very liberating I'm so glad this conversation happened
Edited by - Hannah Westxxx on 10/17/2009 5:58:16 PM
The discussion has been civil so far even though two guys are being a little too harsh.
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Minha Vaidade me deixou cansado 351 Posts 8/09
Posted - Oct 17 2009 : 5:49PM
the worst thing about this thread is the moronic title, no offense, i mean why bring up something as heavy as rape when talking about completely unrelated issues? Edited by - braziliandude on 10/17/2009 5:54:40 PM
Posted - Oct 16 2009 : 4:45PM
