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Aya
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Posted - Oct 19 2017 : 10:16PM
^At the very least, it's a good way to test out talent before bringing them to GirlsWay. The other weird thing is Nuru Massage under the same umbrella that does occasional G/G content.
hasquaati
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Posted - Oct 20 2017 : 6:51PM
Hi its been a while since I last posted.
I wanted to ask with the movie "AI: Artificial Intelligence" i've noticed that on the Girlsway website (which I subscribe to) there is only 3 scenes plus the BTS. On gamelink there are 4 scenes.
I am thinking of buying the download from gamelink, just for the last scene. Before I did I wanted to know if maybe I have missed something.
Do Studios sometimes only put scenes in DVD's or Movies (downloadable) and not put them on their subscription websites?
Thanks guys.
Harry
MorganKane
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Posted - Oct 20 2017 : 7:26PM
^The 4th scene you see on Gamelink has nothing to do with AI. AI only had 3 scenes so you haven't missed anything. I'm guessing they added the 4th scene so that they could release AI on DVD.
pat362
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Posted - Oct 20 2017 : 10:09PM
I know at this point I'm sort of beating a dead horse but I think that if a studio is going to choose to make a scenario driven porn series that supposedly has some kind of connecting thread than the least they can do is actually not completely fuck it up as well fucking up the sex scenes.
1-Why is Shyla's character outside (again) at the beginning of the video when it has nothing to do with the rest of the scene?
*It hasn't added anything to the different vignettes up to now and frankly all the footage could have been used in the first video and it wouldn't affect to the overall story.
2-Why add another performer to this already character filled mess by having a scene involving Angela White?
*Instead of having a scene with Angela they could simply have re-used Melissa Moore, Georgia Jones or Carter Cruise again? She literarily adds nothing to the story and she dies at the end of the scene.
3-The acting and dialogue is still horrendous but seeing as none of it has been any good up to now then it's not like i was expecting it to be good
4-Why shoot a sex scene in a hallway when it means that you automatically lose two possible shooting angles?
*God if only it had been only two possible shooting angles but no. What we get instead is a lot of static tripod mounted shots intermix with zoom and pan shots that feel like they were edited with somebody who hadn't slept in three days and was staying awaked by consuming Redbull like water.
I understand the limitations porn producers work under and maybe this is one of those scenario driven porn stories that should never have been attempted but I think once you have decided that you are going to do this than make sure you do a half decent job of it. This is not what half a decent job looks like.
 
Shadow115
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Posted - Oct 21 2017 : 1:53AM
I certaintly appreciate Girlsway trying, and at least they frequently update (unlike several other G/G sites that used to be good), but man, some of these stories are cheeseball-tastic.
Eva93
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Posted - Oct 21 2017 : 11:29AM
^^ To be honest, I think your critique of Angela being cast here isn't quite fair. It's more on the fault of the script not making her feel as important as she should be than just her being in it. There should have been more foreshadowing that there was an "ultimate vampire" as it were and something the characters should fear in previous episodes and that wasn't done at all outside of a few mentions in the first scene. So what in theory was likely imagined to have been a logical and important reveal on a character basis didn't click as intended. However, as odd as it may seem, I'd rather a site try a concept that isn't typical porn fair and fail rather than either not try at all or just play it safe with a concept we've seen before. Sure, this didn't turn out to be ideal in execution, but there are plenty of things that can be learned from it both good and bad. As an overall concept, this was too big for what could be realistically done. While the story has many flaws, the core of it made sense (young girl gets turned into a vampire and has to find a way to change back), which is more than I can say for Missing and Project Pandora. Moving forward, casting for acting ability and role fit above name value on these types of projects will have to be done better. Like I said earlier, the material didn't really give Angela, Serena, Melissa, and Georgia much to work with but they've all shown in the past that they can do the kind of roles they were given here. But after watching part 4, I feel like Jelena as the evil older woman's played out at this point, Abi desperately needed more room to either ad-lib or give her character more humor, there's literally nothing more that can be said about how bad of an actress Shyla is, and it's obvious the only reason she was cast was so they could have a scene with the two GOTY's. I'm a sucker for cheesy special effects in porn, and this had that in spades.
aclayfan All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Oct 21 2017 : 12:26PM
I support GW take chances with these bigger projects. It's a touch of the golden age of porn with the expected weak scripts & acting. At worse, you are left with some pretty good sex scenes. This is the case with Vampires. It didn't work as a story, but nothing was lost. I found the sex scenes OK. Try again guys and I suggest centering the story on one main character. Follow the formula of a showcase movie, but she's in character with the addition of a plot. Don't get lost in side stories & characters. Give the viewer the adventures of Miss Wide Eyed Innocence. Just cast the lead well and roll the cameras. It will be easier on all of us.
