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My point wasn't about what looks good or doesn't. My point was that, the person I was replying to seemed to indicate that he doesn't believe the woman is enjoying herself if she rubs her clit. Implying that he thought that if she really was having a good time, she would orgasm simply from the vaginal penetration. Which then implies that he believes that vaginal penetration along creates orgasms for most women. Which is not the case.
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CactusJack Deactivated User
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Posted - Aug 18 2019 : 9:47AM
And know you've repeated it so thanks. And apparently vaginal penetrations creates no orgasms at all in porn cause they all have to rub their clits as if their lives depends on it. I think that was the point he was making. That they've gone completely overboard with it, that it's now become super annoying.
^ You've made my point better than me. The problem isn't the rubbing, but the frequency. There are scenes where the girl spends the ENTIRE scene touching themselves, almost like they take no pleasure from the penetration.
Fly Eagles Fly Super Bowl LII Champions Nova Nation 2016 and 2018 National Champions 5180 Posts 2/16
Posted - Aug 18 2019 : 10:33PM
^ That seems like a huge exaggeration, Idk what kinda porn you are watching but I have never seen that. If a women is rubbing her clit who cares. If she wants to do it to orgasm and just because it doesn't matter.
But that's the thing. 75% of women will never orgasm from vaginal penetration. (Source: the internets) That's a huge number. And among the other 25%, it's not like they're gonna cum every time from vaginal penetration. For many of those women, cumming from vaginal intercourse is still very rare. So yeah, vaginal penetrations probably do create "no orgasms at all" in porn. Or at least very, very few.
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CactusJack Deactivated User
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Posted - Aug 19 2019 : 4:58AM
Well then it must not be true seeing you haven't noticed it. I find it odd that you're telling people what they can and can't hate in porn. Really really odd.
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CactusJack Deactivated User
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Posted - Aug 19 2019 : 5:01AM
We seem to be going around in a circle here. 75% that is a big number. Good thing they asked all women about it. I'm gonna have to refer to previous answers. You know the ones you ignored before and just repeated yourself.
Less identical crap, more sleaze and bush! 2378 Posts 7/09
Posted - Aug 19 2019 : 5:15AM
Great, I already hated all the fake moaning and orgasming, now if I see a girls clit not being rubbed throughout I will be even more certain its faked..
Nowhere did I see someone saying people can't hate scenes with girls rubbing their clits. What I'm seeing is comments on a woman's right or desire to come in a scene and that includes rubbing her clit because that's how most women come. Hate it all you want but it's still a reality.
^ This. I suspect this information about female sexuality makes some men a bit anxious and defensive about their own sexual experiences...
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CactusJack Deactivated User
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Posted - Aug 19 2019 : 9:40AM
A woman right! What are you on about? This is porn dude. You keep saying it's not sex ed but then you keep referring to it as if it is. And personally i have yet to meet a woman who goes to town on herself the way the girls in porn do during sex.
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CactusJack Deactivated User
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Posted - Aug 19 2019 : 9:43AM
Yeah we all live in caves and have no clue about anything. Secondly this 75% isn't scientifically proven. It's just numbers thrown around on the internet, but there's actually no facts behind it. And again WE ARE TALKING ABOUT PORN!
Fly Eagles Fly Super Bowl LII Champions Nova Nation 2016 and 2018 National Champions 5180 Posts 2/16
Posted - Aug 19 2019 : 1:11PM
Hmm did I say that? No, its a newb mistake I suppose cuz you are already highly annoying. Its and discussion forum and you brought it upon yourself so you might not wanna put words in my mouth. Btw the one you are arguing with is a mod so keep that in mind.
^^and ^^^just because we are talking about porn does not mean women are cattle.
Why shouldn't women be able to come just because "it's porn?" Wouldn't a more pleasurable experience maybe add to the longevity of one's career in the business?
It's almost like you're saying women should just be there, shut up and spread their legs until the director yells "cut." I'd be curious in finding if you think they actually should get paid considering "it's just porn."
As for the stats provided, a simple search on google shows that 75% is pretty spot on and has been scientifically documented.
I'm including a link to a study that seems to offer some decent info on female orgasms and why women have a hard time reaching one so if you are curious then please enjoy.
I don't like to see a performer in pain and by extension I would rather watch a performer that is enjoying what is happening to her or is so good at acting that I can't tell the difference and if that means that she needs to use a toy or rub her clit then by all means rub away.
