I Know. What's the Point of Being Naked in the Beginning? Where's the Build Up? I compare it to Superhero Movies, You don't have the Main Explosion/Action Fight Immediately for a Reason, You have a Build Up to it.
- Interracial as some sort of taboo category - Racism in porn (and there is only the bad kind) - Too many ladies going all blonde ambition (brunettes and dark haired beauties are hot too folks!) - Too many fake tits (just look at Jenna Haze and Tori Black - small breasts can be sexy as Hell too) - Too many agents giving porn performers horrific career advice - Too many people going into porn who are not much fun to watch having sex (dilution of the quality)
At the end of the day, it is what it is. 629 Posts 12/09
Posted - Oct 2 2010 : 8:46AM
Considering the success of strip clubs and the fact that so many starlets make more money at strip clubs than doing scenes, you would think porn producers would have a clue.
Not a shred of evidence exists in favor of the idea that life is serious - Brendan Gill 723 Posts 4/09
Posted - Oct 2 2010 : 9:07PM
Really? A stereotype that's as erroneus as saying all blacks eat watermelon, and is derived from white racist promulgated lies about black men having uncontrollable sex drives that would make them rape white women if they weren't kept in there place? It may be racism that some black men no longer object to and it certainly does the porn business no harm, but it is racist stereotyping at its worst, and, in its original context, a racism that was responsible for more than a few lynchings of innocent black men who were often "caught" or only accused of no more than looking at a white woman. As for what harm it does to the black man today, I can imagine its part of the package of stereotypes that some bigots use to suggest that blacks are only good for sports and IR porn, or that more than one black man who is averagely endowed feels inadequate and inferior because of the nonsense that "black guys have big dicks".
Disliking things in porn, or things generally, often comes down to either 'too much of' or 'not enough of'. In feature porn: not enough decent plot/narrative; sex scenes being too short; bad sound quality. In gonzo porn: too much badly edited mindless pounding; "oh my god, fuck me, yes, yes, fuck me, oh my god..." ad nauseam. Generally: too much run-of-the-mill product; directors/studios churning out endless 'same old same old'; performers 'phoning it in'. Specifically: not enough good quality pussy eating; too much formulaic RC(A); not enough sensuous BJs; too much guy jerking himself off; not enough legs spread apart, come and fuck me, mish; too much spitting; lesbian scenes either being too tame or too nasty - not enough Goldilicks. Everywhere: Crap music.
Things I dislike about porn: bolt-ons collagen lips and excessive make-up bts footage compilation dvd's vivid video the trend of stuntcocks competing to be as pretty as the chicks designating the term porn star to anyone who's done five scenes or more japanese pixelation flowery europorn cum dodgers bad tats and c-section scars amateur porn that has professionals in every scene parody porn crying fanbois
Sorry that I'm beating on a few dead horses, but I find it easier to think of them as 'zombie horses'. 1. Movie titles that perpetuate negative stereotypes about IR sex. ie. "Oh No! There's a Negro In My Daughter" "Ghetto _____". 2. The words on a box cover "2-disc special edition". Like there is regular edition :) 3. Girls that won't do IR but will fuck Ramon even even though he looks black because fortunately he has some Spanish blood. 4. The fact that Digital Playground centers (often literally, just look at the pictures) practically every one of their major releases around one girl. Guess who it is. 5. When you go to a porn site and try to leave it says something like "Wait, a "live agent" wants to talk to you about more savings you'll get if you join". Really??? :) 6. Vivid's argument that they are an equal opportunity employer using Heather Hunter as the example. 7. I don't usually call names but I gotta say that I was offended by the racist bullshit spewed by Hannah West back months ago. I don't like it when girls are insulted for not doing IR or not having done many IR (i.e Kristina Rose) but when Hannah got reamed I enjoyed it. 8. Probably grossest porn act ever: Drinking cum out of the ass. The lack of scenes where the guy comes in the girl's mouth without pulling out. Am I the only one that finds those hot? 9. The ridiculous number of tube sites. Its not so bad having a few mosquitoes draining some blood from the industry but now its become like vampires. 10. Geriatric porn. I happen to believe that memory loss, high susceptibility to injury, and full dependence on viagra are God's way of telling us its time to hang it up or at least to do it behind closed doors after a checkup from a qualified physician.
