The reason so many people here are anti-OF is fairly obvious and simple. The people here aren't the target audience and have trouble seeing past that. Just because OF is porn related doesn't mean the porn watchers here will be into that platform. This group is clearly into the porn studios and porn studio subscription models. That's what they want and OF isn't that. Since it isn't that they've made their mind up OF isn't good. You've brought up example after example of the good sides of OF and the people here ignore it, or dismiss it or attack it. If OF was the huge horrible rip off that some of the people here are claiming it to be the platform would be dying off because you can only fool people for so long. But is that happening? That doesn't seem to be the case. It would seem OF offers different types of appeal that it's members gravitate to and it's clear that some people in this thread have no interest in those aspects of the site and keep going back to the fact it does operate like a typical mainstream studio site.
Just like the people who go on threads to constantly complain about about a studio not being any good because it doesn't give them what they want...Some people just can't grasp not everything is is made for them and just because they don't like something that doesn't mean it's not any good. That added to the fact that a sizable chunk of this site is people being negative and complaining.
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Posted - Jul 27 2021 : 8:44AM
I am a big OnlyFans fan, but not because OF is in any way perfect (lack of previews or account details, some models not answering DMs), but because in some cases the model offers great and unique experiences with her that I cannot get at any other site. And some models offer their customs only at OF.
I once subbed to Jasmine Rouge, for instance, and it was kind of cool to get a custom from someone you lusted after from almost 20 years earlier and wished to have been with back then. So with the right model, OF is a dream come true, a long-awaited dream come true. Especially if she has taken care of herself.
I also have a kind of fetish for a certain type of face. I figure maybe 1 in 2000 or 3000 girls has the look. I like an expressive, soft-featured "open" face like that of Sunny Lane or Amber Peach. If I see a model with that type of face randomly on the Internet, I will look to see if she is at OF or MV. Then I take a chance if the OF subscription isn't more than say $12.
I find it is easier to set up a truly creative custom through OF than through MV, even though MV has a checklist of options. A number of girls who do customs do not actually mention that fact before you sign up.
So yes, that part of things where you do not know as much as you like is an adventure. And it is a kind of bonus to find out that your dream girl does do customs.
Before the internet, when I got my high-school graduation yearbook, I had wished there were a worldwide yearbook to pick out my favorite faces. Now we have that, and the girls, too.
I like old Clint Eastwood movies, and OnlyFans really is kind of like the Wild West, but with a much prettier cast of characters.
I keep hearing that nobody talk badly about C4S and MV like they do OF. I have some bad experiences with MV.
One time I ordered a custom from a trans couple. First time ordering a custom through MV. I filled out the form for my custom and explained exactly what I wanted. I even had back and forth messaging with the couple explaining exactly what I wanted and how I wanted it just to make sure they got it. The custom still wasnt what I wanted. Now it was still hot so I didnt complain. I just messaged them saying they left out a few key details I wanted. They apologized and told me I can get something from their store for free and I did so it was cool.
Another bad experience was getting content from MV. I got a bunch of vids from Mindi Mink. She is one of the sweetest people to know and I adore her. I thought I was getting a ton of awesome content but realized some of the content I was getting was the same thing just described a different way. I messaged Mindi on twitter about it and she apologized. She said she was updating her vids to make them organized so thats why some vids were like that. She did offer to replace those vids I had with new ones of my choice and she did exactly that. No harm no foul and it worked out great in the end. Again she is very sweet and I adore her and how she was able to fix the situation quickly.
Another bad experience was with Ember Snow. I got two vids from her and both were badly out of sync from the beginning. I messaged her on MV letting her know. She apologized and explained to me that the two vids was shot unprofessionally by actual professionals from the industry. They used unlicensed music and was talking all throughout the scene. So she had to use things to cover up all of that. She told me to go to MV support and let them know and they would give me a refund. They did. No harm no foul in terms of Ember Snow or at least Im thinking her assistant. She apologized and help me fix the issue quickly. Im still a big fan of Ember. I think she is awesome and I will continue to buy stuff from her clip store. But the point was at least give people a warning in the description on the vids so that it will be up to the customer whether or not they still want to get the vid.
