You guys know that you're not supposed to download from OF, right? It's against the terms of service.
15. Do not reproduce, print, distribute, attempt to download, modify, create derivative works of, publicly display, publicly perform, republish, download, store or transmit any Content, except as permitted under the Terms of Service.
And the creators definitely don't appreciate it. Some porn performers have posted right here on ADT that they put stuff on onlyfans as opposed to manyvids/clips4sale specifically because they don't want you to download it.
The fact of the matter is that you're not paying for porn to keep. You're paying for porn to experience on the platform for as long as they want you to.
Now, I know that there are ways to potentially get around this. But in the interests of both the legal arguments, as well as the wishes of the creators, I will ask that you don't speak about downloading tools for OF here.
I have been a member of OnlyFans with various accounts. I am presuming that you are speaking about everything except custom videos, which makes sense. So it is a bit confusing when it says you are not paying for porn to keep. I am at OnlyFans specifically for access to custom porn to keep, which I pay for through tips. This of course is nothing new.
I once paid Charity Crawford $200 for a special fetish custom through tips. She did not deliver. I complained to OnlyFans and they restored the money. The fact is that several girls send me custom downloadable videos on the platform. I specifically make that request. In the Terms of Service, it defines "Fan Payment" as
"Fan Payment" means any and all payments made by a Fan to a Creator, including payments for access to a Creator's Content, for interaction with the Creator, to procure new Content from the Creator, to subscribe to the Creator's account, to use the fan interaction function on the Creator's account, and any tips paid by a Fan to the Creator;
I am just saying that it appears that we are still allowed to download ("procure" in the Terms of Service) new Content if you and the Content Creator have agreed to that. But someone might not join OnlyFans, if they read that you are not supposed to keep any of the content, thinking nothing can be downloaded, and only viewed, including custom content. But maybe you know all this stuff. Again, a newbie might interpret things as meaning you cannot download anything at all from OnlyFans. Thanks.
^I'm pretty sure killbill is referring to people who join an OF account and uses special tools to download content that is specifically created to only be streamed as per the policies regarding OF content. I suspect custom videos while they may be ordered through an OF account are by definition not going to be available to anyone other than the purchaser and therefore don't fall under the OF policies regarding content.
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kronas77 Deactivated User
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Posted - Sep 13 2021 : 2:07AM
Thanks, pat362. I was hoping that is the meaning of things. It is just that I think that when it is said porn at OF is not for download, a potential newbie might think this applies in all cases, including customs. This way of thinking might deter the newbie from joining. So I just felt that further clarification was necessary.
^ playing the devil's advocate here, but I'm not sure "procure" automatically means "download". From a service point of view, as long as one stays subscribed, one can access the video, so no need to download (and shorten the time one stays subscribed). If I were to order a custom, I would assume that I would be able to download and keep forever the video (or I would stipulate this as a necessary requirement), but that must not necessarily be the case. Especially if you have to jump through the hoops and install browser addons and whatever only to get what you assume is your rightfully purchased item. I would make sure in the terms when ordering the custom that I will be able to download and keep it.
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kronas77 Deactivated User
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Posted - Sep 13 2021 : 6:22AM
You are right, lex von v, that the word "procure" is a bit vague in meaning. You would think they would say "view" instead, if that were the only option. The term "procure" is pretty unusual when dealing with customs, so I had the idea it meant to download. And with OF against downloads in general, I am thinking they are using the word "procure" to somehow distinguish this type of possible download from a "regular" forbidden download. In this way it makes them look as though there is no ambiguity to the word "download" itself.
Merriam-Webster defines procure as "to get possession of (something)."
Ordering a custom by paying a tip is a recipe for disaster, OF could kick off the both of you. Do it the right way and pay more.
Be well
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Posted - Sep 13 2021 : 1:03PM
Wow this makes OF even worse. What an experienxe it is to watch a few short clips and then have a star pretwbd to like me in the messages and try to sell me more videos 😅.
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kronas77 Deactivated User
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Posted - Sep 13 2021 : 2:37PM
Thanks, snufish. I guess I am a dummy regarding the "right way." Could you please explain briefly what this is? I know that OF does not like us mentioning other sites and addresses, and considers some of them forbidden terms. So I am hoping to work within the OF platform. I am not sure what you mean by "pay more." Thanks.
I wrote it a few times i am not a streamer. When i join a site and i pay for stuff than i want to download it and keep it in my files. And i have to admit i usually dont read the TOS completely since i´m just a "normal" user who likes to stay out of trouble. So , this really hit me hard when i pay for stuff and then i can not download it. This will be the reason that i most likely will not continue my subs that i have. I was pretty happy with MV but a lot of girls turned their back because they dont pay enough to a performer.
So , what does a Fan have to do ? Capture the screen with a camera ... what a pain that is (hello VHS copy times)
To my knowledge there are only two ways to pay on OF: You "tip" the dollar amount requested and trust the model to dm you the content. The model dm's you the content as a pay-per-view and trusts that you'll pay to unlock it.