Aya
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Posted - Oct 22 2017 : 12:56AM
It's interesting how when it's all said and done, it looks like there will only be 1 feature this year, on which the feedback hasn't been too hot. I wonder if that will affect things going forward. Anyways, Lena Anderson is back already after her debut in Tie-Breaker Orgasm with Scarlett Sage, and Elsa Jean who with this scene has now joined the GirlsWay 10-Timers club.
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Edited by - Aya on 10/22/2017 5:01:05 AM
Edited by - Aya on 10/24/2017 1:33:46 AM
locc
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Posted - Oct 22 2017 : 1:38AM
Evil stepmother have to be my favorite lesbian scene of all time which made me sign up. I've seen clips and enjoyed it and decided to take a chance and watch it I'm always a fan of hardcore sex but this time decided to watch a few lesbians scene cause of my gf. The funny thing was I was never a fan of any of these girls except for Jelena who I kept watching these last years but I love the idea of her as an evil stepmother something about her make me think she is evil... in a good way. Cinderella getting pushed around by her evil stepsisters and mother. The scene fuffil my fantasy it was everything I wanted but more. AJ Applegate hot as hell but never appeal to me in that way until she "Cinderella" Mia Malkova also a hot chick but she doesn't Appeal to me as much to, still the chemistry between the two was hot. What's mind blowing and are currently my favorite are Katrina Jade and Georgia Jones. I'm a sucker for incest loving sisters (step) lol the way they act was very believable and I love it. They fought physically and sexually! While evil mom directed. I love the tease between all 3 of them I'm happy there was a spin-off I hope there will be more of these 3 in the future together. I wouldn't mind buying the dvd or blue ray! If anyone knows if there other scenes similar please let me know? I'm a newbie with the site lol
PornStarNamedBuckNaked All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Oct 22 2017 : 2:13PM
^ You've got a lot of great Georgia Jones scenes to watch. Have fun!
SP_Love
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Posted - Oct 22 2017 : 5:43PM

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Elsa Jean has a spectacular vagina.
It's gigantic for such a tiny woman.


"Twist Your Head Around; It's All Around You"

PornStarNamedBuckNaked All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Oct 22 2017 : 6:08PM
^ I don't know if telling a woman that she has a gigantic vagina is the positive message you think it is.....
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Edited by - PornStarNamedBuckNaked on 10/22/2017 6:14:27 PM
SP_Love
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Posted - Oct 22 2017 : 6:28PM
^

It's definitely a compliment.
I'm not talking about the size of the vaginal canal as I have never personally been inside of her.
I am talking about her glorious and delicious looking labia.
Good gawd I'd lick, suck and nibble on that for hours!
"Twist Your Head Around; It's All Around You"
Edited by - love on 10/22/2017 6:30:49 PM
pat362
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Posted - Oct 22 2017 : 7:52PM
^Don't take this badly but I don't think this one is much better than the previous one.
On that note your posts remind me of a joke from Predators.
-Last night I was going down on my girlfriend and I said.
-Gee you've got a big pussy.
-Gee you have a big pussy.
-She asked me why I said it twice.
-I said I didn't.
 
SP_Love
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Posted - Oct 22 2017 : 8:10PM
^
lol
You guys can take it how ever you want.
I still love larger than average pussy lips and clits; gives you a lot to play with.

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Starry Eyes
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Aya
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Posted - Oct 23 2017 : 11:30PM
^Hopefully Lily doesn't become one of those who only appear in a back-to-back 2-parter and then disappear.
Anyways, Cadey Mercury is an up and comer in the G/G world and is paired with Carter Cruise for All Girl Massage in The Yoni Trainer. Hopefully a Girlsway debut is also coming soon.
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matchmaker
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Posted - Oct 24 2017 : 2:07AM
^Thanks for the link to the clip!
tintintin
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Posted - Oct 24 2017 : 6:42AM
Yeah I agree with you... There is nothing wrong with statix tripod shots and pan-shots .. but I really miss some good close-up filming.
Close-up is nog only hot picturewise. The viewer can hear the breathing, licking and whsipering of the actors.
I really wish Girlsway tried some good real closeups in stead of zoom in
Argetlam
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Posted - Oct 24 2017 : 11:44AM
I would like to see new faces like Natasha Nice, Tori Black, Prinzzess, Lily Love...