So Im saying all the bad experiences Ive had with MV. Does it make MV bad? Nope. I use MV alot and actually think its great. I prefer MV over C4S and Modlehub. The point Im making is just because nobody talks about the bad for MV doesnt mean there arent any. Nothing is perfect. At the end of the day it comes down to are you satisfied and do you enjoy the experience? Not completely bashing something because you the individual dont like it. Plus regardless if you the individual dont like it OF gives the performer more power and options. It could help create something even bigger and better down the road from the success. Maybe one day the models could leave OF and have their own site where many get together and run together. I thought something like that was going to happen awhile back with I think Kenna James, Shyla Jennings, and more but I dont know what happened for it to fall apart. So while change can be hard it can also be better and not always for the worse. Maybe it will humble some of these agents, directors and studios that think the models need them. So again I fully support the models who decide to go all in on OF and focus on their brand if thats what they want to do.
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kronas77 Deactivated User
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Posted - Jul 27 2021 : 11:56AM
Very true, Draxxx. With regard to what one person likes and another may not, this can even apply to a given model. There are a few "balloon boob" models I have interacted with on sites like OF and MV, and I am actually there for their cute faces, and not for their trademark boobs.
There are valid complaints about OFs and some people will have good experiences and enjoy it which are valid, others will have a negative view about the site which is also valid. I do feel as though some complaints are against certain content creators like the ones who try to resell old studio porn scenes that they were in for $30 that you can find streaming for free and that there are other creators that have very good sites who are bringing value to their product.
But positive or negative the opinions about OFs are valid and have a right to be expressed.
You do realize that not a single one of your examples is actually a bad experience. A bad experience would be if in each case there had been nobody to help you and/or disregard your complain and do nothing to satisfy you but unless I misread you. In each case you wound up a satisfied customer.
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kronas77 Deactivated User
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Posted - Jul 28 2021 : 8:11AM
He had the "bad experience" of not getting what he wanted initially, but as you say it did work out great. I see both sides here.
^ Exactly. It was bad experiences regardless of how anyone spin it. Just because the problem was "fixed" and I use it loosely because the custom video I would say the problem wasnt fixed because I still didnt get the custom the way I wanted. The couple just made up for it by giving me a free video. The only thing positive I can say about MV over OF is that their support team is 1000% more helpful.
People, including myself, have bad experiences on OF just like MV the only difference is MV is seen in a better light so nobody post "Manyvids is terrible, why do people like it?" thread. Again Im not trying to come down on anyone who thinks so badly on OF. Im just saying when so many people say nothing but bad things about it especially those who have little to no experience with it thats what annoys me. If you or anyone had more experience with it Im sure you will find A positive thing about it unless all you are looking for is nothing but bad things in which I could do that if I wanted too. But I didnt sign up for OF to concentrate on the bad things. I do understand if the bad things overwhelmed me Im smart enough to back away. But for me its a separate talk from OF the site itself v OF each individual account. I feel like people lump those together to try to really make OF seem like its the worst thing ever but again its not.
I've had more 'negative' experiences on OF than I have had positive ones. But, the positive experiences were vastly more satisfying than the negatives were detrimental to my opinion of the performer or the platform.
It's a complex equation because it goes beyond paying for a sub and judging the site on the content you get in return. We now factor in the interaction with the model, or her mgmt svc in some cases, along with the value we receive from the payments made.
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Posted - Jul 28 2021 : 10:18AM
Equal opportunity to voice an opinion does not imply equal relevance of each opinion.
The philosopher Plato was against Democracy, the placing of the fate of a nation in the hands of the "unthinking" masses.
The internet has laid bare the illogical ways in which many people "think."
Look how often people with differing opinions condemn each other instead of focusing on the opinions themselves.
