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Some pornstars who are now big on OF are not very humble to say it politely. One example is calling out fans all kind of pathetic names on Twitter. I've seen them go as far as looking up individuals to find out what their job is and then shaming/banning them assuming they wouldn't possibly have enough money to spend that they would care. Money and becoming independent makes them go crazy.
It's healthier for the whole pornscene to just subscribe or buy videos from the studios. That way you support a crew as well as the pornstar. And in return we end up with much better content
I wonder if those performers who are bragging about incredible incomes on Onlyfans (believable or more probably not) are doing it so as a form of weird strategy to attract more customers. Personally I can't see a single reason why I should be more inclined to subscribe to them because of it, but maybe it's different for other people? I don't know.
^ $250,000 in a month is 25,000 fans paying $10 each. I assume the biggest pornstars could get 25,000 people from around the world to pay that. (I also don't think porn actresses are stupid enough to publicly state they are earning an amount from a private enterprise, when they are actually earning nothing like that.)
I think it's more that they've earnt that in one specific month, most likely their first month, and it's implied that they earn that every month.
Like this article I saw today. But this author didn't imply it, they just outright stated it.
^ It's actually a common journalistic trick. For example, a journalist will interview someone who is known for consuming large amounts of food, alcohol, drugs etc. They will ask them what's the most they've consumed in a single day, and the interviewee will describe these huge quantities. The journalist will then imply, or even outright state, that they do that every day.
So far I haven't used OF, but I think it's good that female talent has a platform where they have more control over the content they want to do and where they get to keep the majority of the profits.
Who wouldn't want a GF who has incredible income and is hot enough to be successful on OF?
I know some girls who only post topless pics for 6k a month on OF. I mean with a masters degree and a stressful job it's still hard to match that in my country.
There is a book from 2011 by Nicholas Carr, a sociology professor and Pulitzer price finalist, named "The Shallows: What the Internet Is Doing to Our Brains", he defends the hypothesis that smart phones and internet are affecting society in such a way that the attention spans of people are getting increasingly short and that we lose the ability to read and understand things in depth.
It's a very interesting read, I recommend it in case the topic interests you.
But why would any performer think that? I think in music or acting performers have managers and publicists around them telling them to downplay their wealth, as this will alienate them from their consumer base. Maybe all these women making big money on OF don't have that, and so are just openly bragging about it.
And reiterating, it's not just porn actresses doing this.
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Posted - May 1 2022 : 10:45PM
OnlyFans isn't great if you just sign up and take what's there. The appeal for me has always been in having a direct line of communication with models, ordering customs, and sometimes items from the custom videos.
^^I'm going to go on a wild guess and say that unless the member is the type of person that wants to be insulted by his favorite model then the rating for his dick will be above 90 %.
^If that's true then does anyone need OF? I would say you don't need OF to get any of these things since social media will get you most of what you want and if the models cams then you will get you the rest. Now if cam shows are included with a models OF membership at no extra cost then okay but otherwise you are being scammed out of money to join a OF account just so that you can then pay even more money for interaction with a model that a camming site doesn't charge for.
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I have absolutely no idea how these "girls" rate them. It does nothing for me, so I'm not gonna waste my money on it.
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Posted - May 2 2022 : 11:50AM
^ They most likely didn't even rate them and just give everybody the lowest score. This woman looks at dicks all day, do you really think she cares about your micro dick? I'm going to so say no.
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Posted - May 4 2022 : 12:22AM
Yeah, fair enough, you are right. It's just another avenue of communication, but one that costs money. Sometimes not much, so its still worth it, but your point is good.
First off to me Onlyfans is a virtual strip club. It's another forum of technology evolution in the adult film business. Onlyfans gave the power back to the female performers for once to control their career.
The format would work if the content creators created bundle content. Like $20 a month four girls pages etc. Personally I am not into one female enough to pay in the current format. Dreed releases some great content though.
Tried the OF experiment and either the page is "free" and changing stupid prices per 5-10 minute scene or there's a monthly fee and very few releases.
There are a couple of well worth it pages where you pay like $20 all inclusive but few and far between. The "big name" girls are all a ripoff from what I've experienced.
I sub to as many porn sites as possible to support the industry but I'm done with OF, it's just not worth it at all when you can get a sub to a producer that has a huge library for the same price.
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Posted - May 26 2022 : 9:13PM
I think onlyfans has peaked. It's too big and it got too much mainstream attention and scrutiny. I really prefer their smaller but less restrictive competitors like fans.ly and justfor.fans.
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Posted - May 26 2022 : 10:14PM
Against what I believed would be the case, I am buying more and more from onlyfans. Shopping is harder this way, but it is seemingly the best way to get woman-on-woman sex from the U.S. performers that isn't completely ruined with really dumb nonsense. I wish there were content tags and the ability to search for videos like a traditional clip store.
^I'm assuming that you have already downloaded what past great g/g studios like Sweetheart Films and Girlfriend Films have in their library before choosing to even consider buying stuff you find on OF because otherwise you are missing out on some truly amazing stuff.