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CactusJack Deactivated User
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Posted - Aug 19 2019 : 1:56PM
You know there's a lot of farting during anal. Maybe you would like more fart sounds added to the scenes. In fact sex is a lot more clumsy and dirty then porn. I'm beginning to suspect you guys have really had much sex. Hold on tight now cause this might blow your minds. It's not really like porn. And if you should end up with a woman who's this busy with herself during sex, chances are you're doing something wrong. We're all aware of women's soft spots so to speak and what gets them off. That doesn't mean you have to exaggerate it in porn. Some of us do find it super annoying, and that has nothing to do with whether or not a woman is satisfied. Maybe amateur porn is more your thing. Why don't you go have a look and see how much women satisfy themselves during those scenes. Either way for the love of god stop yourselves.
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CactusJack Deactivated User
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Posted - Aug 19 2019 : 2:00PM
I got news for you. Women in porn are there to do a job. Part of that job is selling a fantasy. If any of you have had sex in real life you would no that no women acts like this at all. And no it is not scientifically documented. A simple google search would actually tell you that. Are you seriously sitting here lying about it?
^I have (and many others) have engaged you politely but you are now on my "no longer reply list" as you seem more inclined to spew backhanded insults instead of actual discussion.
Ciao
As for what I hate in porn, scenes where the guy is obviously not hard and not going to get hard. I know everyone is on a schedule and booked for that day but why shoot (then release it) a subpar scene.
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CactusJack Deactivated User
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Posted - Aug 19 2019 : 2:27PM
Politely. You basically said i look at women like cattle. None of you actually respond to anything i say, you just repeat the same tired old argument. You expect a different answer everytime, don't know why cause you just go back to the same women have a right issue. And i'm the rude one. Go figure.
And oddly enough you just did again. Instead of giving a real answer you pretend i'm being rude. Do you or do you not want more farting sounds in anal scenes? If you want this to be real then surely you want everything else to be real too right? And guys not being able to get hard is very realistic too, how can that possibly be a problem for you?
I am not a friend of the farting during the anal sex scenes. In my private sex life, where I have practised quite a lot of anal sex, there was almost no farting at all. Thus I don´t know the basic of your statement about farting.
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CactusJack Deactivated User
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Posted - Aug 19 2019 : 2:32PM
Well trust me on average there is. It's scientifically proven.
Fly Eagles Fly Super Bowl LII Champions Nova Nation 2016 and 2018 National Champions 5180 Posts 2/16
Posted - Aug 19 2019 : 3:01PM
Maybe do yourself a favor and stop watching porn then. Porn is fantasy dude of course its not like real life...just like TV and the movies but maybe you didn't know that. I've had plenty of sex and some really great sex which is a hell of a lot better than watching porn. My ex girlfriend rubbed her clit sometimes but also came without doing it so every women is different and she ain't in porn. You brought this on yourself and can't back stuff up with stats like killbill so seems like you are the one talking in circles.
Fly Eagles Fly Super Bowl LII Champions Nova Nation 2016 and 2018 National Champions 5180 Posts 2/16
Posted - Aug 19 2019 : 3:04PM
Wanna back that up with stats?
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CactusJack Deactivated User
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Posted - Aug 19 2019 : 3:11PM
Well make up your minds. Is it fantasy or not? Cause women rubbing away like there is no tomorrow is very normal, and therefor should be in there, except it's a fantasy so...You all seem very confused about this, and keep going back and forth. I think maybe you guys have painted your way into a corner and have ended up with this contradicting argument. And it's anal mate, you don't scientific proof that there's gonna be a lot of farts involved. lmfao, that's kind of a given mate. And i think maybe you need to understand that saying you've had anal sex without there being any farts sounds so therefor it can't be true isn't a real argument. Everybody can make everything up that way.
Fly Eagles Fly Super Bowl LII Champions Nova Nation 2016 and 2018 National Champions 5180 Posts 2/16
Posted - Aug 19 2019 : 3:15PM
^ Lmafo cuz you can't back anything up with numbers and you are talking in circles and saying the same shit over and over. If something is scientifically proven there will be stats on it so your remark about farting is absurd. I will be sure to avoid replying to you in other threads. I've done anal with my ex girlfriend and she never farted.
Edited by - philly26 on 8/19/2019 3:17:05 PM
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CactusJack Deactivated User
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Posted - Aug 19 2019 : 3:22PM
Mate i kind of said that as a joke, because you can't actually back up your statements. You throw numbers around that isn't proven either. You litterally can't scientifically prove a specific number. But farts during anal is normal. The human body works in a certain way. You should ask a doctor about it.