First, yes, let us hear your opinion. Then, let us hear your credentials. Or vice versa.
I have a relative who recently asked if the value "one third" meant 75%.
I no longer feel bad when we disagree on some things.
^^ It depends on what someone considers a "negative" and a "positive" experience. For example, if someone gets kicked out of a live show then yes its a negative experience BUT I could also say YOU caused getting kicked out for being a jerk or being disrespectful. Ive been in many live shows on OF and Ive seen like a few times a model kicks out someone. Models dont like to do it but some people just are too much and the model has no choice. Blowing up a girls DM is not a good look either so if you get muted then yes its a negative experience BUT again YOU caused it. Again Ive subbed to 75 OF accounts and never got kicked out of a live show, blocked, or mute.
I was threatened to get kicked out of a live show on MV though which is again another bad experience. It was nothing I did honestly. Since I didnt know my way around MV being new I accidentally clicked joined a live show when I actually was trying to look up models to view their clip stor. So I accidentally joined this model live show and she said either I pay tokens or she will kick me out. And the kicker was I literally didnt even know what was going on because it all happened so fast and it was overwhelming. So I didnt want for her to think I was doing it on purpose so I tried to apologize if she thought I was doing it on purpose then I left. It seriously bothered me because I thought she thought I was disrespecting her. So I went on OF and had a chat with Sinn because I knew they was close because I remember them doing scenes together. Sinn just told me thats how she is at first with because she dont think many people support sex workers. Which I understood especially at that time where everything was on lockdown so many people in the industry was struggling for income so OF and MV was their only true means of support.
Its not about disagreeing because its natural to disagree. Its like when you first ride a bike. You fall off. When you fall off do you say, Im never riding a bike again because its a bad experience? You bruised your knee or something. Then you get back on and fall off again. You keep falling off so you have plenty of bad experiences but you keep trying until you get the hang of it and then you dont fall off and you start to enjoy riding the bike. Now doesnt mean you wont ever fall out. People ride bikes and hit something and go flying off and hurt themselves badly. Even then they still go back to riding the bike. Why? Because they enjoy everything that comes along with riding the bike more than they think about the times they fell off and hurt themselves. But its them having experience riding the bike to help them learn how not to fall and enjoy it because the lack of experience they kept falling. If they just quit then they would have a negative emotion towards riding bikes.
Anti-OF people are the same way. I couldve easily came away from my first experience on OF and say yup its exactly what I thought. It wasnt good. I didnt. I gave it more of a chance and found out its not as bad as I thought. Not saying it doesnt have bad things about it but its not all bad like I anti-OF people will make it seem to be. Nothing is good about it so they list every bad thing. Not saying that they arent wrong. There are definitely bad things about OF but dont act like its all bad and there is no good. If there was nothing good about OF it wouldnt exist this long. Eventually all the negativity and nothing good about it would catch up if it was 100% bad like so many people are saying it is. Thats all Im saying. Its not about disagreeing its more to do with putting everything into its right place.
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kronas77 Deactivated User
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Posted - Jul 28 2021 : 11:19AM
^ So basically Don't throw out the Baby with the Bathwater. And check out more than just one or two Babies.
^ Exactly. Now I cant fault those who only check out one or two OF account dont like it and then leave. And yes I dont even fault someone for saying that they briefly checked it out and didnt like it. Its those who are so adamant about just how awful OF is and they have little to no experience with it that again annoys me. But thats to each their own.
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Posted - Jul 29 2021 : 2:24PM
Going back to that point about OnlyFans having to enforce previews on locked/PPV videos, I second that suggestion.
One prime example of this is Keiran Lee's recent messages. lmao, dude's descriptions sound like Jeopardy questions. This was a recent PPV description "When she said she was retired I was gutted......when she came back and asked me to shoot content I was happy....Who is this returning super star?"