And Elle Alexandra, Jayden Cole or Julia Ann again :)
Edited by - Argetlam on 10/24/2017 11:45:51 AM
Starry Eyes
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Posted - Oct 24 2017 : 1:00PM
^I would love to see Tori Black on Girlsway. But, who knows if she'll even shoot for LesbianX again.
locc
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Posted - Oct 24 2017 : 7:32PM
thanks have to check them out. I love the story based themes they are hilarious and sexy!
Edited by - locc on 10/24/2017 8:43:16 PM
Aya
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Posted - Oct 24 2017 : 7:38PM
^^Tori Black, Prinzzess, Elle Alexandra? If we're naming girls who have 0 chance of being on the site for various reasons, then I'd love to see Malena Morgan, Emily Addison, Samantha Ryan, and Raven Rockette.
lurkerbrah
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Posted - Oct 24 2017 : 9:30PM
^ Princezz is exclusive to GFF right?
 
Shadow115
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Posted - Oct 24 2017 : 10:44PM
Why does Elle have 0 chance?
Aya
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Posted - Oct 24 2017 : 11:33PM
^^Yeah she is. ^Because she's retired indefinitely.
Edited by - Aya on 10/25/2017 4:09:52 AM
Shadow115
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Posted - Oct 25 2017 : 12:51AM
I guess she didn't "heart girls" that much after all.
Eva93
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Posted - Oct 25 2017 : 12:52AM
Like I said in the other thread, that isn't information she put out publicly so it really shouldn't be talked about here.
fringster
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Posted - Oct 25 2017 : 3:00PM
I'm gonna go and say Keisha Grey will be GOTM November.
Wuggle1616
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Posted - Oct 25 2017 : 6:13PM
The new Dream Pairings is up it's called Co-Captain. From what i can make out from the trailer it definitely looks like Elsa Jean is one of the performers but i can't make out who the other two girls are anybody got any ideas? However if it is Elsa and she does become GOTM i think it is well deserved she has done quite a lot of scenes as of late and i think every scene she has been in on Girlsway has got better and better.
Aya
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Posted - Oct 25 2017 : 9:13PM
^I agree Elsa has really stepped up her game lately and is a strong candidate. Keisha Grey has also been doing a lot with Girlsway lately and is contender. Despite the drama, I could also see Lana Rhoades getting the nod. And dare I say I wouldn't be totally shocked if they rewarded Darcie Dolce's loyalty and with a nod either. And Carter Cruise has also been putting in work ever since going G/G only.
Eva93
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Posted - Oct 25 2017 : 10:12PM
^ Carter's said she has no interest in being a GOTM/Treat/Angel for any studio, which makes sense since at this point she just shoots for fun/money and focuses all her promotion into her DJ career. I love Carter but honestly when was the last time she promoted one her scenes? Even if she was interested I don't think a studio would have her be an ambassador since she doesn't do that. I know who it is (one of the co-stars tweeted a pic from set in these outfits so it kind of spoiled the surprise) but I'd have to say the way the scene reactions have been lately, it'd be a shock to me if Melissa Moore isn't GOTM for either December or January. It's really hard to compare models there due to the time factor, but her average likes per scene this year is beating out the majority of other GOTM winners this year.
Eliza Jane (the only model I can remember getting an immediate response like she has was Kristen Scott), Scarlett Sage, Rebel Lynn (now that she's back), Brandi Love (can't not factor in the idea of her being in the contract being in play), Gia Paige, Adria Rae, Elsa, Mindi Mink, Gina Valentina, and Karlee Grey are all ahead of Darcie on who they'd pick for GOTM since I've noticed the tide with the membership lately has really turned on her with how bad Darcie's performances have been. I kind of thought Lana would be GOTM for February next year to capitalize on AVN buzz (if she won POTY or another big award and people saw her twitter banner for GW, it'd definitely drive subs), but the whole incident threw a wrench in that theory.
erolixxx
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Posted - Oct 26 2017 : 3:55AM
^
Thanks for the insights about Carter, Eva. I had no idea and with the number of scenes she's filming for Girlsway, I thought it was just a matter of time to get a GOTM place.
Completely agree with your list. Melissa Moore should have the last spot for this year's list and she would be a solid Top 3 contender in the GOTY voting (probably behind Georgia and Kristen).
Can we take a moment and appreciate just how good Scarlett Sage has been since she returned? She's doing so great! And I loved the (not so) new look.
As a personal favorite and as someone who has a long history with Girlsway, I'd also add Veronica Rodriguez as a potential GOTM for next year. As a G/G only, I hope we can see her more often next year!
