^My wish has come true! I had actually written about wanting this pairing earlier in this thread. The sex should be amazing, but the story seems a bit dark, although there had been darker stories in the "True Lesbian" series in the past. Even more exciting is the prospect of Cherry becoming a regular on Adult Time/Girlsway, or even other US companies like Girlfriends Films, All Her Luv, etc.
^It's been half a year since a Jayden scene, so I'm not sure. But Freya certainly would be a great scene partner. I'll be happy as long as she's paired with someone who knows what she's doing, and there certainly isn't a shortage of these.
Jayden is my all time favorite since she started shooting. Unfortunately her scenes are more and more rare as time flies. I dont know why. This year she has only 8 scenes. She is a GG legend and still didnt shoot with many big names like Brandi Love, Blake Blossom, Freya Parker, Pristine Edge, Natasha Nice, Angela White, Abigail Mac and many many more.
^it could be soon or a very long time. There's a Sinn Sage Jessica Ryan scene for allherluv that must've been shot in or around February. Now it's almost December and it still hasn't been released. Waiting for this one to sign up for allherluv again. Although I've noticed they've changed their release schedule somewhat. Or at least the day they release new scenes.
Likewise I remember seeing pictures of a Nicole Doshi and Vic Marie scene on twitter some time ago. Release date is end of January if I'm not mistaken.
I don't think we had wait times this long in the past. But at least it's something to look forward to, unlike the crap that gets released on the regular.
"Many's the person missed the opportunity to say nothing, and lost much because of it." 1935 Posts 8/22
Posted - Nov 26 2023 : 5:38PM
I just checked out the new True Lesbian scene with Holly Day and Serene Siren. Wow, one of my favourite scenes of the year. It had everything I want from a lesbian scene, 2 gorgeous women (Serene is GLOWING here, she's so beautiful), sensual sex, a simple and (somewhat) plausible story/script, great "dirty" talk and the fake porn sounds are kept to an absolute minimum. It was 45 minutes, I could have watched them for at least an hour. There is a 69 but it wasn't too long and it was done well so I can't complain. Also, I don't think Serene had an orgasm but Holly had 2 that looked legit. Holly looked really gay in the outfit they had her in as well, good stuff. Well worth checking out imo.
Edited by - whyalwaysbilly on 11/27/2023 2:44:39 AM
A review of Switch Awakening, something I had high hopes for. Bit of a mixed bag, great performances by both women to be sure, just the same hampered majorly by direction and camera work.
That does look good! The pairings look quite interesting. I like to see body contrasts as well as age gaps in older/younger scenes so the cover pair of Demi and Queenie has potential. Demi has that cute young and innocent look that is just begging to be seduced and by an older woman. I see Dee Williams is in the last scene. I am not a fan of Dee's as she does not like to kiss properly. No tongue just lots of closed mouth pecks. a scene without great kissing always falls flat in my opinion as it shows the woman is not really into girls.
There was a warning before the scene. Warning should have been about how dull & ordinary this scene was. A gentle spanking? How silly.
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Posted - Nov 29 2023 : 3:06PM
Have a question for all you guys, If you were only allowed to subscribe and watch one and only one porn site for the rest of your life what would it be and why?
^that depends. Are we talking their back catalogue, future productions or both?
I would really hate to not be able to see past works of my favourites, which would make me choose adulttime, even if their current stuff plus prospective future productions aren't anything to write home about.
Excogigirls has some promise, but at one update per week, and small archive it's difficult to choose them, even if their current product beats the rest consistently.
Rk.com with wlt was a powerhouse as well, especially the Malèna Morgan era.
Vivthomas has a nice archive, even if their current stuff isn't all that great from what I've seen.
Wowgirls etc. Looks beautiful, but the action isn't something that tickles my fancy.
Sweetheartvideo has a magnificent archive as well. But the current stuff is really got or miss, and sadly it's mostly miss.
A revival of kissmegirl could be great, but that's a dream of mine I know won't come to life.
kissmegirl explicit was a thing of wonders. I put some of those scenes up there equally with the best of WLT.
Highlights that come to mind from the kissmegirl explicit series were Vicki Chase and Charley Chase Veruca James Skin Diamond Veruca James Riley Reid
There were others but I'm not thinking about it currently. It's kind of hard to find these full scenes together in good qualioty on the vod sites without spending a fortune because they split parts up and charge for each. Luckily I downloaded the full resolution scenes from the kissme site with a membership a year or so ago.
