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Here are a few video links of porn industry insiders. This proves that racism exists in the U.S. porn industry and that I'm not insane like people keep telling me. Stoya Ace Aurora Snow Aurora Snow edited subject line Edited by - HeyNow on Oct 29 2014
You may or may not be insane, I can't say. But did someone try to tell you that there is no racism in porn? Because that person would likely be insane.
Calling someone who's never been to Africa an "African American" instead of just "American" just to make the point that even with all other things being equal, skin color still makes a difference important enough to warrant a different term, is racism. That you prefer Alexis Texas over Cherokee because a big white ass turns you on more than a big black one, is not. Of course there's racism in porn, just like there's racism in every single other sector of life. It would be really hard to believe that even egalitarian organizations like the Armed Services or Hollywood that make it a point to exist on the leading edge of social change couldn't quite fix the problem, but PORN could. There's no reason why porn, which is made up of people with no flow-down leadership that can impose itself on those below, would be any different from the society from which its constituents come.
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Posted - Oct 11 2014 : 6:58AM
Then why on a PORN forum like this one, are we told NOT to discuss it? If we do, we get censored, accounts get deactivated, threads get locked. If free speech is such a crime, why not lockdown this whole forum site?
^ Because all these threads end up in a fight , heated arguments with insults either between members and toward performers in same cases are even incorrect. People get banned stars go away and so , that is why but as you noticed when the discussion is polite and members respect everybody they leave it alone , they are giving this thread a chance right now for example. I myself find there's a difference in treatment toward black girls which maybe racism in some cases even though not always , and I myself am promoting some black girls on this very forum, those I'm pointing out really deserve this as performers , but black girls as a whole deserve this some of them are just amazing and criminally underbooked Edited by - LCF on 10/11/2014 7:30:16 AM
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Black men are treated horribly. Why is it, they won't come out and expose this industry like the racist industry that it is? Black women aren't expected to turn down scenes with white men. But they are in some instances encouraged to refuse work with black men. Black men are shitted on. The work they could get is denied, because of the politics of race and the way the white men control the narrative. They plant the seeds of racism in this industry with lie after lie in the heads of white/asian/mestizo/even black women about black men. Justin Long exposed this. Edited by - Curtom on 10/18/2014 2:33:15 PM Edited by - Curtom on 10/18/2014 2:33:57 PM Edited by - Curtom on 10/18/2014 2:34:25 PM
Of course there's racism in porn. There's racism in most aspects of society to varying degrees. What I see in these IR discussions isn't that there isn't racism in porn it's usually people trying to point out that the simplistic notion that if a girl doesn't do IR she's a racist or if a studio/company doesn't produce IR or feature black women as much as some people want they're racist isn't automatically true. Sure, there are girls in porn who are racists and see having sex with a black guy as a negative thing they don't want to do but with many other girls there are girls who don't do IR for various reasons that don't make them racist. The same thing applies to studios that produce porn. When these legit reasons are pointed out some people simply don't want to hear them. And the ridiculous arguements about it often get ugly or out of hand and the thread gets locked. But that's what happens online with people. When some people don't get what they want they attack the people who produce or supply whatever. A person wants a girl to do IR and she doesn't so she's obviously "racist". A person wants a studio to shoot more anal and they don't so that studio obviously doesn't listen to fans. A person wants to see more close ups during sex scenes but the director doesn't do that so obviously that director doesn't know how to shoot porn. A person hates boobjobs so any girl that gets one is obviously stupid and following the crowd. I personally see the word "racist" as a very strong and negative term and don't like to see it just tossed around so casually. In most cases I see here the word doesn't even apply. A month ago Nikki Benz was probably labelled "racist", now she has a DVD of her having lots of IR sex that seemed to have no problem shooting. What happened? Was she racist all that time then one morning it just suddenly went away? Did the fans badger the racism out of her? Some people don't want to hear that she was never racist but made a career choice that they simply didn't agree with. Yeah, there's racism in porn but most of the discussions on these board don't offer up any real proof of who exactly is racist other than "I want to see this person do IR and they don't so they're racist".