Gravity as Curved Space: Bootymeister's Theory of General Relativity 1589 Posts 11/08
Posted - Oct 6 2010 : 1:10PM
I agree totally, for almost 30 years. Vanessa Del Rio did it occasionally in her earlier scenes, but the industry standard of totally external pops dominates. Personally, cumming in the mouth with PCH is the only reason I will not cum in the pussy. IMO, the hottest porn consists of the stuff (or girls) you really like doing, but can not get enough of in real life under acceptable terms.
Faked CREAMPIEs. Yeah sure everyone has a 1/2Cup of snow-white cream pour out of a pussy when they unplug. The dead giveaway is the scene goes away and returns just as the guy cums
^That's a great way to promote your site, although I don't like your content. Anyway, that shows the breadth of dislike of fake moaning, from a male fan of mostly bjs and lez to a female performer of prolapsed anal.
I hate the casual violence against women seen in some movies - not the stuff that's in the BDSM etc genres but the spitting on her, grabbing by the throat, choking and so on. Some of the male performers seem to specialise in being nasty to the females. Horrible and I won't watch it.
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+1 I do like intense performances, anal, DPs and various versions of pushing the limits - some Christoph Clarke movies are among my favourites. But pushing limits in terms of energy, stamina and a sense of naughtiness or a woman's lasciviousness or insatiability isn't the same as humiliation and violence. I love to see a woman throw herself into sex with wanton abandon; I hate to see her abused.
It doesn't really matter how many pornographers read this. We vote with our wallets. Money talks and bullshit walks. With online shopping we can take the time to research thoroughly instead of deciding just by what's on the cover.
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On the licking stick, Mr. Magic Dick! 3309 Posts 2/09
Posted - Oct 8 2010 : 1:22AM
Hate to break the news to you, but the majority of the black guys in porn do have big dicks.
I hate when a guy sucks at fucking. Like, to a point where you know you could be doing a better job. It makes the scene shit and then you really think about when the girl is acting.
I could go on and on but here are a few easy ones; 1. Girls who're faking it 2. Guys who can't keep it up 3. Cum shots on ass cheeks, tummy, pubic hair/area, feet 4. Scenes when you can tell when the girl is not enjoying it 5. Rough scenes like Cruel Media and a lot of the Euro Web stuff, pretty girls being mistreated 6. Stunning Girls who only do girl girl (Ariel X) 7. Jay Sin films, repeat and rinse, repeat and rinse 8. Prolapse scenes, huge messy painful looking gaping 9. Guys who shoot tiny loads 10. Gang bangs with more than 3 guys to 1 girl 11. Girls who get get tit jobs when they don't need them 12. Girls with tit jobs who need them fixed (Gina Lynn, Lisa Ann come to mind and Lisa is one of my top 5) 13. Girls in their 20s being classed as MILFs for the sake of the title 14. Old porn stars who won't go away (Shayla LaVuex) 15. Scenes when there is clearly no chemistry 16. Scenes with no pussy eating 17. The Brazilian girl flavor of the month porn 18. Private being too plot oriented (Gladiator etc) 19. Porn stars that are just plain ugly 20. Starlets who just disappear, Chayse Evans, Stephanie Sage and Gianna :'( That'll do 21. Jenna Jameson Version 10.2 or whatever she's up to now 22. Bile being regurgitated due to deep throating 23.Scenes that run 60mins that would've been perfect at 45mins
I cant bear watching titty fcking beyond the smallest interval of time. It does absolutely nothing for me and the male actors also dont appear to like it. Theres a lot of nice BBW /big tits videos I would gladly watch, were it not for the agonizingly long titty fcking scenes. Another thing which ruins these genres is the constant use of oil.
