[Tweet is no longer available] Leigh posted a link on her Twitter page of a video she & her wife Nikki Hearts made in which she accuses male performer Rico Strong & director JustDave of physical & sexual assault during a scene shot three days ago on Tuesday March 6. Later in the video, female performer Riley Nixon appears on camera also accuses the same two men of assaulting her almost identically as they did Leigh during a shoot two months ago. In the video, Leigh mentions she filed a police report, under went a rape examination and was interviewed by two LAPD officers.
^^Nope. He's been in the business for 14 years and gotten zero online support from other performers. James Deen barely survived his scandal and his career has never been the same. Rico Strong wasn't getting much work before. His career is probably over now.
^ I don't know but Nikki in her youtube presentations says it's believed to have links with Facial Abuse, this would explain a lotLeigh is Lesbian and both her and her wife Nikki had done IR with males before Edited by - LCF on 3/10/2018 11:00:55 AM
^I've never heard of her. He needs a number of popular and high profile female performers to come to his defense. Otherwise, his career in straight porn is done.
Is James Deen actually involved in any of this? I mean he has enough shit on his own , I don't think it's fair bringing in hi and leaving out those actually involved in this shit this time
^^No, James Deen isn't involved in this situation. I mentioned him as an example of another male performer whose career was damaged after abuse allegations.
Rico is about the only performer I've seen bringing race into it. The fans (including one delusional one I know has been banned off another board multiple times) are the hardcore IR fanatics. I've only seen performers bringing up consent and boundaries in scenes thus far. Might get some flack for this but In my 31 years of being black I've seen and dealt with my fair share of racist shit but I hate when black people immediately jump on the "it's because I'm black" soapbox for every damn thing, especially when race is not the basis of the issue. Look man if you fucked up, then you just fucked up. Claim your mistake but going around comparing yourself to Emmitt Till is fucking pathetic and disrespectful. He went from saying it didn't happen to saying they have an agenda to get him out the industry because he's black. It's like a last ditch effort to turn this back on them. Come on, son. Edited by - iramaj1 on 3/10/2018 4:01:12 PM
Yea damaged but he still works fairly regularly . I still see Deen getting work on a monthly basis. I guarantee you Rico Strong career is over. He'll never shoot again. Hence a racial double standard. I don't think his situation itself is because of race but I do believe the backlash won't be equivalent between Deen and Rico is all I'm saying. we'll see how it plays out.
This topic seems bigger than just Rico and Leigh... maybe a thread name change is in order? It seems that girls are being shot for Facial Abuse by director Just Dave without knowing it, and being assaulted in ways that are consistent with too many shoots from that company. With other performers speaking out against these surprise FA shoots by Just Dave, it would surprise me if all of them worked with/were assaulted by Rico. I have a feeling other male performers are going to get caught up in this too.
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Posted - Mar 10 2018 : 7:07PM
Anastasia Rose and Nickey Hunstman shot for fa but w the white background
Clearly Rico needs to be removed from the industry, and most likely will be based on everyone's reactions. Also, who is the contingent of people saying that it's a race issue? So far the only person I see trying to work that angle is Rico himself. I will say though (since others mentioned it first in this thread), I can't help but roll my eyes at the some of the industry people now proclaiming loudly that the industry must show "solidarity" in banishing him and Dave, when they more or less shrugged at the Deen allegations when they became public.
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Posted - Mar 10 2018 : 7:08PM
In the Anastasia rose scene a female interviewed her however before and after and it was only her and Nickey hunts,am so far that have done these surprise FA scenes
James deen is not the issue here and bringing him in would divert the attention from the actual issue at hand especially because his issues with Stoya didn't happen on set. About kicking him out well he produces and directs his own material , I don't think he would kick himself out. As for Rico being black nobody even thought about that besides him and some delusional IR fan, well it'll be the issue because the very same shit happened with Mr Marcus(no violence here though) not only nobody put the issue but when you repeat something in the long run it'll be the issue, some fellow black performer were against him but had to change a while later because of race involvement and they couldn't be hard on him anymore. Alexander Devoe was also involved in some sexual harassement on his sets involving several members of his crew , after few testimony , Evil Angel did some inquiry very private then kicked him out also very privately he ended up producing himself but his stuff is very hard to find
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Posted - Mar 10 2018 : 7:10PM
Would make sense that a lot of those scenes push the edge and w Callie Klein stating this happens to her as well
Surprise FA shoot: [Tweet is no longer available] Just Dave being accused of assault/abuse in other instances: [Tweet is no longer available] Click on that one for further tweets that list the things allegedly he did.
I'm not sure about what you mean I just said that neither showed any racism before so?
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Posted - Mar 10 2018 : 7:30PM
Callie would have to be referring to her bang scene w them right? Because she did a Latina Abuse scene but said on Twitter that she liked working for them and they have "respect" for the talent. Considering they shoot Bootleg Tommy Pistol and Bruno Dickemz and that Jimmy Hooligan used to be a camera man we see how much they respect women
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Posted - Mar 10 2018 : 7:31PM
What i meant was in those two scenes the scene was in a white room like bang as compared to the usual FA scenes in jersey.