As far as backlogs, I have gotten memberships to all my favorite studios and downloaded the entire back catalogs. Now the current gg drought doesn't really bother me too much since I have a huge library already.
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Posted - Nov 29 2023 : 5:22PM
The current content of these sites isn't worth much, due to how performers are taught to act these days, but if we are talking about one back catalog forever, I'd probably have to make my subscription We Live Together, or perhaps Girlfriendsfilms.
Considering the thread, I am guessing you are referring to g/g porn. I'd go with We Live Together for the Lansky directed Sammie & Malena scenes. My 2nd choice would be Evil Angel mostly for the Belladonna & Jay Sin directed content.
I would say GF Films because of its old scenes. Some of the best scenes I've watched are on this site. I think We'll never see something like that again...
When I type in evilangel & jay sin, his movies appear on the site. Gone in what sense? Most all of the g/g studio porn worth watching was made years ago. i wish that wasn't the case, but that's the current situation.
If you sign up for a subscription/membership to EA's website, they are not there. You can still get them as VOD by paying them individually.
Also, suffice to say I don't agree at all that current productions are worse than those in the past. Some of that is no doubt subjective, but I would argue some of that is in fact objective: there are so many women today in porn who are very beautiful and just good performers in g/g scenes. Just to take two of the scenes I recently reviewed as examples: a scene between Victoria Voxxx and Nicole Doshi on Adult Time, and another between Sophia Locke and Blake Blossom on Girlfriends Films. Those are two excellent scenes with great performances by all. Per IAFD, Victoria started in 2018, Nicole in 2021, Blake in 2020. Sophia started in 2013, but only started doing "mainstream" g/g scenes in 2022 if we don't count Kink as mainstream.
Anyway, here is a review of a couple of scenes from an older movie that came out in Dec 2021, titled "1st Time Lesbian Massage." Two points of interest: it's from Penthouse Gold (which is why I missed it when it came out -- who knew they even produced new content at the time?), and the pairings are great.
The first is between Freya Parker and Lilly Belle. According to IAFD, this is their one and only scene together. It's a very good scene and as a fan of both women I'm happy to have watched it. Lilly's oral is hot and wet and sexy.
Freya's oral is of course excellent as usual. It gets even better when she pushes two fingers into Lilly. Unfortunately the last part of the scene gets boring as they just take turn using a handheld dildo on each other.
The next scene that I want to highlight is between Vanna Bardot and Whitney Wright. They had one other scene together in a different movie. This one is excellent. A couple of interesting things to note about this scene: it has a lot of extreme closeups that I have seen very rarely outside Laurent Sky from Slayed, and Whitney has these electric blue eyes that sort of catches me by surprise. Are those contacts, or are her eyes always so blue?
Here we can see Vanna going down on Whitney, and how she feasts on Whitney's (presumably) delicious clit.
The top two images are Whitney's oral on Vanna. Like I said, this scene has a ton of extreme closeups. Here we can see Whitney teasing out Vanna's pearl and licking it hard. Later she gets into a prone position and again sucking and licking hard on Vanna's clit.
Again the sexy extreme closeups showing Whitney licking and sucking on Vanna's clit. This movie is directed by a "Don Won DeMarco," who seems to be exclusively working with Penthouse. Is this his signature style? Later Whitney also fingers Vanna and licks her ass deeply.
Quite a few people on this forum believe contemporary mainstream g/g porn has gotten worse. I don't agree at all. Sure, there were great performers and scenes in the past, but there are plenty today too. Of course, some of that is subjective and is useless to argue over. But I think at least it may be useful to examine my own tastes and get some more details.
Limiting my search to American women and all the scenes I've reviewed from mainstream studios, I've come up with a list of women who are active (which I define as having at least 1 scene in the past year) and I really like. By "like," I mean I find them attractive, and I look forward to any one-on-one scene they star in because I've seen multiple good scenes with them before. I'm sure you will disagree with some of these names, but I'm also sure you will agree with many others. Frankly I'm unsure about some of too, especially those who have started more recently and simply are not as "proven." Also, I've included Cherry Kiss as she is, as far as I know, currently living in the US. Of course good performers may be misused by inept directors, but I find in most cases the performers themselves make the biggest difference regardless of direction.