Fly Eagles Fly Super Bowl LII Champions Nova Nation 2016 and 2018 National Champions 5180 Posts 2/16
Posted - Aug 19 2019 : 3:45PM
^ You are sure condescending. Another backhanded insult, but yet you say aren't guilty of that. You aren't gonna last here long mate. Btw don't call me that, got it? Good. You need to learn how to read and tell the difference between words and numbers cuz I haven't gave any numbers. Killbill did so why should I give the same number? I won't waste my time reading this silly article over something stupid...which you brought up. I haven't had a girlfriend fart during anal so I don't care. You're on my no reply list now mate Oh and here you go cuz you started this all. Women ask about playing with their clit during sex
Edited by - philly26 on 8/19/2019 3:51:33 PM
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CactusJack Deactivated User
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Posted - Aug 19 2019 : 4:04PM
But you asked for proof and i gave it to you and now you don't wanna read it because. And then at the same time link to something cause you then expect me to read that after you just ignored my link. Wow are you doing well here. And i've never actually denied that some women can only come by playing with the clit. I said they take it way to far in porn. Way way too far. It's that i have no argument so i need to take a few steps back and repeat myself that you guys do. You guys have no foot to stand on here.
Has IAFD.com started tracking farts in scenes now?
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CactusJack Deactivated User
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Posted - Aug 20 2019 : 11:04AM
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Sounds about as useful, and interesting, as 90% of baseball statistics. Which means that somebody will start tracking it now that the idea's out there.
Fly Eagles Fly Super Bowl LII Champions Nova Nation 2016 and 2018 National Champions 5180 Posts 2/16
Posted - Aug 20 2019 : 3:28PM
^ Baseball has stat cast which I think was implemented in 2015...maybe the next will be porn cast lol Quick let's trademark this and make some money lol
^ When Manuel's fucking a girl in the pussy, doggy-style, there's a 58% chance of him pulling out and slipping into her butthole. There's a 14% chance of pulling out and shooting his load on her ass and/or back.
Fly Eagles Fly Super Bowl LII Champions Nova Nation 2016 and 2018 National Champions 5180 Posts 2/16
Posted - Aug 20 2019 : 4:41PM
^ Awesome! lol There is also a 12.73% chance he will cum on her boobs and the exity velocity of his cum shot is .50 mph Since Stats Cast has Amazon as their sponser I say we go with eBay
Less identical crap, more sleaze and bush! 2378 Posts 7/09
Posted - Aug 21 2019 : 1:17AM
Must say I think CactusJack was hard done by..As he said this is porn not sex ed.
90+% of scenes end with a girl getting cum shot all over her face and in her mouth and on her tongue or that she swallows, is that pleasurable, no.
What about anal, DPs, air-tights, blowbangs, gangbangs, is any of that pleasurable I expect not.
Porn serves one puprose, and that IS to soothe the male ego, and on the subject what we want to believe that out triumphant cock alone makes girls reach orgasmic nirvana.
I am sure nearly all men are fully aware of clit stimulation in real life, but in porn again as he and nerdn7 said it gets in the way of the view.
Huge fan of Gore Gore Girl but think everyone jumped to her side when the subject of womens satisfaction was raised by her.
Maybe foreplay will be next to get someone banned, that instead in a porn scene it should show a guy turn down a long weekend with his mates and spend it all 3 days with the girl, with long trips to her favourite places or little gifts or other things that show something she mentioned in passing he took notice of and he actually listens to her, and over the 3 days are sensual touching and kissing and sexy talk, and he always treats her like true gentleman, and on the last day after watching her 3 favourite chick flicks and a long candle lit dinner..
No, foreplay in porn is a 3 minute slowmo of her teasing in some lingerie to some dub-step, before its cuts to a hard cock being rammed down her throat.
As said this is porn not sex ed.
Edit: And coming from me, someone who has said repeatedly here I wish there was more intimate sexual scenes.
^ killbill brought it up. I also left the conversation quite a while ago. I don't particularly like being cast as some sort of ringleader and I don't understand the motivation behind your post tbh. Peace.
1- I still don't know why people saying girls have a right to pleasure in scenes is tagged as "sex ed".
2- I know and have dated many women that liked cumshots to the face, mouth etc. and find anal DPs etc. pleasurable. Why do you assume that women in porn would not like some of these acts?
3- As for defending CactusJack, feel free to die on that hill if you want but judging by the message he sent to admins and the trolling he did here he seemed to be begging to be banned.