Draxxx has given a great account of why this happens.And yet, looking at his movie profile on IAFD, he is still doing interracial porn. Edited by - flash on 10/11/2014 9:59:43 AM
Do you have any proof of this (in bold) or you just assumed everything by yourself? Justin Long posted on this very forum what he said there plus an addition , he said that he fucked in private some of the girls who don't do IR on screen (refused to expose any name though) he couldn't understand why they were fine fucking blacks in private life but refused to do that on screen not even with him a man they knew well. Now I see a contradiction in either the stars and him , the stars only took in account his skin for work reasons and him to insist on fucking girls he already fucked but on screen, he is a pro he knew a star has to save something to prolong her career . Whether he agreed or not it's not for him to choose, nor us. He did make a choice racially drive and refused to shoot IR for a while he came back shhoting IR this year though, not enough work on the black only side of porn , and as I see he's not getting booked very much even now, which is bad because he is a good looking , solid performer who always delivers
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The reason he can't get work, is the reason many other black men cant work because they are stripped of the opportunity to work with half of the white female talent who aren't shooting interracial. I love Justin Long, he had the guts to expose this industry for it's discriminatory practices. Unfortunately for him, being a one man band cant bring you much change. That's why black men in the industry need to stand up fight the discrimination.
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Posted - Oct 11 2014 : 5:27PM
I would like to also state the obvious... the world isn't just black & white. There are other races out there, too. I don't really have numbers/stats to back it up, but I think Hollywood is much more "racist" than the adult entertainment industry, based on proportions of A-listers that are also minorities vs. porn stars - bona-fide STARS - that are black, Asian, Latino/Latina, etc. Jessica Bangkok
Maybe you didn't notice but he was everywhere when HE HIMSELF decided to not perform IR any longer , the lack of work he has been experiencing was in Black on Black scenes , not enough of them. Also who are those black performers stripped of what opportunity? Prince is everywhere for example , fucked almost every girl who does IR and even some who don't usually, Mr Marcus was everywhere, Now Rob Piper , Jovan Jordan , Isaiah Maxwell and Moe Johnson are hired consistently and these are the new guys , not only in movies but also hired especially on some stars personal request for their sites. There are even IR fan claiming those guys are working too much because they would prefer somebody else. Are stripped off of what ? do you think they have the right to fuck every girl in the industry? Nobody has such right and shouldn't have , the right to say yes or no always lies on the girl ,it's up tho them, it's not for the male talent to choose who he wants, he has the right to refuse as well but not to choose undisputed , no talent has such right. there are HUNDREDS of girls who do IR , HUNDREDS many of them are new stars and some of them are simply gorgeous , do you really prefer a ONE scene Alexis Texas "stripped off" from Justin or another dozen from Jillian Brookes or Keisha Grey? Hell I'd rather prefer see him with them.
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Posted - Oct 11 2014 : 7:04PM
There is nothing racist about calling an American of African descent an "African-American." Are blacks who use this term expressing self-hatred? The late activist/revolutionary Kwame Ture (Stokely Carmichael) argued that African-Americans should drop the "American" and just refer to themselves as Africans. Was he a racist against himself and other blacks?
The simple and obvious answer is because when a girl has sex wth a guy off camera it isn't documented so the people around her who have a problem with her having sex with a black guy can give her grief about it because they've actually seen her do it. I've said this before...I'm willing to bet a lot of the girls who don't do IR don't have a problem doing it but know it will cause problems with family members, boyfriends/husbands, agents, or whoever. It's just easier to not do IR on camera and avoid the hassle. Some fans will be quick to say "stand up to them and do it..." but most people aren't going risk personal relationships in order to please some strangers who don't really care about them other than to get what they want from them. When things go bad those people will actually be there for them not some stranger on a messageboard or follows their tweets. I think the best advice for any black performer would be to concentrate on doing their bet work with hundreds of girls who will have sex with them instead of worrying about the ones who won't. Making the decision to not have sex with the girls who will have sex with you to somehow make the ones who don't suddenly want to doesn't make a whole lot of sex and as demonstrated doessn't work at all. He only succeeded at hurting himself and disappointing the people who like seeing him perform.