Also I don't know that I would use the term shopping when referring to OF as a whole because it implies that you have the ability to actually pick and choose what you want when in fact you are just buying a magic box where you hope it contains what you were looking for instead of something you regret and let's not forget that the cost of those magic boxes isn't cheap. I assume that over time you have made a list of performers that you trust to offer something you like but it wouldn't surprise me that even they wound up making something you wished you hadn't bought.
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I keep an ongoing GFF membership. Their current stuff is hit and miss. I've seen a lot of Sweetheart but don't follow them currently mainly to avoid giving Mindgeek money.
As far as OF, Abigail Mac has good stuff and so I've bought a bit from her and a couple others. You hill likely pick up stuff you end up not liking, true. This one performer tried to convince me to buy a mystery bundle when I was 90% sure I had 90% of her GG content already, and I basically had to pull what was in the bundle out of her, and yep I had most of it. At present, you do have to try people out and see who is on their content job like a pro and who isn't. You're right that it's not really shopping, and not a great experience overall. The merit to it is that you can get some content of sex they actually enjoyed, and you can avoid some of the stupid stuff that gets mandated into company-site content.
The thing is, GG-wise, the standardized porn is becoming useless to me because the general G4P energy and creepy-to-terrible antics in most scenes are turn-offs. OF content can be quite natural and pleasing.
this thread proves why I don't like OF from the start, can't download, either very little content or everything behind paywall Can't see any previews which is an absolute no-go You might not even talk to her in the days 0,1% might be worth it but the rest is just not it
Unless the scene stars the same people then I see no reason why one model would advertise what is essentially a competitor. The only logical reason I can see why a model decides to advertise another model is because the model doesn't manage her own OF account and it's really the people who manage multiple models doing the cross advertising.
There are lots of models who have all-inclusive pages so you know what you are getting upfront. There are also a lot of models who boast they are in the top 1% but that's only because their page is priced low or free and then they charge for videos in DM. It would be awesome if someone were to make an OF directory with which models use PPV and which don't.
Most models will say there is no PPV in the bio, so always check that before you join.
^Possibly but unless the models have very different content or they plan to work together then I don't see the logical reason why one would be willing to send anyone to the other models OF account because that's a bunch of people that might never come back.
I've signed up with Jade Teen, who is very interactive, has a beautiful pussy and does hardcore content, including with a cameraman. She has also offered a decent amount of free content, and does live shows.
I finally quit following my beloved modell. OF has deleted a lot of her G/G stuff even though the other model is a OF Girl too. She didnt post much lately and i dont have neither a Tokentree nor a money printing machine
And now it's getting even more weird. People not only openly bragging about how much they make on OF, now also bragging that they make more than others.
^ I personally don't care about the big earners, but I hope that the girls I follow are doing well. One in particular (JadeTeen) is in college, and says it's basically paying her tuition and living expenses. I have no idea how much she's making, but I'm happy for her.
That really pisses me off. They do the same on Twitter. 80% of the updates from women I'm interested in are reposts of updates from women I'm not interested in.
Some of the models that have graduated from TikTok need to realise that there's a middle ground between full frontal nudity / sexual activity and posting 5 second mirror selfie videos. I would be totally down for just seeing some of these girls in Playboy-style lingerie/bikini/cosplay shoots before they eventually decide to ditch the clothes entirely. They'll spend hours perfecting a 30 second TikTok dance to perform in a bikini by the pool but they can't slip something sexy on and pose for 5 minutes? I'm not gonna pay 20 bucks for 5 second clips of their cleavage or the top of their butt peeking out of their clothing filmed in a mirror.
Some of the accounts are managed and will repost it each. It's not such a bad thing because it helps to grow each other's user base organically instead of paying for followers. The problem is many models have no relation to each other, ie big booty girl reposting a skinny model
In my porn collection I have a folder called "Solo Girls". Which are just scenes of women doing masturbation scenes at most or even just dancing naked etc etc
All of the girls in this folder are gorgeous women who have never done B/G hardcore (or have only shot a few scenes of woefully pathetic quality). If any women have shot B/G scenes in the past they are not in this folder at all. It is exclusively for beautiful women who would otherwise be entirely absent from my porn stash but are so beautiful that I still wanted some videos of them to "admire" *cough, cough* Likewise, this is true of another folder I have called "Girl on Girl". Which is just lesbian scenes of women who also have never shot B/G hardcore (or only limited low quality ones). Or just happen to be one of the rare outstanding Girl on Girl scenes I genuinely enjoy (most of which I personally find are kind of lackluster if I'm being honest).
Some examples of women in these folders are... Aria Giovanni, Veronica Zemanova, Sandra Shine, Melena R (aka Maria Ryabushkina), Mila Azul, Ariel Rebel, Celeste Star, Katya Clover, etc etc
Now if any of these women had started doing B/G hardcore in high quality at some point I would have likely deleted most of their scenes from these folders and just had their B/G stuff in my standard porn stash area. But the reason I keep them is because they didn't do that and this is the only way I get to see them. It is simply the best option I have available to me, in regards to these specific beautiful women.