Anyway, here's the list. Which ones do you disagree with? Any who is on your list but not on mine?
Adria Rae, Aiden Ashley, Aidra Fox, Alex Coal, Amber Moore, Ana Foxxx, Anna Claire Clouds, April Olsen, Braylin Bailey, Cadence Lux, Casey Calvert, Chanel Camryn, Charlotte Sins, Cherry Kiss, Delilah Day, Dharma Jones, Eliza Ibarra, Ella Reese, Ember Snow, Emma Hix, Freya Parker, Ivy Wolfe, Jane Wilde, Jayden Cole, Jessica Ryan, Jill Kassidy, Katrina Colt, Kay Lovely, Kenna James, Kira Noir, Kylie Rocket, Laney Grey, Leah Gotti, Lexi Luna, Lilly Bell, Liz Jordan, Lumi Ray, Maddy May, Maya Woulfe, Melissa Stratton, Nicole Aria, Nicole Doshi, Octavia Red, Paige Owens, Penny Barber, Queenie Sateen, Rebecca Vanguard, Scarlett Alexis, Scarlett Sage, Scarlit Scandal, Serene Siren, Sinn Sage, Skylar Snow, Sophia Locke, Spencer Bradley, Vanessa Sky, Vanna Bardot, Vic Marie, Vicki Chase, Victoria Voxxx, Vivian Foxx, Whitney Wright
Also, just for fun, I've created a chart based on how many of them started in which year.
Class of 2019 is especially productive, with 10 women starting: Anna Claire Clouds, April Olsen, Charlotte Sins, Ella Reese, Kylie Rocket, Laney Grey, Lilly Bell, Maddy May, Scarlit Scandal, Spencer Bradley.
Most of these are still going strong. The future, as far as I'm concerned, is also quite bright.
Class of 2020: Delilah Day, Freya Parker, Liz Jordan, Maya Woulfe, Octavia Red Class of 2021: Braylin Bailey, Katrina Colt, Kay Lovely, Lumi Ray, Nicole Aria, Nicole Doshi, Vic Marie, Vivian Foxx. Class of 2022: Chanel Camryn, Dharma Jones, Melissa Stratton, Queenie Sateen, Scarlett Alexis.
The one OG of OGs: Sinn Sage, who started in 2002.
Overall I tend to agree that the narrative about G/G getting worse, being better in some nebulous "past", is not truly on point. I mentioned this a few years back, couple maybe, when I started frequenting this thread and the forums, bringing up the concept of "nostalgia goggles", something I think we are all capable of falling into in any number of various forms of experience.
"...due to Sturgeon's Law combined with the passage of time: as new media is released, the vast majority will be mediocre or worse, but over time, a powerful selection pressure causes all but the best (and in some infamous cases, worst) material from an earlier era to be largely forgotten, leaving an increasingly inaccurate impression of its overall quality." - Nostalgia Goggles/Filter entry on the ol' TV Tropes website.
That being said though, and after reading the vast majority of your posts and reviews here on ADT, I am pretty certain we don't agree on many things, especially what's a "good" scene or not. Your list for example - I see a few in there but the majority I just don't agree with or feel the same way on. You'd expressed that you thought it was too personal to have genuine orgasms and such on screen, that it was asking too much from the performers, too personal and that it was a line you don't think needed to be crossed and that was just such an diametrically opposed juxtaposition to my standpoints it left me reeling when I read it. Going forward it left a reader wondering just how reviews could be worthwhile if the reviewer isn't interested in such things/feels like it's asking too much of the performers. Left a real disconnect, overall don't feel like we agree much about the porn world or G/G content.
For the list given Alex Coal, top of the list, bar none, best G/G performer in the game. Casey Calvert as she truly gives oral in an attempt to pleasure her partner with minimal porno-convention humming and hissing the whole time, a real pro. Freya Parker. Victoria Voxx. Whitney is another like Casey - super not afraid of pussy, really creates contact and pleases her partner, generally not over the top with corny porny-style pleasure emoting. A couple of the other girls can put in some good scenes when they choose too but too often devolve into the rampant porno-fakery that runs wild in the industry, cannot stand those sounds.