^ I totally agree, I was merely stating what he said. There's another point , even among IR fans there are those who are tired of all that abusive (for lack of a better description , obviously it's all acted) IR , gangrape , forced sex, humiliating cuckoldry and so on, out of a BDSM context. Many porn consumers , not necessarily IR fans are tired of this and want more passion , a couple months ago I would have said with no reference at all about race , but you opened my eyes , it may actually be an attractive trait for many, I couldn't believe I couldn't see that, I myself am most attracted by the glittering skin of Ana Foxxx , I should have known better. There are some other considerations about that, but this is not the place , I had to rethink myself , such refusal to take note of the skin of the male might have been some hint of a hidden racist part of me I wasn't aware of , I'm still not sure , may also be a problem of identification with the performer when he's black , if nobody says it would be easier to imagine myself in there in his place.I'm still elaborating , it's a bad thing when you suddenly see another you in the mirror , especially when you don't like what you're forced to see. Anyway thank you I'm digressing, what I meant is that some stars may prefer scenes depicted with passion rather than stereotyped , they have no problem with IR made in a certain way, an example would be Kendra Lust , she refused IR for a long time and it is not stated in her profile yet she accepted to do one scene directed by Mimefreak who gives the performers some freedom and doesn't do it in a stereotyped way. Edited by - LCF on 10/12/2014 3:12:53 AM
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Black American is the proper term. It's about nationality and race. Black people in America can only trace their ancestry about ten generations back to slaves. They have no clue about where in Africa they originated. Moreover, whites are not referred to as European Americans. Charlize Theron is more African that the 40 million black people in America. Edited by - Curtom on 10/12/2014 5:04:12 AM
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If Kendra wanted to, she could have shot for Lex, Mandingo, JJV, WCP, non of which degrade performers. She more than likely wanted big bucks.
I can agree with LCF about the rape-y, forced or tricked sexual themes that involves many black male performers (they know who they are). That shit gets old quick, and it's hard to even finish watching them. Same stuff, different movies, and that's not including all the buzzkilling yapping that some do.
Whites are referred as Caucasian which is a European region , it is another way to call us Europeans , we used to call ourselves Indo-Europeans once- Also most whites know where they come from, they're called French-Americans, German-Americans, Italian-Americans and so on. Those descending from slaves do not, they only know their ancestors were taken from from Africa , thus African-Americans You don't need to go to Charlize Theron , Moroccans and Berber are Africans since over 2000 years , the Berbers are ther for more than 3.000 not to mention the Egyptians
I don't think there's a majority unless you count those one and done or the Europeans stars who actually have little occasions to perform IR there are possibly 4 or 5 black talents in Europe all based in different Countries. All I know is that at least 80% of MY favourite stars does or did IR , and I didn't chose them because of that, mind you Also , Unless you didn't notice Lex produces his own movies , he has bargaining power , how can he be denied work? He does what he pleases for example he just got Nikki Delano, was chosen for Nikki Benz first IR (as did Sean) was Chosen for Romi Rain's first IR , was chosen for Capri Cavanni return to porn and IR, waschosen for Siri first IR what are you talking about?
Okay...what I'm about to say isn't all directed at you specifically...I'm mostly talking in general based on stuff I've read people here say.... I don't think you had a "hint of hidden racism" as much as you (and others) are just perhaps trying a bit too hard to be politically correct. Skin color doesn't matter when juding others as equal human beings but at the same time being black and the black culture does have it's differences and some people of other races and backgrounds may find those traits appealling. I don't think it's a bad thing for a person to acknowledge that. White people can be attracted to black people for any number of reasons and I don't think one reason is more legit than another. I've heard many times of white girls attracted to black guys because they want to have babies with "pretty skin complexion". Some white girls get off on the idea that black guys are bigger and more agressive sexually. Some like the hip hop culture. Some like the bodies on blacks guys. Some like black athletes. Some like the skin color and hair texture. Some are attracted to the "thug" aspect. If a girl or guy is attracted to any traits of another person it seems odd that they wouldn't acknowledge that...even during sex. If a guy is into big breasts or butts he's going to mention it during sex (especially during porn sex). Is a white girl who's into bad boy black thugs and really any different that a white girl into a white ganster or criminal type? That's the ultimate bad boy and some people may like watching a good girl with a bad boy...it adds another level of tension. Why is it so horrible for a girl getting off to yell "Give me that big black dick!" when it's perfectly acceptable for a girl with a white guy "Give me that big dick!"? Acknowledging skin color is a bad thing? And there's talk of "passion" in IR porn movies. What, a white girl with big black guy or a "thug" can't have "passionate" sex? Maybe it's time to start paying more attention to the actual sex instead of the set-up or themes. Bottom line....you like what you like. The people who like the big black guy dominating the little white girl or the black thug with the pure white girl have likes or fetishes that are just as legit as the people who want to see a black guy with a white girl but don't want race mentioned...but I see them as more honest about it because really...what's the point of making such a big deal about a black guy working with a white girl then not wanting the fact that he's black even mentioned? If people were totally colorblind about they'd want that black guy because he's a good performer not because he's black. At least the people who like the stereotypical IR acknowledge that they want to see a black performer because of the unique things he brings to the table.