Aya
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Posted - Oct 26 2017 : 6:15AM
And the latest All Girl Massage scene is...whoops, I meant the newest Girlsway scene is The Oil Shoot with Vanessa Veracruz and Serena Blair. 2 of the top G/G only performers covered in oil and Tribbing? Yes Please!
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scarlettsagelov
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Posted - Oct 26 2017 : 8:03AM
i dont like girlsway scenes. there is too much talking and story and less sex. i am not interested in girls talking and story.i watch gg for the sex. vampires scenes are all about story and more than half of the scenes are about talking and sex is very bad. the scene of today of vanessa and serena is of 40 minutes and almost 30 are of only talking and this is ridicoulous. i dont like serena blair,georgia jones,eliza jane,melissa moore,lily labeau,celeste star. in this moment for the best gg performer is Scarlett sage. she does everything in a gg. she is aggressive but in a sexy way, she Always smiles,she holds eye contact with the girls, she Always kisses girls,touches,licks and sucks every kind of tits(from small to big)she eats pussies like no other ,she scissors in the best way. i think also that stillbyalan is the worst director. he doesnt know how to film. he puts the camera in a place and he doesnt move from there,he doesnt make us see anything. he puts the camera at 90° respect the girls and you cant see anything. cameramen should move together the girls, films the scene from different angles and not stay immobile. i mean a girl is licking the pussy like the scene of today in a massage table, dont film it at 90° but you should put behind the girls who has the pussy licked and film the pussy ,eyes and tongue of the girl who is licking. the best directors are those of girlfriend and realitykings(even if it does only 1 scene a week and with unkwnown girls and not so good). i saw the nurumessage scene with angela White and kristen scott. what a waste of scene. 0 seconds of titty sucking with those huge and beautiful tits is ridicoulous. i dont know if it was fault of director who doesnt like titty sucking or of kristen scott but this kind of scenes with girls with huge tits and no titty sucking are useless. for this i would like to see a gg with angela White and Scarlett sage i couldnt imagine what Scarlett can do with those breasts. i dont like lesbianx scenes. they are only anal,toys and strap on scenes. i hate that scenes end with girls who are still kissing and making out. comeon kissing is the best and the most exciting part of a gg scene and you Always cut kisses.
Aya
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Posted - Oct 26 2017 : 8:11AM
^ If you know you don't like Girlsway scenes, why are you still watching them?
scarlettsagelov
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Posted - Oct 26 2017 : 8:47AM
There is not so much choice. Girlsway is the only gg site in porn against 100000 bg sites. I hope they change her way of filming,the girls they book and that they start to think that porn is seeing girls make out and not talking for more than half of the scenes
Aya
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Posted - Oct 26 2017 : 10:01AM
^They are not changing and there are plenty of other G/G sites out there. Your narrow definition of what porn is is false, that's why Girlsway is so successful. If you want no talking and just sex, then check out places like Babes, Nubiles, and X-Art.
scarlettsagelov
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Posted - Oct 26 2017 : 10:54AM
So successfull i dont know. Twistys, momslickteens do better scenes with better camera angle. They have some minutes of talking not 30 likethe scene of vanessa and serena. Vampires scenes are not having so positive vibes. Babes,nubiles and xart arent doing gg anymore. Gg is finishing for users like you who are more interested on talking than sex
Aya
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Posted - Oct 26 2017 : 11:55AM
^Yes, they are successful. If Twistsy and Moms Lick Teens do it better, than watch them. Don't try to force Girlsway to change what works for them. Babes and Nubiles still does G/G. I'm not more interested in talking than sex, I can enjoy various types of G/G.
If you don't like talking, just hit the fast forward button.
scarlettsagelov
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Posted - Oct 26 2017 : 12:36PM
I could go forward but it is bad that like in the scene of today there are only 10 min of sex. I hope in a return of kissmegirl. They did the best gg in history
Starry Eyes
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Posted - Oct 26 2017 : 12:37PM
Girlfriends Films is probably the only alternative to Girlsway that I'll watch and thoroughly enjoy.
scarlettsagelov
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Posted - Oct 26 2017 : 12:53PM
momslickteens is good with good girls and beautiful lights and camera angle. the only problem is that they do 1 scene every 2 weeks
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what i like of momslickteens is how they are filmed and this kind of camera angle that girlsway never does
there is not anything better than see eyes, tongue while the pussy is licked of a girl near and not far away
Shadow115
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Posted - Oct 26 2017 : 1:14PM
It's Keisha Grey/Samantha Rone/Blair Williams.