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Posted - Dec 2 2023 : 2:14PM
It is rare to see performers in a GG video looking very comfortable with each other today, let alone sexually gratified.
Just gotta keep in mind that some people believe women cum in 10 seconds by merely pretending that they are making genital-to-genital contact, and I think that explains a wide variance in opinions on quality.
It's all in what the individual is looking for in a video lol
I see that Hegre doesn't get much love here, and I understand why, its not hardcore porn. But man, the quality of the women they choose for their films are second to none, definitely not pornstars, alot of these women look to be in fitness, ballet or maybe aspiring models(some of these girls want their identity concealed). Theres lesbian films, but their not super crazy or anything(check out "Simona T and Safo-Lesbian Sex" for a quick example)its pretty obvious that the draw of Hegre is that these women are notches above women in the adult industry(referring back to the scene I mentioned, Safo(black woman) refuses to show her face on camera but has the figure/body of a supermodel, very kempt/fit with beautiful skin, supple/healthy looking breast-nipples and a beautiful/neat pussy).
A sub to Hegre is $20 right now, their usual rate is $40/month, which is high but these girls on their roster are really a cut above.
I agree with what you said about the "nostalgia goggles." I think it's just a form of recency bias.
For the rest of it, I've said a lot of things, so I can't remember everything. But it seems like you may have confused two things.
1. With respect to orgasm, my opinion is that it's not necessary for me as a viewer. For one thing, there's no way for me to know for sure. Only the performer herself will know, and I feel no need to press for some proof, if any such proof is even possible. If she has an orgasm, good for her. If not, I have no problem with it.
2. With respect to privacy, that is when I said it's too personal and potentially crossing a line. I believe this was brought up when Aya asked my opinion on a scene between Gracie Glam and Brooke Lee Adams. For those unfamiliar with it, this scene included a pre-scene interview where the two talked in detail about their off-screen failed romantic relationship. Both got very emotional, and tears were involved. I thought this was highly personal and private and was inappropriate. These are people performing a scene, in many ways similar to mainstream Hollywood actors. I care about what I see on screen, but talk of their personal sexuality, their real-life partners -- this is just like paparazzi/celebrity gossip, which I don't care for at all.
Lastly, let me say that "real vs fake" is a complicated topic. We as viewers look at the final product; what we don't see is the complex process of how the sausage is made, so to speak. Once you peer into that, things are never that black and white. I have cited an academic paper titled "Porn Work, Feminist Critique, and the Market for Authenticity" by Heather Berg before. I think it's worthwhile to quote it at length here.
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Performers across genres suggest that the work of manufacturing realness is lubricated when all screen partners are willing to participate. Refusing to do that work withholds labor from management but can also make work more difficult for coworkers. This theme emerged most frequently in interviews with performers who do same-sex scenes with screen partners who may not engage in same-sex sex in their nonwork lives. There are ongoing discussions in performer, management, and fan communities about performers who are perceived as "gay for pay," that is, willing to engage in same-sex encounters only for money and with no pretense of authentic desire.
When I asked Ela Darling, then a "girl-girl" performer, about her perspective on this, she explained, "as far as I'm concerned, as long as you can convince me that you're attracted to me right now, I don't care what your sexual identity is. What bugs me is when before the scene a girl is like 'I never have a real orgasm, I always fake my orgasms.' . . . I'm a professional. . . . If you can't come on camera, I understand, but if you're gonna fake it anyway, I don't need to know beforehand. . . . We're trying to reach a goal together." The work of performance is not only creative but also relational- performers endeavor to reach the goal of a successful scene together.
Realness here is multilayered. While producers may be satisfied with faking it for the camera - what might be understood in Arlie Hochschild's terms as "surface acting" - most performers pursue deep acting in their own practice and hope that coworkers will do the same. The scenes performers talked about feeling most proud of and energized by were those in which they experienced a connection with their on-screen partners. This connection need not be based on sexual desire, however. Performers also describe camaraderie between friends or respect between colleagues as real connections that facilitate the work of performance.
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The point is that all on screen "realness" is manufactured. They are all performance. But the best way to manufacture it is if the on screen partners have a connection, which could be genuine sexual connection, but it also could be simply acknowledgment and respect for each other as coworkers for putting in genuine work to make a good scene.