I guess I can get that but really is it that big a deal? It's acting. It's playing a role. No sensible person thinks the girls who do the stereotypical IR scenes are really that way in real life. Suppose all actors had that attitude? "I don't want to play a killer because they're bad people...". "I don't want to play a school girl having sex with teachers because teachers have lost there jobs over such things..." "I don't want to play a secretary who fucks their boss because it sends out the message that secretaries are loose...."...."But t's a-okay for me to get slapped and spit on and degraded in a scene....as long as the guy is white". I'm not saying any of this is true of Kendra Lust but I'm always amused by the often ridiculous lines in the sand some people draw for themselves in porn. "Yeah, 2 penises in my butt, no problem but if he kisses me I'm going to walk off this set...". Yeah, he can cum in my eye, spit on me, slap me around and degrade me but only if he's white...if he's black that would be racist.". A girl totally has the right to make those choices but I think they're odd choices and deciding to do something based on race is still bad even if what you're trying to do has good intentions.
I acknowledge it not directed to me only , but I wasn't trying to be politically correct , I hate that thing, what I mean is that I didn't even notice that I hated the notion of any skin color mentioned in IR scenes , and I had to figure out why I was so annoyed by that , at least until I realized that I'm myself attracted by the skin tone of some performers and that I myself like black girls a lot more than some of my friends and I do take note of their skin complexion. I couldn't find any answer , why was I so annoyed? That's the "hidden racist part" of myself I was talking about , I still don't know why that pissed me off. Of course I'm not a plain racist and of course there are many different views due to cultural differences not just White Black but also White European and White American ,many things escape me , I just can't get them As for passion I didn't meant that thughs can't be passionate , but it's hard to get this when they call a girl bitch and she she just calls out big black dick with no kiss involved. To each his own I guess but I do like passionate scenes outside of IR too, it's not referred to IR alone , I'm noticing that there's a lot more kissing than before in today porn. As for colour blindness well there are performers I like to watch regardless, Sean Michaels is one , maybe because he's a kisser
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Yes but they don't call themselves European. Nationality denotes country(s) of origin, not continent. Black americans can't refer to themselves by their country in Africa they are from. They were born in the U.S.
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The black veterans like Lex and Sean have less options that amateurs like Clover, who is not denied work by white/asian/latin/black pornstars. Clover, even though new, has practically 100% of the available girls who do boy/girl. Lex and Sean, despite their experience and work that they have put in, don't have the 100% of girls who do boy/girl. Why? because they are black. Think of it another way, in most industries, be it sport, film, politics etc it's the veterans who get the most bargaining power, they are the most respected and trusted in the industry. But in an industry that is riddled with racism, it seems that novice 18 year old girls who just come of the bus from a midwest town can dictate more that the veteran blacks. This is largely the result of racial overtones by agents since these girls are told boldly not to do interracial. Edited by - Curtom on 10/12/2014 4:02:59 PM
I don't understand why is so difficult to grasp the fact that Lex produces himself nobody denies anything , he doesn't face any lack of work, the guy you mentioned needs to be booked in the first place , has no choice, Lex hires who he wants , and is somebody says no , he just calls another , he needs 4 to make a movie , he doesn't have to call those who don't do IR, , have to just check an agency main page, select interracial and see who does it, then he can choose a girl among them. This when he's not called by some girls themselves who want him for their first IR , such as Angela White for example. Also what you say about Clover is merely theoretic , unlike Lex I don't see Clover in any JJV production nor in any EA (either Elegant or Evil) and I saw him barely in mainstream porn. Lex doesn't have to wait at the phone hoping somebody book him , Clover does, Lex does not , he plans a movie , check for some girls , makes a schedule ,hires a crew , chooses a set, and that's it. I wasn't aware that an Italian American like Robert De Niro was born in Europe , I thought he was born in New York , same for Rudolph Giuliani. African Americans cannot refer to Country of origin of their ancestors because they don't know what it was Could have been any place from Ivory Coast to Namibia , mostly from Senegal and Nigeria , but at that time such Countries didn't even exist they were colonies at best , just territories or even uncharted in many cases. Furthermore they don't know where they were taken also they don't know how mixed they have been between different tribes. The European immigrants knew very well from where they came , furthermore they can write and were allowed to tend a formal education hence they were even more aware of who they were. Slaves knew nothing but what they were told , weren't allowed to receive any education , could not read and write , didn't even know where they were aside what they were told , all they knew was cotton, all their world a plantation. You can't compare the way whites refer to themselves with how blacks do that , even the deported Irish enslaved at first , knew very well they were Irish had a notion of what America was and where it was in the world , those taken from Africa did not.