I imagine that fans of sites like Onlyfans have a similar mindset as I have. If not for what these women put up on these sites, then they wouldn't have the opportunity to admire *cough, cough* them at all... and so they are appreciative to just to have the opportunity of seeing women who would otherwise have never gotten into the porn industry and all of the known problems that lifestyle choice entails. So we would never even have known they existed in the world at all... let alone ever seen them naked or doing sexual stuff.
So in this regard I completely understand why someone would like site like Onlyfans... especially when we are talking about amateur unknowns and the access to them that sites like Onlyfans provides, which without we would never get to see as consumers.
However, in regards to previously active pornstars who now have an Onlyfans page. I find myself less enthusiastic beyond mere curiosity of what they have been doing since then and how they are looking years later. But as for actual XXX content? I usually have a plethora of well shot, high resolution scenes of them in their prime and most enthusiastic at my fingertips at any given moment. So comparatively the "value" is inevitably going to be less for me than it would be for a beautiful amateur women I otherwise have never seen before. Especially if the content they are offering on their Onlyfans page are of low quality.
The exception to this is of course "firsts" they are offering that they never did in their professional career. This IS likely to peak my interest. Although admittedly due to the low production value although grateful to see it I am more often than not left disappointed and would obviously have by far preferred the event to be professionally shot (more varied angles, higher definition, better editing, more refined experience overall etc).
The other appealing aspect to sites like Onlyfans that comes to mind for a consumer is the ability to take advantage of asking them to create "tailored scenes" just for you. Basically offering the chance to get a pornstar you have a particular fancy for and becoming an offsite director to get them to perform something that is specifically tailored for your personal kinks and fetishes. Assuming they are willing to for a price and that you have the expendable cash to make it happen. You can even pay to get them to "call out your name" during well... whatever you want, if you wish. Unfortunately in this case my own personal porn quirks would be probably pretty expensive and ironically likely out of my own price range so I have never actually been able to indulge in this particular service.
But I can certainly see the appeal in this particular option. And this in particular was certainly not an affordable or realistic option for your average consumer in the pre-Onlyfans sites porn industry. This is essentially heaven for obsessives of particular pornstars and for also fetishists for whom "standard practise" in the porn industry never managed to scratch a very specific itch they have... and who have money to burn to make an offer.
Regardless of all that, I also most certainly understand why the content creators themselves become involved in sites like Onlyfans. Control over your own content especially since YOU and your body IS the commodity being offered is obviously a much smarter way to go as most of the money being generated both now and into the future is going to end up in your own pocket. Purchasing your own production company is very expensive and has a very high risk of going belly up, while sites like Onlyfans makes it very affordable and low risk and doesn't put you at the mercy of certain exploitative assholes inherent to the porn industry. So if I was them I likely would do exactly the same.
It must suck for aging pornstars years in the future to realise they have little to no cash in their bank account while there are other people who are STILL making money off them and the old scenes they shot with absolutely no compensation whatsoever coming their way. I remember reading an interview with a previously very attractive and popular US 90's pornstar, who at that time decades later was quite literally homeless (and looking more than a little worse for wear) who has seen that her old scenes had been included in yet another "compilation" DVD release and was still making the owners money. For a scene she was paid about $500 for at the time and never saw a dime after that. Which legally was perfectly fine and was the deal she had agreed to at the time, but in hindsight and from the perspective of someone who didn't even know where their next meal was coming from (or even "if")... is obviously a less than optimal outcome.
Sites like Onlyfans help to negate this possibility as a content creator... legally what you create remains yours and (in theory) will continue to make you money, even if it is 50 years from now as long as there remains people in the future willing to purchase it. Which makes complete sense to me... even if that content is not exactly high grade.
So while I certainly can't call myself a huge fan of Onlyfans generally myself... I'm definitely glad that such sites exist for both consumers and content creators for a number of good reasons.
There is some personal responsibility for their financial situation. Despite the optics of their late-life situation, it is largely a myth that pornstars were underpaid during their shooting years. Even before avenues such as Onlyfans, attractive girls were pulling in $20k+/month from shooting alone and the market was incredibly resilient during the financial crisis. And I'm aware of many kind-hearted producers who try to steer the girls with good financial advice, only to fall upon deaf ears. And many received offers to participate in recurring-income projects and shoot their own content.
Onlyfans is not a savior. If a girl stops regularly posting, the revenue declines dramatically. And there is a symbiotic relationship with mainstream porn where shooting porn helps their OnlyFans subscriptions.
And of course, bad spending habits are hard to break, regardless of the source of income. Just look at how many professional athletes - who make millions per year - end up broke.
This is a good point. OF has removed a lot of great girls who were, or who otherwise could be in the professional ranks. So it has overall weakened studio porn. Seems like so many girls who could be moving the needle in pro porn are just doing poorly filmed, lame OF stuff. A small amount of it is good, but I'm not gonna sign up for a bunch of accounts where you really have no idea what you're going to get.