I agree that there should be no blind purchases, you should know the length and actual content in a video/pics prior to buying, but I've also never had a model not tell me what was in the offer prior to buying. It can be a shady way to do things but if the models are responsive when asked it comes down to how much do you trust what she's saying.
I do agree with the blind purchases but you want to know an easy way around it? This is going to blow everyone away... You ask the person about the vid. Before you buy it you DM the person and ask what is the vid? Who is the vid shot with? And any other questions you can think of. OR you can always find someone that might be subbed to that same person that could possibly already have the vid and ask them about it. Ive been on both sides of the coin. Now Im not saying Ive never blindly purchased something and it didnt turn out well for the purchase. The reason though was because I did it off randomly just waking up. I saw a vid posted that didnt seem like it was something I already had and I got it. I shouldve asked the person first but I didnt. When I did go back and ask the person. Mentioned how I purchased a vid I thought was new but come to find out I already had it I asked could I get a replacement. I told her the vid I wanted because I didnt have that one and she sent it to me asap. Everything was good.
But again I do agree that whether its the content creator or the services they do need to do a better job at describing the vids and putting a preview. Some models are great at doing it for pretty much everything they send out while others arent great at doing it. You just have to find those who are great at doing it. Another thing that helps me is twitter. Even if they dont put previews or trailers for vids on their onlyfans they will do so on twitter. They tweet and retweet and constantly mention it. I for one know Abigail is great at doing it. Regardless if its an old scene or a brand new scene she has coming up. So its hard not to know.
The first OF account I joined was a free account. The entire 30 days I only spent what MAYBE $10. $5 in the DMs and $5 in live show which was really fun. The overall experience at least for me was that the content was super expensive and thats why I didnt buy any and when my sub was up I didnt renew. I wasnt taken advantage of in any way. Then I moved on to the next few OF accounts that wasnt free but they were like $4.99 and $5. The content was cheaper than the OF account that I previously joined and the quality was great. Yes I had two somewhat bad experiences but thats because I was still new and learning. I definitely wasnt taken advantage of. I thought the content prices was reasonable, the live shows were great, and the more and more I stayed a sub the more and more the model saw that I truly support them so they actually worked with me when it came to getting content and they enjoy and appreciate me supporting and being a sub and long time follower even before joining their OF. So again I wouldnt say I wasnt taken advantage of. Actually the one time I TRULY felt taken advantage of was when I had plenty of OF accounts under my belt and it was a random OF account from a model I followed for many years and enjoyed her work. I didnt do my research, which I shouldve, and it really wasnt her it was a service that I later found out is trash. So that more was on me for not doing my research. Had I done my research I wouldve never joined that OF account and gotten taken advantage of.
Long story short, if there is still time, if someone new joins an OF that is free and/or cheap and they sit back and just see how things are with that account without diving fully and paying tons and tons of money at first they arent going to be taken advantage of. If they see that the account is good they will stay and start to be more supportive. If they dont think the account is good they will not renew and it didnt cost them much if anything. Dont be afraid to ask questions. Yesterday on twitter Jenna Foxx was promoting a scene she released with Abigail. I said I saw it already from being a sub for Abigail and its great. This guy straight up said Im lucky because he cant find it anywhere. I told him all he had to do is go join Abi or Jenna OF and ask for it. Like its that easy. Im truly starting to think either some people dont like to ask or dont know how to ask about things and thats one of the reasons they feel like they have alot of the bad experiences on OF.
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Posted - Jul 29 2021 : 7:19PM
Good question.
I look at OF as a place where you are going on a virtual date, and you as the man will pay your own way and hope for the best.
If you can go with that risk, that makes trying the site out OK. This site is not an essential service. In my view the site itself is OK, but a lot of the models are not. My experience is that about half the models I end up wishing I had not subscribed to, and the other half I would gladly have paid twice the subscription price once I found out how open to various customs they were. So for me it kind of balances out as being OK.
I would say that the OF models have given me both the best and the worst of porn experiences.