Thank you! I hate it too. Even when the tits are real it gets real old real fast. And they just keep going. It might be awesome to do in RL but watching it is like watching grass grow.
Position and camera angle matter in titfucking, but generally I find it more watchable than most of the vag and anal in porn with long shots of just a dick in a hole.
i hate bored pornographers that do things like double anal, face fucking, gross blowbangs with a dozen guys stroking next to each other, or cum on each other accidentally because they simply dont give a shit about normal human sex life anymore. i also hate how many ignorant people in the industry already forgot that porn / sex should be ultimately about a perfect fantasy girl that makes you go mad and cum, definitely not the other way round, where guys fuck the shit out of some totally passive, lazy, bored slag and in the end you watch a guy quietly jerk off for two minutes to finish because the girl obviously cant make him finish herself. I am no soft-core fag but for me the sex-appeal of a porn scene is more in the attitude, facial expression, eye contact and activity of a girl, in feeling she wants to please the guy and make him cum, rather than showing off what she can stick up her ass or if she can lie on her back for 40 minutes before she kneels down, closes her eyes and waits for a facial :) Oh and I also hate all those douchebag directors/producers that put themselves on the dvd cover or write a self-bio celebrating their amazing lighting and camera skills or original style. come on guys, you shoot POV in your bedroom, in 99% cases, "a nutless monkey could do your job". Edited by - eatthatyellowsnow on 10/11/2010 12:58:37 AM
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Posted - Oct 11 2010 : 1:20AM
Cowgirl shot from the female P.O.V. and not the guy's The BEST part of Cowgirl in "real life" is seeing her facial reax and her breasts sawying and in front of your face so you can suck them and seeing her grinding on your cock. YET WE NEVER GET TO SEE THAT IN PORN AND I HATE IT! If I wanted to see th guy's cock I'd rent a Gay Porn flick. I want to see HER face and front side - SO SHOW IT TO ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Biggest gripe - even bigger than the guy moaning "I'm cumming" and then we see him jerk off his cock for 60 seconds when he just told us a second ago he was cumming!
Not a shred of evidence exists in favor of the idea that life is serious - Brendan Gill 723 Posts 4/09
Posted - Oct 11 2010 : 10:41AM
Yes, it was. You're the one not paying attention, because the issue was ALL black guys having big dicks and OF COURSE they don't. Porn performers, black or white, are hardly a representative sample of penis size for their race. The black guy/big dick nonsense is a stereotype, like saying all blacks are lazy or they're all good at sports. Some stereotypes, such as the big dick thing MAY have arisen from actual observation being etrapolated to an entire group. A great many blacks may have larger genitals and some people therefore assume that they all do. But that still makes it a racial stereotype and it still has no basis in fact.
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On the licking stick, Mr. Magic Dick! 3309 Posts 2/09
Posted - Oct 11 2010 : 12:17PM
^ yeah yeah yeah, Sterotypes, blah blah blah. Let me correct myself, the black guys in porn all have big dicks. They're the only black dicks I see on a regular occaision and were the only ones to which I was refering. I apologize for making you write your sterotype rant. [mod edit: quote removed] Edited by - killbillvol69 on 10/11/2010 4:54:46 PM
I cant stand gagging. I know theres a niche market for it but it seems like its in every release. Its not erotic or sexy to me and it just gets repetitive after a while. Porn is great now, but at the same time the one thing the older releases had had the girls giving great head, you just don't see that as much. I want to see girls get creative and show their skills, not some dude ramming the girls head into his cock. Anything that showcases the girls more I'm all for.