4- I had no idea Gore Gore Girl was a woman
Just to respect the thread I would say I dislike/hate spy cam-type porn. I find that most times they are shot poorly
Maybe its because there is so much porn produce these days that we see so much of it we get biased from it, but there is a lot of stuff that annoy me in today's porn
1) Bushes/pubic hair (as discussed in my thread)
2) Too much tatoos. I am fine with some small tastefull ones, but when your body look like a graffiti wall... nah
3) Too much 1 on 1. It seem there is 400% more porn shot today than in the early 2000s/90s, but the same ammount of gangbangs/blowbangs. Even just 3 on 1 would be a start. I get that you don't burn the new girl in a gangbang for her second scene, but after seeing her in 1 on 1 for 10 times, im starting to loose interest, give me a 2 on 1, then some anal, then some swallow, then... you get the picture, build her up, im fine if it take 2-3 years for her to make her first gangbang but i don't wanna wait til she is 35 and completely changed... Thats even worst when an actress get interesting suddenly and then leave. For instance Capri Cavanni, she started doing interracial, some 6 dudes bukkake etc and then boom gone... oh cmon lol
4) The introductions are just so lame... again maybe its the volume but of all those skits there is maybe 1 on 12 i find interesting... I got so many good concepts in my head... if only i had the means to shoot porn (im not even in the US lol)
5) Having an actor play the friend of her "son" and he fuck his friend's mom, but they look to have the same age or she look maybe 5 years older at moss... If you want this to work, you need a 36+ years old actress with a 18/19 years old male actor that DO LOOK YOUNG for the fantasy to work.
6) Exclusivty Contracts... especially when they waste an actress...
7) As someone mentioned, i would like more "reality" and more teasing. Grope on the cloathes... have cloathed blowjobs, stuff like that.
8) Have a professional hair dresser/make up artist on pro sets. I do love amateur porn and im totally for pornstars to shoot some "au natural" stuff for their own website/onlyfans etc but when its a professionals shoot, unless the scene dictate otherwise, i like that the make up is top notch, and i like seeing fancy hair dressing style. Thats a way to keep fresh an actress who has been shooting for multiple years.
9) Involve more extras. If you shoot a "teacher's porn", don't have a class of 3 students... it looks fake...
10) There was a line up call Pornstar Punishment from Brazzers, i would like to see this or something close to this back. I felt it had the good ammount of domination without going into abuse/disgusting stuff and it was always with known pornstars, not "low budget amateurs" like some other domination site shoot. This line is some of the rare scenes i still look at today on a semi regular basic. Madison Ivy with Jordan Ash for PP is one of my all time favorite scene.
11) More male actors, more average looking male actors ! This may look dumb because the male actor is mostly a "stunt dick" for most guys, but part of the fantasy for me is to see the pornstars get banged by different dicks. I like when the dude is average looking because it looks more like me, it give me the fantasy that i could bang a girl like that. When i see "Girl A" shoot with Keiran Lee for the 32 time in a 1 on 1 scene... nop the interest is not there anymore.
Is that scene included on a DVD? I can't find it anywhere. It's not listed in iafd.com.
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Posted - Aug 29 2019 : 9:58PM
The scenes now seem to have repetitive scenarios: the step-father, step-brother, etc. family member, masseuse, etc. Too close on many shots, would like to see the chicks whole body in the position she's in at the time. You can do close ups but still show some full body. Too many VR scenes for this old-timer, I'd like seeing the actress screwing in full, normal view not pretend she's sucking or fucking me off. BTW, is there an easy way to set them on plain view, so I'm not having to mess with my laptop's touch screen and avoid that double fish-eye view ? Seems like the stuff now is more politically correct and not as hardcore & dirty as say between 2006 - 2015 era. Not as much dirty talk, shit talking, or groaning when these guys are shooting their goo ( Not humiliation talk, but these guys are so unexcited when they're nutting in these fine women ?) Editing out short scenes where the actress takes off clothing, takes off shoes, or ignoring the shoe shots all together. You got so much video time to include that now, as compared to the 7 minute loops of the 70's or 115 min VHS's of the '80s-90's. Take advantage of the small details, they make for a HOT skin flick. Not a homosexual, but a quick flash to the guy's face while he's cumming and making noise / smack talking, then go back to the actress view makes it more believable and hardcore that they're into it. This happened in 80's porn, although with other horrible editing and lousy video quality. Now we got awesome quality, long video times but the hardcore grittiness seems lacking compared to the old days.
Lesbian Trainer 4 (Sweetheart Video) - review by Captain Jack
Posted - Aug 18 2019 : 5:34AM
Oh and here you go cuz you started this all. Women ask about playing with their clit during sex
I am indeed.