This seems true...Just Dave is the brains behind this...how does FA exist when Brazzers had to drop PSP? From both the stories told, the Director seems oblivious to whats going on and steps in at the last minute to break it out after conveniently getting all the footage he needs. Still, gotta a feelin' Rico knew what was going down and now with all the negative backlash, dude is going to the race card
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Posted - Mar 10 2018 : 10:00PM
While I don;t disagree about the Stoya specific encounters, what about the women he abused ON Set? Tori Lux detailed her own alleged assault to The Daily Beast. Porn stars Amber Rayne and Kora Peters also have claimed on set rape by this animal. Rocco Siffredi on James DeenThey threw Stoya under the bus. If this happens today, he would rightfully be blackballed. Edited by - FlacFan on 3/10/2018 10:12:01 PM
if Just Dave is still protected by the Manwin umbrella, we probably wont see any appropriate punishment for him. Manwin has a knack for protecting assets, no matter how vile they act As for Rico, if he is the only male performer linked to the allegations then there should be immediate action taken, otherwise, I dont think it's fair to assume he had a plan in JD's schemes. As for the race issue, it will be easier to make him a scapegoat and blackball him. Unlike Deen, Rico already works on a limited market and therefore, his chances of losing all work opportunities are much higher IIRC, Rob Piper was allegedly involved in domestic disputes with Leah Gotti. He fell off the grid for a few and then bounced back up
IIRC, Just Dave hasn't shot under the Manwin umbrella for a while. And even besides that, when the stuff with Nikki came out, they let go of Tony T, so it's not like they'll always protect their own when it comes to stuff like this. And as far as whether Rico is done or not, Rico doesn't have his own production company to make up for the lack of shoots he's going to get from other people, so the drop in shoots that's about to happen is basically gonna kill his ability to make money in the industry. Unless he has a lot of money saved up, I don't see how it'd be worth it for him to try to weather the storm and hope some shoots come his way further down the line, as that amount of shoots is still gonna be lower than the amount he's shooting right now. And that's not to mention he also doesn't have a huge list of female performers whose trust he's gained over the years that are willing to shoot with him even with this hanging over his head.
Im hesitant to believe or take one side of the story before issuing judgment, rico strong should give his own side of the story as raven has. So far its her word against him, he has not been arrested, convicted or found guilty of anything by a jury of his peers and till then he is innocent and such accusation are baseless. In the video she lies and says that rico strong is over 6ft and 250LB which is clearly untrue, rico admitted by himself is 5.8 /5.9 in height and any reasonable human being can see from his porno videos he is not 250lb. That statement is a lie and makes me question her credibility, why lie on such a detail that can be easily found? As for rico strong he will still get hired for dogfart at worse and still earn his paycheck. If james deen accused of rape is still earning wages rico should still be able to shoot some scenes. The onus is on leigh raven to prove she was assaulted not rico strong to deny such allegations.
I believe the people involved should do some jail time. That might seem harsh but I think the only way this type of thing will stop is by making the producers, directors, and talent of the type of thing are deathly afraid to even consider doing it. Trying to let the porn biz trying to police itself doesn't seem to work because this type of thing just keeps happening over and over again. I usually take the mindset of you can do any sort of fetish as long as no one is hurt by it but it seems with this awful type of fetish there will always be some who feels the need to push it beyond acting/pretend to really actually hurting people. And as long as the women involved are afraid of repercussions if they don't go along with it or speak out they will always be taking advantage of and abused by those making these types of movies. And quite frankly, I feel this type of porn needs to go away all together. It's not even about sex, it's about people who like to see women brutalized.
im not taking anyones favor but people should not blame anyone without any proof we can not decide who was wrong ,only those knows who was at set all here are saying rico was wrong just on the basis of what she said,atleast we should wait for rico statement
This is the point, its his words against hers. What makes her account of the events that happened if it did, more valuable than rico? In the video she said that after the porno shoot she made it clear she wasn't raped or forced and she was payed. She has no proof.
Well, you're free to feel anyway you want about it but since one girl has pics of her swollen face and another felt so strongly she went to the police and has medical evidence that comfirms she had vaginal tearing, I think I'll believe her over the people who will say anything to save their asses. Plus the fact that the scene was shot for a studio that is infamously know to shoot over the top brutal content that most of the girls in the industry know to avoid. Maybe Rico is a nice guy in other circumstances but in this case it seems he was willing to brutalize another human being for the sake of getting paid. Not cool. The Just Dave people are taking advantage of girls who are tricked and put in a position where they are afraid to say "no". Not cool. The people who enjoy watching this type of porn are creeps with problems if they feel it's okay if a girl is brutalized just so they can get their rocks off. Not cool. This type of thing just keeps popping up over and over again. It needs to stop. People need to get prison time for it because nothing else that's been done so far seems to work.