Draxx, nice succinct way of putting it. But you're casting pearls before swine. It bugs the hell out of me when people ascribe the simplest of all possible motives to others, but save all the perception of complexity and nuance for their own situations and decisions. It's as if they think that YOUR decision is so simple that I can readily point out why you're an idiot for not finding the obvious, but MY decision is so nuanced that YOU can't possibly understand why you are wrong and I am right.
That's not fair, Flash. A brutha's got to eat, and that doesn't weaken his argument... in fact it is completely orthogonal to the truth of what he said. What should he have done, re-opened his neurosurgery private practice that he closed down in order to be a pornstar? I give him points for at least recognizing bullshit and having the courage to call it bullshit, and having the eloquence to express it persuasively. Can we at least admit that when such a smart, affable, in shape, good-looking guy with a huge fucking dick is not an absolute A-Lister but has to pen such bitter regret, we might consider something wrong? What does Manuel Ferrara have that Justin doesn't? Even to make such an admission isn't going out on a limb too much; shit like that happens in life at large, too.
Friend, words are just abstractions. Utterances. Their meaning is inferred. When a black activist uses a certain term, it can have a completely difference connotation from when a news caster uses the same term. Especially when someone being black is central to the activist's argument, but in another it is completely tangential. Yet the speaker goes out of his way to provide useless information. And please understand that there is no Black Activist that speaks for black people any more that there is a single white one that speaks for white people. What you say he said is simply silly. Did he also say that German Americans born and bread in America, who have never stepped foot in Germany, don't speak German, can't find it on a map, should just call themselves German? That was clearly the worst of your arguments, referencing a guy like that as if I wouldn't find an issue. The rest of what you said was interesting enough that I'll just act like you didn't just generalize so severely and it didn't happen. You would find it strange if I decided to tell you that the lacquer on the desk I'm typing at is beginning to peel and I should probably get a new desk soon, wouldn't you? Because it's got nothing to do with my argument. Similarly, it's strange that when a bunch of criminals are white, it is not important enough to mention from where their ancestors came. Are they Irish Americans? Italian Americans? But when they're black, we have to know that they're AFRICAN AMERICANS. It's not the word itself to which I'm objecting... I don't see how a simple word could have the power to offend; the word itself is arbitrary. We could just as readily say WidgetLand. It's the connotation.
A few of you (more than a few?) would benefit from watching the PBS series FINDING YOUR ROOTS with Henry Louis Gates. Each episode traces three family histories and there's usually one uncovering that of an African American person with some degree of celebrity. African roots are obtained through genetic testing when all paper trails end. ---tb---
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Posted - Oct 12 2014 : 6:57PM
I never suggested otherwise.I asked a question: Was this civil rights hero a self-hating black man? Are blacks who use the term "African-American" expressing self-hatred, or are they just ignorant compared to such an enlightened individual as yourself? You've written a lot of words in response to my comment, including the pointless straw man I quoted above, and yet offered no answers to my questions.
Once again, let's please stop acting as if black people are so simple and uniform that there could ever be something that even approached being "the proper term". Some people will like the term. Some will be neutral. Some will vehemently oppose it. How could it be otherwise? What you mean is that your sample of one (you) like the term. But unfortunately, you, nor any other individual, has any particular importance next to a whole population. But I'll give you points for at least coming close to the history of black people in America. You could have gone further and said that 1) Black people don't come from just Africa, and 2) the history of black people in america is that they are so miscegenated that you can't speak anymore about a black person being of a particular nationality, only about a probability distribution from among geographic regions in Africa. And lets be honest about the nature of slavery; in that distribution you're also going to find significant European, too. Wonder how that got there. But my point was that we even need to say Black American, African American, or anything else, even when it adds nothing to the conversation, is racist. We don't do so for Americans of European decent, even when that is the only difference to be had.