i love porn as a medium, unfortunatelly it typically attracts a lot of banal idiots both in front and behind the camera, who decide how porn looks like nowadays :) maybe its too easily accessible compared to the golden era movie productions that required at least some erotic quality or innovation to make another flick, nowadays you watch bored white-trash girls getting pounded on a couch like a dead piece of meat for 40 minutes, starting with a bj and ending in a passive facial, 5 times a week, maybe one scene out of ten is anyhow original/possible to remember sexually. Edited by - eatthatyellowsnow on 10/12/2010 8:48:28 AM
(1) Parody Porn (2) Girlbangs, no "Lesbian Bukkakes" nor any F-to-M ratios greater than 2 to 1. (3) Scenes not ending in facials/swallowing. Occasional creampie is okay but not preferred. (4) Girls clearly not enjoying themselves / in it for the money. The ones who just lay there. (5) Girls who give it the ol college try and don't get more than the tip in their mouth. If you can't really suck dick, maybe porn isn't for you. Not common in the industry, but I occasionally do see it. (6) DPP. DP I am okay with. DP does not induce homophobic thoughts into my head, but DPP is LITERALLY cock on cock and that does start to turn me off. Furthermore, DPP is a stunt thing for girls who won't do anal but want to do something beyond the standard B/G. (7) Romantic porn. If I wanted romantic sex, I'll take my girlfriend out. Some of Hustler's scenes are on the softer side and are a little too lovey dovey. (8) Girls dropping off the face of the earth suddenly from the industry. (9) Excessive male grunting/moaning. (10) Repetitive scenarios on sites/DVD series. EX of doing this: Massage Girls / Fucked Hard. SAME exact thing EVERYTIME. EX of not doing this: Real Ex-Girlfriends: Mixes it up how the girl and guy are hanging out, where they're doing it. Oh. AND CUMDODGERS. Edited by - Sugarcultaru on 10/12/2010 10:39:53 AM
In those days you had to know how to operate a 35mm camera and you had to think about the scenes because wasted film was wasted. Plus there wasn't as much cash in the scene as there is no (so I've read) 'cos the audience wasn't as big and so you had to be a bit more careful. These days anyone can operate a digicam (and does), wasted film is a gone concept and so the only thing you can easily waste money on is time, although if you pay talent by the day, well...
I cannot stand POV movies. They suck. Especially the ones done by directors as an excuse to get laid by the talent (i.e. Mike John, Jake Malone, Jules Jordan, Chris Streams, etc). Now maybe if the female directors did some I'd change my mind.
Absolutely agree. Another thing I absolutely hate is when a guy gets this weird facial expression like Mick Blue always gets in his scenes: It's like watching a guy getting a heart-attach and not having sex. It's a total turn-off if you see a girl all enjoying herself and the guy looking like he's about to pass out/die.
The sycophants on this group who praise and drool over the mediocrity of lumpy breast implants, grovel over fat cellulite ridden asses, MILFS ten years past their sell date and all the other outrages that continues to clutter the aisles with shitty porn. Now I truly understand why the industry writes the porn consumer off as "mooks". lol
Not a shred of evidence exists in favor of the idea that life is serious - Brendan Gill 723 Posts 4/09
Posted - Oct 13 2010 : 3:18PM
I believe the qustion is, what do you dislike about porn? NOT what do you dislike about porn's customers or the people on this forum. And by the evidence of this thread, one could understand if the industry wrote us off as impossible to please, but not necessarily as "mooks".
^^^^No this whole mindset of uncritical devotion is the cause of so much terrible porn. I may be extremely critical but I also am as effusive of what and who I like in porn and appreciate when others make their case and not just blindly slobber over pornstarlets, producers, labels etc. I especially bristle at all the "ass kissing" that goes on meant to suck up to girls who post here. Sorry, but the love over Shawna Lenee's terrible boobjob set me over the edge. Her nipples are cross eyed. And this goes for all the other "good boob jobs". Breasts should not be perfectly round and over inflated. It's like spotting a bad toupee. The artifice is distracting
Gravity as Curved Space: Bootymeister's Theory of General Relativity 1589 Posts 11/08
Posted - Oct 13 2010 : 6:58PM
Brilliant post!!! I agree 100%. Porn producers are not at all concerned that customers are hard to please. Porn producers have been celebrating how porn customers are so patheticly easy to please.