The good news is that the worst is being out $10 or $20, instead of acquiring a disease or being accused of something, and the best is spectacular fetish customs (for me) that I could not get elsewhere.
Basically, you are right with regard to being taken advantage of. I choose to at least potentially get taking advantage of, in the sense that I am not sure a girl with a certain look will do customs, or a certain type of custom. It is kind of like going on a date. It is a kind of experiment. Who knows at first what she really has to offer?
The site is not owned by us, and so long as they respond positively to any complaints we have, I am good with that. They do appreciate feedback and have always been polite. They also ask us to submit any other concerns. I once ordered a $200 fetish custom from Charity Crawford at OF. She never did it. I requested OF give me a refund and they did. No question that the site needs improving. But really it is largely a matter of the girls themselves in many cases not marketing themselves properly. And yes at times promising way more than they deliver. A lot of these models seem to be living rather chaotic lives.
When I got ignored by Kelly Divine at OF, despite her saying she was always available, I figured it was a minor payback on my part for all the freely accessible videos I have enjoyed of her. But you are right that it does not make her ignoring me OK.
I would say that about half of the girls do the customs I am hoping for, which is actually a much higher batting average than I had expected. When you say that makes it OK I would say in the big picture no, but for me personally yes, but it is OK for a fan to take a chance and fully accept that this is largely a crap shoot, but with a very good chance of a big payoff.
^ some people like to get to the store and not be bothered by the store employees. "Just Browsing". Don't have to ask for everything. Just like the soup nazi in Seinfeld. Go in, know what you want and get it. Not interested in talking with the employees and asking for stuff. If you're into that thing - good for you, also like chatting with the talent, live shows etc. I'd simply want to see whats there, get it, and not be bothered to ask for it.
True but like I tell my friend all the time who will go to Wendy's and order #4 off the menu then complain about they didnt have what she expected it to have. I tell her she need to specifically tell them what she wants instead of just saying #4 off the menu. So if you want a specific vid dont just blindly click on a vid in the DM that you think MIGHT be what you think it is. Ask the person if the vid they just sent to the DMs the vid you are looking for it to be. Or just in general ask the person when you first join how their OF work. Thats what I always do. Get a feel for the room. If you dont bother asking then there is a greater chance you are setting yourself up for failure because every OF account isnt mapped out perfectly to where everything is just there for you not to ask. For everyone four or five models I have to ask questions there or two or three that I dont have to ask because everything is right in front of me clear as day. Then there is another two or three that someone already told me how a model OF is so I know what to expect before I even decide to join.
^Really because I went on Wendy's website and they are quite clear about what each burger includes so if your friend is still surprised after ordering a #4 then she didn't do any research prior to ordering. Now please tell me exactly how that is comparable to joining any OF account because unless you know something I don't then there is no easy way to find out what an OF #4 includes. I guess you can always ask the model but it's in her vested interest to be as vague as possible since she could have posted a description of each video if she wanted to be upfront about what in contains. You know just like Wendy's does with their menu.
P.S: I have to point out that unlike OF. Wendy's doesn't charge you to enter their store prior to ordering because the day they do is the day most people buy their burger elsewhere.
You just have to find that special Wendy's, where the owner of Wendy's (or perhaps only the manager for the joint) cries about how much he loves his customers etc... *jk*
Just like Jeff Bezos did, when he thanked all amazon customers for allowing him to go to "space"...
^^ Not every OF charges you. every time you sub. Most models are now having two separate accounts. One for free and the other they charge. Even before I knew about a free separate OF account by certain models, I can tell you how many times Ive joined the same OF account for free. Like literally free trail for 30 days, then its up I dont renew and in a couple of days another 30 day free trial for that same OF account so I join again especially if there is content I want. Not to mention some OF accounts will follow you so that you dont have to sub. You can get access to the DMs and not be a sub. I have at 5 girls that follow me as we speak.
I do get what you are saying about Wendy's. I was just pointing out that if you want to make sure you get what you want you ask specifically. If you dont know something you ask.