Models prefer the tip method because it's cash in hand and they can provide the content whenever they get around to it. Consumers prefer the ppv because they aren't out anything if the model never delivers.
I've done it both ways and have never had an issue with a model backing out or delivering content that was too far out of bounds in terms of description. The few times I was let down I simply let it go since the money involved wasn't an amount I was going to worry about recouping.
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Posted - Sep 16 2021 : 12:00PM
Onlyfans is terrible, why do people like it?
So I've been subscribed to Blake Blossom and Riley Reed. The content does vary a lot in terms of quality, usually so so but I do like the behind the scenes vibe. Riley sticks a carrot in her pussy in public and is masturbating while driving. It seems like shes always horny and it almost becomes a reality show although the clips are short most of the time.
Most professional porn scenes are boring. Filmed on a (white) couch, on the bed, in the kitchen thats about where it stops in terms of variety.
I dont know if you know the "Seymore Butts" or "Shane's World" videos from before 2000 ... this kind of videos is whats missing today
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kronas77 Deactivated User
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Posted - Sep 16 2021 : 3:59PM
An erotic, playful, party atmosphere! Samantha Stylle was a mainstay and drives me crazy.
I collect her DVDs, starting with Behind The Sphinc Door (1997).
Let me drown her mouth, and her perfect nostrils, too! A three-point landing.
Samantha Stylle - Service Animals 2 - Evil Angel (2001)
Samantha Stylle - Bound by Blood - Extreme Associates (2000)
Samantha Stylle - www.hotspankings.com (defunct site) - Two Very Naughty Girls, with Tabitha Stylle (early 2000s)
I have never seen a hotspankings scene, but they were said to be amazing, and each eventually available on DVD. Never seen a hotspankings DVD either. Usually a special order. Site defunct by 2009. And now, back to why OnlyFans is so terrible!
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kronas77 Deactivated User
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Posted - Sep 16 2021 : 4:12PM
Thanks, nemmy.
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SouthernMaestro Deactivated User
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Posted - Oct 1 2021 : 5:14PM
Agree I have tried some free onlyfans and it's unbearable. The models have an automated system where it clearly sends a pic with a captain to everybody who follows them in the hope to get tips or unlock something for money it's just like being stuck in a robotic hell with sexchat bots who aren't even inventive or fun in the way they to get you to pay for stuff you could probably find on google for free. Overall even though I paid nothing I felt robbed of my time and hated every second using it. Never again.
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kronas77 Deactivated User
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Posted - Oct 1 2021 : 5:29PM
I am a subscriber at OnlyFans and agree that some models and their limited offerings are not worth your time or your dime. On the other hand, there are some models who deliver way more than expected.
The newest thing against OnlyFans is that not only are you not to allowed to download anything presented on the given model's page, but also that some models are now extending that to any custom videos you purchase.
This is like going into a grocery store, paying for the food, and being told that you can't take the food home, and you certainly cannot eat it in the store, but you can come back and look at it whenever the store is open.
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SouthernMaestro Deactivated User
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Posted - Oct 1 2021 : 5:41PM
Insane! Models would be better off just selling customers outside of onlyfans but I understand there are a lot of leaks and that's what they're trying to prevent mostly. Pretty much you can get any models onlyfans stuff leaked in a second if you wanted to. Even the PPV content most of the time. It's a tough balance but overall onlyfans just seems like it's not aimed at me anyway. I got nothing good out of it AT ALL. I feel like somebody has to be very bored and/or lonely to get lured into that environment where you're just a cashcow for somebody who probably isn't even the one controlling the account.
Now you might be right, there may be exceptions. May be some better ones but overall it's awful.
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kronas77 Deactivated User
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Posted - Oct 1 2021 : 7:06PM
The reasons I have joined are either one of the following:
1) because the model is a pornstar whose works and looks I have really liked over the years and so would want a custom from her as a kind of "privileged" being. I never joined to get her basic OF mass offerings, as most of them are commonly available elsewhere and/or I have already seen them. Plus you are not supposed to download them. The custom is just a fantasy and for me that is more than good enough. A simulation of reality is more than good enough for many gamers, too. Or like reading a great work of fiction over non-fiction.
2) she is a newbie or someone I have not seen before who has a certain soft-featured look that i love and encounter only once in every few thousand girls in "real life" or on the Internet. The Internet offers a faster survey! These girls are often basic unknowns and may have fewer than 100 subscribers. I am not naming names, but I recently subbed to a girl who looks remarkably like the former model Olivia Saint, with a hint of Chanel Preston added. I can go with the $5/month subscription fee if she is a newbie (say in the past 2 years) to see all her posted videos and then go with the $2/min custom fee (at another site). Finding a hidden gem, such as this example, is always enjoyable.
I recommend not joining OnlyFans to see what a model "really" looks like. Prefer instead to find her elsewhere, and maybe decide if OnlyFans looks like a useful extension of your interest at a reasonable ($5/month?) price. Before choosing to join or not, do note that a given model's page often indicates how many posts, how many pics, and how many videos are available.