Edited by - Shadow115 on 10/26/2017 1:14:49 PM
pat362
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Posted - Oct 26 2017 : 1:31PM
I enjoy many of GW videos but there a multiple recurring pet peeves that often make what should be a great scene one that is significantly less appealing.
1-Terrible acting: Since GW makes scenario driven porn then the one thing that they should make sure of is to only award the more complex roles to performers who can do a modicum of justice to the role. I won't name names because I think it often has less to do with the performer and more to do with time and budget restraints but there are some performers who should have as little dialogue as possible or make sure that the dialogue they have to speak require very little talent.
2-Mediocre(bad) Camera Work: I don't know if it's a recent thing or I'm getting more critical in my old age but I am getting really tired when the camera zooms away from the acting to instead focus on nothing of importance. Some example are when the performers are kissing and somehow the camera operator decides to pan away from the kissing to instead focus on the body of the women. There are the countless static shots where the camera isn't moving with the performers or the zoom away to the point where the camera feels like it's 10 feet away.
3-The badly developed storylines: Too many of the storylines aren't very good. The recent Vampire series of vignettes comes to mind because the problems are glairing. Now to be fair I put the bulk of the blame on GW because this is the kind of story that requires a lot of time and by extension money to execute properly and neither of these things are in abundance in modern porn production. That said I do blame the people who came up with the idea because if they thought they could do justice to that kind of plot than they need to re-evaluate the way they produce porn.
4-Chemistry between the various performers: I am aware that many lesbian performers are gay for pay so I imagine it's a lot harder for them to fake an interest in someone of their own sex but GW employs a huge amount of performers that only shoot G/G porn so between the true lesbian and the really good performers. There should be a big enough talent pool to allow a wide variety of storyline where there is a genuinely believable amount of chemistry between the performers and I think there should be someone at GW who recognizes when there isn't any chemistry so that any future storyline avoid pairing the mismatched performers together again.
5-Kissing: This one above any of the previous complaints is the one that I want to see is large quantity in my porn. Sadly it's almost completely gone from most b/g videos but it's still a regular part of most lesbian videos. The problem is that I find that it's not used properly or often enough in too many videos. The performers characters should want to kiss their partner for more than a few seconds and they should want to kiss them repeatedly but I find that except for at the beginning of the scene. The kissing sort of becomes part of the checklist that is used in hetero porn instead of being part of a flowing sex scene.
I know what I just wrote seem to imply that GW makes bad porn but I honestly don't believe that. I just think that they can do better. Then again my expectations are probably too high.
scarlettsagelov
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Posted - Oct 26 2017 : 1:55PM
^ I dont care about acting,story or plot or whatever reduces time to sex. Today scene was of 40 minutes but only about 10 was of sex and this is ridicoulous. Camera angles are very bad. Stillbyalan puts the camera in a place and doesnt move with the girls. I like that kind of view like in the pic I posted before. Kissing and titty sucking is avoided in the scenes. Examples are the scenes with angela white. She has the best huge tits but no girl sucks them. I think only Scarlett sage sucks tits and I would like to see Scarlett and angela together. Scenes that end with girls still kissing are ridicoulous
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PornStarNamedBuckNaked All-Star Supporter
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I gotta agree with this. The girls kissing is a huge turn on for me and GW has been failing in this area lately.
Every studio goes into a slump every now and then. GW is in one now, IMHO, but hopefully, things will pick up soon. I'm not threatening to cancel my subscription or anything like that, I've just been disappointed in the scenes they've put out for the past couple of months (with certain exceptions).
Shadow115
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Posted - Oct 26 2017 : 3:13PM
G/G only performers seem way more gay for pay than the ones who also shoot B/G, oddly enough. The G/G only ones with husbands or boyfriends don't even consider it cheating to have sex with girls, that's how little they actually think of lesbian sex.
I don't think it matters what type of content you shoot in terms of chemistry. Hell, there have been girls who have never met before who shot great scenes together, while two who have known each other shot duds.
MorganKane
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Posted - Oct 26 2017 : 3:26PM
^^I too agree. Two girls kissing and making out is a massive turn on so I'd love to see more of it, both in the foreplay/build up to the sex, during the sex and after the sex. I do wish GG porn in general would break out of the "a bit of kissing - you do me and I do you - trib and/or 69" set up that seems to become the standard.
GW in a slump? While, for me, things have picked up slighty lately there's been an increase in scenes I've skipped due to a lack of interested this year. Partially due to casting, partially due to various other things.
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