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Posted - Jul 30 2021 : 9:42AM
Slowly but surely? Nearly every chick I paid for on OF (mostly non-pornstar youtube chicks, glam models etc) were ripoffs (or worse) and their membership quickly died down, so those chicks burned what few (former) fans they started with and ended up closing shop within months (despite their content not leaking). That doesn't mean that new ripoffs don't spring up nor that the platform will die off as fast as scammy newbies, but as more and more dudes get ripped off they get less and less inclined to take chances again with OF. I went from a weekly expenditure to monthly to once a year, maybe. I'll spend my little pornmoney on any other potentially interesting niche/site instead.
This doesn't mean that all OF chicks are ripoffs and it doesn't change the fact that there are a lot of chicks who produce good content on OF and remain very popular (even in spite of their popularity leading to all their content getting leaked). But ripoffs are just going to reduce the amount of people willing to take chances with OF, particularly with newbies, further concentrating the OF spending on only the most established, popular chicks. Which IMO wasn't the appeal of OF to begin with. Most OFers clients were spending money to see smut of chicks they couldn't see anywhere else, which isn't exactly the case with the most popular ones who are also certainly big enough to run their own sites (and use a payment processor that doesn't put "ONLYFANS"/PORN on your bank statement ffs).
There is a lot of truth in this post. I do believe that OF will die out for the "ripoff" content creators and eventually newbies will have a harder time initially establishing themselves. The main issue though with OFs (both content creators and OF itself) is that often they are attempting to make quick upfront money and get as many subscribers or purchased vids in the first month before the subscriber gets bored and cancels to that content creator. The whole "get rich quick" idea.
Also, what is good is that the content creators are using trial and error to know what to charge for many of their videos and eventually they will find a good price range for THEIR subscribers, but IMO a lot of the content is still overpriced for the vast majority of the content creators on the site. I believe a lot of folks feel that way which is why I am seeing prices go down for some of the creators that I follow.
Edited by - silentscope11 on 7/30/2021 11:05:37 PM
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kronas77 Deactivated User
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Posted - Jul 31 2021 : 6:01AM
Hi, silentscope11.
My experience with the OF model Amber Chase suggests that she is using this trial and error approach. It is a logical way of doing things. Her first offering of a VR style PPV was $100, the next was $9 (see my post in this topic from July 22), and now she has an offer at $50.
It is important for us to see that not only are we as customers relatively new to OF, so are many of the girls as content creators. The site itself is still evolving. About a week ago, it began the autohyphenation of text messages.
^Is that really a question of trial and error or marketing 101? You create hype by offering a product at a very high price thereby limiting the number of people who can afford to buy it and then you offer a major discount which in turn opens the door to many people being able to afford it and since it's the same product that was offered at 100$ then those people will think they are getting a great deal.
I agree, the thing is that the $100 could also have gone down in price because a lot of folks won't pay that price also. My personal issue is my fav pornstar happens to have a OF site that is overpriced and the content is simply masturbation and twerk vids and when she does do a boy girl scene it is with another pornstar and she overcharges for that. She tries to charge $80 at first and then it begins to go on sale but still overpriced. LOL
I think they are trying to see how many folks they can get at the higher price if 20 people buy at $100 type of thing. Then when that slows they lower it to still make a profit.
I know one pornstar asking for $100/minute for a custom. I kind of see why because they want to only do serious inquiries.
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Posted - Jul 31 2021 : 1:04PM
There is no set OF rate. Each girl chooses her rates. Many girls at OF are also at ManyVids.com. See if your OF girl is at MV, too. If she is, at the bottom of her MV page, click Services, and see if the Custom Vid button is active. If you click an active one, you should be able to see her basic rate(s), and how much she charges for extras.
Using MV as a guide, I have seen Customs being offered at anywhere from $2 per min to $100 per min.