This is probably the most accurate statement about onlyfans.
Its almost like a constant barrage of spam bots asking for money to buy their poor quality ppv clips.
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kronas77 Deactivated User
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Posted - Oct 5 2021 : 10:45AM
Hey guys. I have been establishing a bit of a personal database on the merits and demerits of OnlyFans.
I have subbed to about 20 girls overall, some with free accounts, some with "light" pay accounts ($3-5/month), and a few "heavyweight" accounts ($15+/month). I am a so-called "simp," although I do not feel like one if it is my choice to experience the adventure of OnlyFans and I can afford it; and as a happily single older guy, I like the freedom of living like a monk to go with it.
So here is my experience. OnlyFans is like the Wild West. You really do not know what you are going to get into when you walk into her saloon. You also don't know what the attitude of the girl is going to be, unless she is seen at other sites where you can preview her personal comments or see reviews from other fans.
Some girls are there solely to make money. Others are also truly interested in genuine conversations about just about any interesting topic. Some girls will tell you everything about their personal lives. Some will tell you virtually nothing in that area. Some expect to be tipped regularly for taking the time to text with you. Others never bring up the topic. Sometimes I feel like tipping, and I may give them $3.00 or $5.00. That is maybe 1 in 50 conversations overall.
Here is an unexpected benefit. Sometimes a girl will have special information you did not know about that helps you navigate life better. For instance, one girl who is a retired studio star but is still young and who still does soft solo porn at OnlyFans is very into Nature. I am into Nature too. I sent her a pic I took of a beautiful fungus growing on the side of a tree trunk. She then told me she had an App that identifies the species of plants and animals using submitted pics. Of course a fungus is not a plant or an animal, but she sent me back the result and then I knew what the species was. And I can download that App should I choose to. It is funny because about a week ago I saw a young guy taking a pic with his phone of an ivy on a fence. He lingered on his phone after taking the pic. So maybe he was using that type of App.
Remember though that OnlyFans is really clamping down now on fans trying to download stuff.
I really like the Adventure aspect of OnlyFans. So much of our world is becoming more and more Cookie Cutter.
Edited by - kronas77 on 10/5/2021 10:55:30 AM
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ao606 Deactivated User
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Posted - Oct 5 2021 : 11:06AM
How are they clamping down?
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Posted - Oct 5 2021 : 12:04PM
Hi, ao606, The main thing OF is doing to clamp down is to have a girl state on her OF page that downloading anything is forbidden and that legal action will be taken if you do.
It is the "legal action" part which is especially confrontational.
Not all girls make that stipulation, but it can be enforced by OF at any time.
I don't own the site, and I don't like all their rules, but I agree to follow them if I want the OF experience.
anyone else having problems wit OF ? Pictures and videos dont load
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kronas77 Deactivated User
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Posted - Oct 29 2021 : 6:45AM
Hi. I know it is a few hours later than when you posted, but for me, OF is working fine. If you are also a sub of another OF content creator, try that chat to compare. Good luck. --kronas
I'm a mixed bag with OF. I agree with social criticisms about the site.
For established adult entertainers, it decentralizes the industry and content creators potentially make far more money cultivating a direct audience.
For the mainstream porn, OF can act as a merit based casting agency removing some of the risk. If a content creator has a significant following on OF, maybe it can translate to money for the company if offering a scene or contract.
I do like the atypical look of OF creators compared to the mainstream look of talent brought in. Kinda an obtainable I could meet a person who looks this way v idealized out of my league fantasy. A lot of the OF content is kinda meh, at best, in production quality and the mainstream could use the variety.
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Posted - Jan 12 2022 : 6:31PM
^Interesting. I have that message in the same place, but it didn't stop me from buying a video.
Adult DVD Talk has never let people be rude to pornstars. Can posts get missed? Yes, clearly moderators can't read every post in every thread. But it has always been a part of the rules and enforced. If you want an open forum, you are free to open your own.
^^The problem with "Constructive Criticism" in general is that it's nearly impossible to tell it to a complete stranger because it's unlikely to be received in a positive way as they are a stranger and therefore if you offer a constructive criticism on a porn forum then it's unlikely to be viewed in a positive way and can be construed as being a rude statement rather than what you intended it to be because it's one stranger offering advice to another stranger. Add that too often the "CC" was maybe something the performer had no control over.
^Your comment was dead on because by their own admission they were offering what was supposed to be a free video when in fact it was really to the highest bidder which is a very different thing and the fact that you were rebuked for saying so would sour me my feelings toward that model regardless that they claimed it was the person handling their OF account because unless you are having some kind of zoom like video conversation. You still have no idea who you are talking to and therefore the person handling the models OF account of the model herself are basically interchangeable. In fact I would argue that most models don't handle their own OF account but use a service.
I assure you, that is not your right at all. Your only right here is to view what they allow you to view in the manner they allow you to view it, for the time they allow it to be viewed.
Again I'm not ignorant to the fact that people do download things, but we can't say that downloading them isn't against the terms of service. It is.