That's only a Strawman argument if you didn't choose to say it because you thought that one specific case supported your argument. I won't assume again that everything you say is said for the purpose of bringing others around to your point of view. If I'm wrong in assuming that you cited a black guy saying African American as proof that it wasn't a vilified term, I apologize, as I did completely misconstrue it completely. So much, in fact, that I'd ask that you explain why you bothered to type it, if not to show a weakness in my argument. If you weren't suggesting otherwise, I can't guess what you WERE suggesting. And I also apologize for thinking your questions rhetorical. When I read a question, but can't really see how the answer either way would confirm nor disconfirm the point I think you're trying to make, I tend to think it's a rhetorical question and I'm not supposed to answer it. Sorry. Then I guess I'd say that No, they weren't self-hating, the connotation of the term accepted by them is just different. No, blacks that use the term are not self-hating for the same reason. No, they're not just ignorant compared to me, they sum total of their life experience is probably vastly difference from mine, and thus the difference in connotation. But these answers were not drawn from any profound well of knowledge. How could the answer have been otherwise? Couldn't you have thought about it for yourself for a minute, and arrived at the same answer a priori? And most importantly, how was your argument affected by my opinion? Can you see now why I thought these questions were rhetorical?
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Lex Can't work with half the girls, I said that already. Clover is not restricted by his race to work with girls. For lex your right he has to pick girls but he has limited options, clover can work anyone women the studios book him with. Black American is the appropriate term not African American since blacks are born in america.
This is still a completely baseless statement , first it isn't true that half (as in 50%) of the stars don't do IR your is a figure you made up , also Lex works A LOT more than Clover and as of yet already fucked on screen girls Clover can only dream of. Lex's "limited options" count some THOUSAND girls. Also he has not the right to work with any girl he wants. BTW do you know how many WHITE talents are even denied more than Lex? I'm guessing you don't , but think about it and just try to figure out who and why.
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Really? You I know very well that Lex can't work with many of the available girl/boy performers. Yes your right he has fuck thousands of girls but he has been in the industry far longer than Clover. Let me give you a better example. Rob Piper, who according to IAFD, entered the industry in 2013, the same year Clover entered, has only performed in 29 movies vs Clover who has performed in 56 movies. So look, even though they entered around the same time, the white performer has more opportunities given to him than the black performer. You can't tell me Clover isn't given more opportunities because he is white he clearly is. Moreover Like for like, Tommy Gunn who has been in the industry since 2004, has performed in 1279 tiles vs Lex's 1011 scenes, shocking lex has been in the industry since 1994 and still has not got as many scences under his belt. You can't tell me Lex if given the opportunity wouldn't work with the likes of Alektra Blue, Alexis Texas and Ashlynn Brooke and many more that Tommy Gunn has worked with multiple times before. Edited by - Curtom on 10/13/2014 8:33:59 AM
How is it that the performer who you state has all the possible opportunities given to him only has performer credits and the one you claim has far less already has achieved a directorial credit?
^^ Such statistic is flawed from the beginning as a first there are far less IR scenes than the others and black on black scenes are even less than that Thus , if you really compare their career you have to consider the percentages of scenes they could have shot They have roughly a 2:1 correlation between them, but the percentage of IR scenes compared to the others are a lot lower than that , possibly 1:10 2:10 at best , if you consider the number of scenes shot and the number of scenes they starred in you will find that Rob Piper is getting a percentage of the total a lot bigger than Clover. The other statistic is even more meaningless Tommy Gunn is a performer who stars on features, have maybe one scene per movie , Lex on the other hand Stars in every scene of his movies that means at least 4 scenes per movie , sometimes more , he is credited 138 movies as a director that means at least 700 scenes , to them you have to add all those movies dedicated to him such as Lex the Impaler series , or movies in which he shot several scenes , such as Chasing the Big Ones series and Little White Chicks , Big Black Monster Dicks series Lastly Tommy is not very active on websites, Lex was and still is. Lex starred in a number of scenes close to 2,000 Furthermore as said non IR scenes are exceedingly more than IR and All Blacks scenes , if you sum up the actual number of scenes available , again Lex wins by far. Also he may have not fucked Alexis Texas but he did fuck Sylvia Saint , a few times, up the ass too. Lastly I have to repeat yet again Lex produces himself the number of scenes he could shoot are limited only by his will and money. I can't think of a worse example to prove your point
You are describing the far left, PC Crowd well (With obvious unrelated exceptions).