For the high-end rates: Save your money. Just sleep with her, and get it over with. lol
Expect a similar set of rates at her OF, although they are not usually itemized the way they are at MV. You may be able to negotiate at OF. Or just message her at OF if you are a sub. From a sub's perspective, every OF girl should indicate before you sub all that she offers and her basic rate(s), but few do. I recently subbed to one girl with not that many fans. She initially did not mention rates for customs, but now does. Perhaps because I have bought a few from her now. Most people are not comprehensive thinkers.
I have experience with custom video prices. They are different rates depending on what you want. Solos are cheaper but they can be expensive if you want squirting, anal, toys. If you want G/G or B/G then you are going to be spending way more money. My best bet if you are going down the G/G or B/G route on OF that you go to someone like Sinn Sage or Casey Calvert because they are the cheapest. Their customs in general are the cheapest compared to others. I got two custom videos from Abigail Mac and both werent too pricey. The first one she had a 50% discount and the second one she gave me a personal deal because it was my birthday.
Sinn Sage has girls that she have that are available to shoot customs for her studio either solo or with her and even with her husband if that girl wants too. So if you are interested in getting a custom from her I could tell you more about it. Sinn content is really good because she enjoys shooting customs. The one thing I am upset with myself is not being able to order a custom from her coming up because Kenna James will be available in August and I would love to order a G/G custom with Kenna and Sinn. So just bad timing for me lol.
Its cheaper on MV to get customs from Erotic Customs or 1111 Customs. Many models shoot for them and they are way more cheaper than getting a custom from those same models on OF. I havent ordered a custom from either studio but I heard someone who have order plenty of customs from them and he said they are the way to go especially Erotic Customs.
if the effort of her shoot is top notch, amazing quality has all the equipment(variety of dildos, props, costume etc) its justifed that's just me If she wants that type of money only because of her popularity, it's absolutely not worth it, rather pay $20/minute for amateur, thats has decent quality and puts more effort in
The reason why customs are so expensive is because we the customer is paying for a girl's normal shooting rate. Then we ask them to do what we want. Its like I had a good talk with a model one time on her onlyfans. She dont like to shoot a strap-on scene with someone using a strap-on on her. She just mentally doesnt feel right about it. So if someone wants a custom of someone using a strap-on on her she will tell them she dont like it but if the person charges a ton of money for it she wont turn it down. Obviously money talks. So I can imagine some models are asked to do things that they are uncomfortable doing so if they charge a ton of money and the customer is willing to pay it they will do it. Then for the most part customs are exclusive so the model cant make a profit off of it except for that one time so again thats another reason why customs are expensive.
Some good points you mentioned, thats why its important to me that's she genuinely likes what she is doing and not for sake of money I can sense that some are not used to it or particularly like it this way, communication is sooo important, some just don't communicate well or giving half answers
I'm very picky and paying attention to details, so I'm very hesitant to pay that much (over $500) if the intensity is not there it ruins the custom for me Her name or popularity is mostly uninteresting for me, if I pay over $500 I expect some intensity and not half effort, just take the cash I always ask if they can do it hard, fast or whatever comes in the custom and they say 'yes' then it have to be in the custom Mind you I do my research as how intense their scenes have been before
Its like a gamble in the casino , you still never know what the outcome is, and so far I have been mostly not happy about some of the customs
^ With 500$ upwards for custom clips, dozens of dollars in tips for only messaging with the actresses etc, I think we are leaving the normal porn (for which ADT was initially made for) and are entering the fringes of sex work that we are not allowed to talk here. And apparently everyone is cool that the new normal is paying through the roof for 2 minute solo clips. Ever thought 2$ per minute as in those phone sex ads (where you don't know who you ultimately talk to) was pricey? Well, that's obviously only the starting point.