Vaginal tearing only proves they had sexual intercourse, which was CONSENSUAL, she herself states in the video that she agreed it was CONSENSUAL and not RAPE and it was done with her consent and she was payed for it and accepted the money. She also lied about rico height and weight saying he was over 250lb, why lie about something so trivial than can be easily determined? If that is false the question is open as to if her story is accurate or true. No one is going to jail, no one is charged, no one is convicted. Guilty is not determined by the public or social media but by the jury of peers.
So next time she's going to sue anybody should make sure of his measurements and wight? I'm amazed she didn't say how long his dick is, clearly a lie Almost forgot Rico did give his own side of the story, twice, first it's a lie , then sine many were adding to it said it's all because he's black and nobody in the industry supports him Also just the fact he's not saying anything about what actually happened on that set is creepy by itself Edited by - LCF on 3/11/2018 10:30:34 AM
MOD: We are not playing the lets ignore moderation and get the thread locked game. This thread is NOT for discussing James Deen. Edited by - Flash on 3/11/2018 11:00:29 AM
^ While writing you missed this:My general replyThis is the reason why so many rapists, stalkers and pedophiles go away with those nobody was there except them and the alleged victim Edited by - LCF on 3/11/2018 10:34:21 AM Edited by - LCF on 3/11/2018 10:39:38 AM
If I lure a woman into a regular sex intercourse and she consent to it , am I allowed to buttfuck her? You keep calling her a liar because she approximates his height and weight , really? did she actually measure him? Can she tell the exact difference between someone 6.0 from someone 5.9 ? Can you?
I watched Leigh's entire Youtube vid and it was hard to watch. Personally, I think that anyone who can watch it and say that Leigh has ulterior motives has problems. Clearly everyone in that vid has been traumatized by what occurred. Anyone who knowingly hurts others and makes them suffer for the sake of a pay check has no business working in the industry, I don't care what the scene or director calls for. The negative stereotypes and stigma surrounding porn will continue until changes are made. You can't seriously expect people to freely exercise their right to refuse or withdraw their consent when their pay checks are contingent on completing a scene. Everyone, cast and crew, should be paid a minimum just for showing up on set. Edited by - Slave2Booty on 3/11/2018 12:54:53 PM
Did that same woman you lured say on video after intercourse and under no duress that she wasn't raped or forced and agreed to what had taken place? Rico said he is 5.8, the difference of 3 to 4 inches should be noticed, even assuming she made a mistake. Even giving her the benefit of the doubt why lie and say rico is 250lb and above? you can tell the difference in weight and size easily and she did not have to make such claims, which is a lie as easily seen from rico video. Why would make such a definite statement on him if you weren't absolutely sure? It was simply a way to make him look bigger and stronger and thus help her case. It is a fact that rico is not above 250lb above as she claimed. She lied. This gives room to scrutinize her further accounts of what happened with lack of conviction. It is her word against rico strong that is what it comes down to. Rico is innocent until proven guilty in the court of law, that is the way the justice system works.
^ If I'm supposed to pay her and refuse to pay unless she say so on camera then nothing she says is valuable even les if she's a liar FA has a long history over taking advantage of the girls they hire as for his height 5.8 to 6.0 are just 2 inches not 4 also she's a lot shorter than him so maybe watching someone from down under isn't the best of perspective to evaluate , and what would the purpose of lying about his height again? it doesn't matter at all there's no reason to say it and nothing would change so why should she put a detail like that,? She's just wrong, nothing more But most of all why did they hide it was a FA shoot ? Why have they this need to get girls? Edited by - LCF on 3/11/2018 12:03:26 PM
^ 5′8″ to 6′0″ is 4 inches, because 12″ make 1′ (don't get me started on this stupid non-decimal based system)... It still doesn't make sense belittling Leigh's statement as false because she incorrectly guessed his height. About the weight: Have you seen images/videos of Rico Strong lately? The 230 pounds I believe in an instant!
^ Right ,I forgot the base 12 as a metric mind I tend to divide per 10 ,I can use a 60 based system joined to a 12 based divison while measuring time , anyway I stand corrected
According to IAFD Leigh Raven is 5'8, so if that's true and Rico Strong is the same height how can she claim he's much taller? If she was 4'11-5'2 maybe she would mistake it, I'm not calling her a liar, just that why over exaggerate it.
This doesn't sound like a situation where we can judge Rico himself properly based on the simple fact that numerous other females have said they were treated this way by the COMPANY before. That's too say, told they were being paid for one type of scene and treated while shooting in a way they were not comfortable with. If the performer doesn't want to work with him anymore on a personal level I get that but filing against him seems to be in spite simply because he was the person who caused her harm. 1) He might not have known he wasn't supposed to be shooting that type of scene with her AT ALL, and 2) if you're going to sue the company then fine but your issue with him is more of a moral and personal ethic one. Not siding with Rico on this but I've already seen the smear campaign against his career beginning on topics on this site alone that have NOTHING to do with him at the moment.
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