Just went over there to take a look at your suggestion. This made me laugh -- it's their sales banner 😄
Looking through some of the photos, you are probably right about "aspiring models." Many of them are very thin. That whole models/eating disorder thing is no mere idle talk. Of course there are women like that in porn, but many are much more full-figured.
Yeah, the women apart of hegre are pretty top notch. Some are pretty thin but alot of them have figures you'd see on athletes, ballerinas or models. Some decent lesbian scenes on there, 0 hardcore male/female fucking though.(theres a scene with two gorgeous black women, that are wearing mask and one dude, the guy massages both women and one of the women rides him backwards for her own pleasure, before jacking him off for the rest of the scene)
Yeah that whole paper is very illuminating, because it really talks about porn from the other side, the production (rather than consumption/viewing) side. It's full of quotes and interviews, but not the sort of interviews that we see in porn, but interviews where the author asks the porn performers to articulate how they think of their work. I would highly, highly recommend that paper to anyone who is even remotely interested in mainstream/professional porn of any kind.
It's natural that people default into thinking about porn in terms of realism/authentic desires/etc. The reality is that more often than not, the first time the two women ever meet in person is the day they meet on the set, and one or two hours later they have to have sex in front of a camera. It has to be craft. You can't just "let it happen" and hope for the best.
I'm one of these people who believes that the majority of the g/g porn made in the last decade is usually inferior to what was made in the previous decade but rarely because of who is in front of the camera. In my opinion it's who is behind the camera forwhy I rarely enjoy more recent g/g porn. I don't even think that it's a lack of talent so much as a question of philosophy. For me kissing is why I prefer g/g porn to b/g porn and if it's not in a g/g video or it is so piss poorly done than no matter what follows. I won't really enjoy the scene. Maybe I'm too jaded but I would argue that there is significantly less kissing today to the point where it's almost skipped over in many scenes in lieu of women fingering themselves or going down on each other and please don't get me started on the f..king fake moans two seconds after they touch each other.
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Posted - Dec 3 2023 : 5:08PM
There is significantly less kissing. There is also not much breast-play (unless one performer has strange-looking chest surgery, then they focus on it).
Most performers today don't want prolonged, super-intimate physical contact with another woman (G4P, like the term or not), they don't have any desire to make the shoot look like sex, and also..they simply don't *have to* make the shoot look like sex because most of the people still paying for porn aren't interested in that.
Producers know that the 2 things they need for most buyers is some kind of dialogue to establish that maybe there is not 100% consent to sex and the appearance that the performers are uncomfortable with what they are doing,
I am quite sympathetic to your view as I'm too a big fan of kissing. Sure, some contemporary scenes don't have good kissing. But that I think is mostly down to specific performers, such as Amber Moore, who apparently just doesn't like kissing that involves tongue (but is otherwise a great performer). Here we can see examples of those who got the "you shall not pass" treatment: Freya Parker, Penny Barber, Haley Reed, Skylar Snow.
But just looking at these four women who are her partners, they are perfectly capable of tongue kissing other scene partners: Freya & Victoria Voxxx, Penny & Serene Siren, Haley & Jayden Cole, Skylar & Sonny McKinley.
May I suggest a possible explanation to your feeling that there's less kissing today, even though I don't think there's any real evidence to this? Judging by your words (and # of posts), it seems you have been watching porn since at least the early 2000s, if not before. I started in the late 1990s. During those days the women just did not kiss at all, or it was little more than a few quick pecks. When things started changing and kissing and foreplay as a whole were dramatically expanded -- such as the original Viv Thomas productions -- I was amazed and those videos made a huge impression on me, since they were so novel, so unlikely what existed before. That's why they seemed so remarkable and memorable.
Today, kissing and foreplay have been so thoroughly integrated into the "standard package" of the majority of the studio productions that they are no longer remarkable. In fact, it's those that are lacking in such things that tend to stand out and draw attention (either by design/philosophy like many Brazzers productions, or due to individual performer preferences like the Amber example above).
Whatever else this is, it's not an interview🤣 Holly just took over the conversation and started going on and on about her self. Evelyn talked probably 30% of the time. A lot of it is just very standard, expected stuff. It could have been a much more interesting conversation, like the one between Heather Berg and Ela Darling in that paper I keep harping on. For example, Holly could have asked Evelyn about how she works with women she knows that are attracted women, women who she knows that are not attracted to women (or just not her, though it's not easy to imagine someone who is attracted to women, but just not Evelyn, unless they are exclusively interested in masculine women), women whom she is attracted to, women whom she is not attracted to. What kind of pre-scene conversation do they have? What do they ask from each other? What do directors ask for? Do they push back on this or that? How do different studios differ, if they differ, on their approaches?