Being very detailed is extremely important. Casey Calvert said if someone orders a custom from her she want them to be really specific. Dont hold back even if you might think its weird or might be embarrassed to tell her your fantasies. She want you to in order for her to know what and how you want your custom to be. I agree some people have a hard time putting into words what they want and how they want it. The first time I ordered a custom video it was from Abigail Mac. I really didnt know what I wanted because I didnt map out what I wanted in my head. Abigail said she would surprise me. I asked for a toy that she used in one of her live shows but I couldnt remember what it was. She used her favorite toy though that sorta looked like the one she had in her live because it was curvy. I told her to say my name so many times that she wear it out lol. Thats exactly what she did and the custom video turned out great. And I got the custom video literally before the day ended.
But I agree that the person you order a custom from they have to really enjoy making customs rather than view it as a chore or just only a way to make money. Thats why when I hear all these horror stories about people ordering customs and getting ripped off the one thing that they all have in common is Ive never heard anyone say anything positive in regards to their onlyfans or custom reviews. Abigail Mac, Sinn Sage, Casey Calvert, and Adriana Chechik comes to mind when I think of girls that do great customs. Ive only had experience with Abigail and Whitney. Whitney not with custom videos but custom pic sets and she do a fantastic job. She loves cosplay and I knew she would have fun with my cosplay custom pic set and she definitely did lol. So again it just comes down to who you are ordering customs from. I sure there are other girls who do great jobs with customs but those are the ones that I know of and/or experienced with that do great jobs on customs.
there are girls out there who get mad when you're very detailed and on their custom page, it says the more details the better Really not easy to find the right person to do the custom, biggest names out there might not even be able to fulfill how I want it to the key
People may order customs through OF but I don't think it should be part of this thread because there are free methods to order custom thereby negating the need to spend any money to join a models OF account so that you can then request a custom video. Custom video request can be ordered through other sources than OF and as lex as already pointed out. The cost of ordering even a solo custom video makes it the kind of porn that few are willing to order or can even afford to order.
Now it's a different story if you tell me that OF plays an important role in the ordering of custom videos in that they guarantee that both the purchaser and the provider are satisfied but somehow I doubt that is something they offer.
^ Not every model on OF has multiple methods or outlets to get custom content made.
You seem intent on stripping every positive aspect of the site away from the people who enjoy and/or support it, which is odd. You clearly dislike OF so why keep needling every post in this thread?
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kronas77 Deactivated User
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Posted - Aug 1 2021 : 11:39AM
One free method is to join ManyVids and make a request. But there are some models who only offer customs through OnlyFans. The cost of a solo custom video can vary tremendously. I have purchased very good solos from various models for $20-$30 for a 5 min clip. But a superstar like Sunny Lane may charge $100 per min. A common solo rate for let's say one of the top 1000 stars as rated at PornH** would be $10-$20 per min.
As stated before, I have seen rates vary between $2 and $100 per minute.
You are right that OF does not guarantee you that you will be happy with your custom, but some models do ask what you thought of the custom after you received it. I have had several free "redo's" if I could show she left out something major. One of the models I have used has ADD and so I allow for that. I see her ADD in basic conversation during messaging. I tend to ask for a lot of different things and I am not upset if she forgets one or two minor ones. I don't think she intentionally avoids anything.
But yes, get ready to sell your car if you want a bunch of customs from the superstars.
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kronas77 Deactivated User
469 Posts 4/19
Posted - Aug 1 2021 : 12:00PM
I think that so long as we get what we want, and you and the model have both agreed on a price beforehand, then she can charge whatever the heck she wants. As stated before, this custom stuff is not an essential service, nor is OnlyFans itself. We just wish the prices were lower, but that applies to just about everything we buy, right?
Although it is not talked about much, there is a jealousy component amongst a lot of guys, many of whom have to work their butts off to earn in a day what a top model might earn in 5 min. But that is just the way it is. I think it makes a lot of guys bitchy about the rates.
And just as almost every guy wants to earn as much as he can for his labor, so too does almost every girl.
On the other hand, if you agreed on a certain price and then after she made the custom, she said, "You know, this took longer than I had planned, so you owe me an extra $20," then I could see the beef.
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