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Posted - Oct 13 2014 : 2:00PM
If you are not able to shoot with many girls for whatever reason it is not rocket science that the person denied those opportunities with have less work. Why would an otherwise intelligent person like yourself, refute this? Regardless of whether or not Lex shoots his own movies is meaningless because if you ask him he will tell you that life is made more difficult for him to shoot many girls. Lex would have had 3,000 scenes more if he was able to shoot with many more girls. Ask the black males performers like Sean, Justin Long and Mr Marcus, they will tell you straight up that agents are dictating things. Ok maybe I should compare another black performer other than lex since he shoots his own but I guarantee you that black performer would still have less scenes. Also Tommy Gunn like you said is in features, which proves my point because black men and women are generally closed off from the avenue in porn which means again less work. Edited by - Curtom on 10/13/2014 2:05:41 PM
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Posted - Oct 13 2014 : 2:01PM
What a pointless response.
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Posted - Oct 13 2014 : 2:12PM
"Lex produces himself the number of scenes he could shoot are limited only by his will and money". - LCF ...and lack of options. I could give you a long list of women he could of shot within the past 5 years who don't do IR.
Let me explain you this straight , less work is when I want to fuck 10 girls but they only offer me ONE But if I want to fuck 10 girls and actually fuck ten girls how can you consider this less work? Because this is the case of Lex he fucks as much as he wants , no less. Also to perform in feature movies you need acting abilities not every black man can it's not a matter of skin, Prince and Lex perform in Features and parodies often (Lex is the porn counterpart of Samuel Jackson-Nick Fury) Tyler Knight performed especially in features, Mr Marcus did that very often either and so did and still does Sean Michaels Another thing , if they shoot say twenty IR scenes per day this is the total amount of work available There are scenes who are not IR hence it is not less work it is another whole thing There's no escape a black male who fucks a white female is a IR scene , and IR market isn't as big as white market , (see Brazzers to get the picture , they shoot tons of scenes only few of them are IR and this is the reality of all the Industry, is this racism ? Maybe ,Is this what their customer buy? Most likely they had three IR themed sites but all of them went out of business , they also ruled MOFOS with their Milfs like it Black, I don't even remember when they updated it the last time and that makes four sites going out) The market is limited , the number of scenes is limited , and this has a much wider effect on the work opportunities than few stars who don't do IR I'll put this another way there are women who only perform Lez scenes even though they are bisexuals or even used to perform straight porn a lot, would you say they are preventing from work all male performers? It's less work as you put it also black male performers work a lot compared to their female counterpart , but strangely enough nobody gives a fuck to this
Don't be silly he already issues two movies per month plus all the scenes he does for other companies and in feature movies , there are HUNDREDS of girls he could hire whenever he wants There's no obligation for him to hire all women on Earth If you say Lex and others black performers as pointed out by Justin Long have been victims of discriminations because of their skin , with stars refusing to perform with them because of their skin , I'm with you, but if you and others continue to put reasons who are completely baseless , unproven and actually really easy to be countered , then nobody will follow you. Justin Long was in demand had no problems to find bookings when he decided to refuse IR from then on, it wasn't a matter of less work, what really pissed him off was all those refusal because he was black, he felt discarded . If this what you mean with racism in porn I'm with you. Aside maybe some superstars black female performers are paid less then the whites , the market for black girls is growing but is still considerably less profitable compared to that with white girls (and this thread proves once again that even those who should care for them actually don't , they go after WHITE girls) even though Brazzers' site devoted to black girls is still alive and kicking unlike the others black themed sites they had , actually is improving I remember the very lame talents they used to hire at first , but no longer. Edited by - LCF on 10/13/2014 4:10:57 PM
How is that a pointless response? To me at least having already directed a movie shows opportunities that are available, whereas the other performer has not, which could very well indicate such opportunities are not available to him. And that is pointless?
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