On a side note, as Holly pointed out, penises are dirty (if you only touch vaginas, you are not even doing porn). At least in the US. It's wild how in Japan's porn it's the upside-down bizzaro world (from our perspective) where vaginas are dirty.
^^That's one of my pet peeves with Holly's podcast. There are definitely good episodes here and there (Highly recommend the one with Aiden Starr for those who want to learn more about lesbian & queer performers who embrace their gender fluidity in their work). But she often will have interviews where the vast majority of the episode is her filibustering for long stretches of time. Which is quite annoying, especially because she regularly interviews a lot of very interesting performers.
Go to this website and enter the title of the paper, "Porn Work, Feminist Critique, and the Market for Authenticity"
It addresses porn in general (the only time it addresses g/g genre specifically is that Ela Darling long quote). The source material is interviews the author had with insiders, which were conducted around 2015. She also attended several actual shoots to observe. It looks at porn not from the consumer's perspective, but producers (performers, directors, studio owners) as work (pay, working condition).
In some sense, it can be read as a critique of a type of feminist critique of porn. Everyone knows about the traditional critique, which is just "porn bad." Another critique is to be more sex-positive, but says mainstream porn, because it's highly commercialized, is not "authentic," so we should search for "authentic" portrayal of sex outside of mainstream studios, for example in self-proclaimed feminist or queer porn studios. This paper critically examines this second perspective and shows how problematic it is.
Anyway if you do read it, let me know what you think. I and a few others have already discussed it in the "feminist porn" thread.
I won't speak for others, just say my criticism of current g/g porn has nothing to do with nostalgia. I believe the studio porn system is dying a slow, painful death. I don't think the cash exists to draw women into the studio side of porn anymore. Since the pandemic, don't think American porn has drawn 10 new women into the business that would even slightly interest me. European porn's talent pool is a bit better. When you post one of your reviews, I scan thru it & usually conclude, " no interest in watching those 2 do anything". Aside from the talent issue, the risk takers and/or the talented directors seem to have vanished from the scene. Who has filled the shoes of Lansky? Jay Sin? Jake Malone? Viv Thomas? Mason puts out a scene once every month I guess. I came up with 6 names off your list that would make me stop & at least make me take a peek at the scene. There are other good performers on your list that are older & frankly have seen there better days in front of a camera.
even as someone on the record (ad nauseam) as preferring old stuff this strikes me as 100% correct. There's the opposite of a shortage of kissing today, and the issue is precisely that it's no longer remarkable. All the Slayed videos feature prodigious kissing nowadays and I could care less. Conversely, because kissing wasn't in the cinematographic playbook in the 90s and early 00s (very often it was deliberately cut-away from), it became a kind of indisputable marker of spontaneous excitement among the actresses when it happened. It's the money shot for me when perusing that era.
Without any real data, I can't say if studio porn is dying a slow death. Anyway, which are the 6 names that you agree with?
Yeah today's porn with respect to kissing is just totally different from those early days. The baseline expectation has been vastly elevated. Back then if we see some kissing, we can use that as "evidence" to fantasize that this is a sign that the two women have real affection toward each other (as opposed to the scene being a purely business transaction, related to the old rumor about prostitutes refusing to kiss their clients).
Anyway, I just found a website that generates porn images at "make.porn". You can select a bunch of tags to get some AI generated images. I tried a few. Based on my limited experience, it seems you have to choose "kissing" tag under "action," otherwise you will just get one woman even when choosing "lesbian" tag under "base." Also, it takes 2-3 minutes to get one (unless, of course, you pay for a membership). And yes, I have a choker fetish.
This is the first example and the tags I used. Yeah I was trying to get an image where they are standing on the moon, but they just placed an extra the moon in the sky 😂 Also, I chose "perfect boobs," and they came out much larger than what I had in mind 😄
The second example. The "kissing" is even worse, and I'm not sure what make them "Latina" (in fact I didn't even know what to expect when I chose that tag), but I'm happy about the "fantasy armor" 😄