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killbillvol69 All-Star Member ^Lucy Pinder 18634 Posts 4/08	Posted - Sep 21 2012 : 11:46PM Who/what exactly is the "No on Government Waste Committee"? What do they do other than what they're doing right now with Measure B? Do they exist only in California or is it a Federal thing? Google is of no help. [Link]
pornlaw Member 578 Posts 10/05	Posted - Sep 22 2012 : 4:53PM They are only in California and were organized to fight Ballot Measure B. They are made up of a coalition of parties - the FSC, VICA, Manwin. They are staffed by; The senior campaign staff includes Sue Burnside, campaign manager. Burnside is the founder and CEO of Burnside and Associates a Los Angeles-based political consulting firm specializing in grassroots field operations, turnout programs, ground-based vote-by-mail programs and coalition building. The FSC said 15 percent of Burnside & Associates' races have been decided by less than one percent of the total votes cast and their direct mail programs have a 95 percent win record. In 2008 Burnside & Associates achieved a perfect 100 percent win record for both their political and corporate clients, according to the FSC. In 2009, Burnside & Associates was proud to announce a 100 percent win record for their corporate clients and in 2010, they scored a 90 percent win rate for their clients. Burnside kicked off last year with Rep. Janice Hahn's historic first open primary Congressional election in California and ended it with solid wins for their political, corporate and municipal clients. Also included in their long list of clients are the DNC in Oregon, New Mexico and California, Linda Sanchez for Congress, AARP, HRC-Protect Our Constitution-Hawaii & California Project, America Votes, JetBlue and more. The campaign’s communications director is James Lee of The Lee Strategy Group, Inc. (LSG). Prior to forming LSG, Lee was a director at the global PR firm Burson-Marsteller working on a wide array of issues, including utility deregulation, wireless standards, biotechnology and healthcare, business-to-business marketing, labor relations, environmental communications, community outreach and coalition building. He also has extensive experience in HIV and AIDS drug development having worked for biotech firms searching for cures and treatments. Lee’s campaign experience includes working for several conservative candidates and organizations including President George H.W. Bush and Governor Pete Wilson. The FSC said that because of Lee’s extensive experience working to fight onerous government regulation and the relationships he developed in the course of those fights, he brings to the campaign the ability to connect successfully with the county’s more conservative business organizations. The FSC pointed out that campaign poll results emphasize the importance of a bipartisan effort as this ballot measure cannot be simple-mindedly pigeonholed as either a Democratic or Republican issue. Goodwin Simon Strategic Research (GSSR) has been tapped for the pollster for the campaign. GSSR is an independent opinion research firm with offices in Los Angeles and San Francisco. Together, Partners Paul Goodwin and Amy Simon bring more than 30 years of experience in polling, social and political marketing, policy analysis, program evaluation, and communications for clients in the political, public, and private sectors. GSSR offers an array of quantitative and qualitative research services, including telephone, on-line, and intercept surveys; focus groups; and consulting. Their research and consulting services guide strategic and tactical decision making across the full range of campaign concerns. The company's client list includes, American Federation of State County and Municipal Employees (AFSCME), American Cancer Society, California Progressive Alliance, Courage Campaign, Marijuana Policy Project and yes, even AIDS Healthcare Foundation. Click to expand This is what I found out about James Lee --> http://adultbizlaw.com/?p=947 I havent researched Burnside or GSSR... Michael [Link]
Goldstein All-Star Member "You have sacrificed nothing and no one." 3689 Posts 8/10	Posted - Sep 22 2012 : 6:03PM pornlaw wrote: No it doesnt. Thats why I am not really sure why 2cents is talking about it. Michael AdultBizLaw.com Click to expand twocentsworth would seem to be an alt-ID (or new-ID for a "former" member), created solely to post anonymously in this thread and the Syphilis thread. Arguing nonsense with true industry insiders who know what they're talking about, would just be a bonus, as far as no-cents (i.e. no sense) is concerned. Thank you for your important contributions to our little community, Michael. [Link]
4theheart Senior Member pornologist 3102 Posts 8/01	Posted - Sep 22 2012 : 6:27PM former member "lookyhere" dunno just guessing [Link]

killbillvol69 All-Star Member ^Lucy Pinder 18634 Posts 4/08	Posted - Sep 22 2012 : 8:58PM Thanks for the info about the no waste committee pornlaw. [Link]
pornlaw Member 578 Posts 10/05	Posted - Sep 23 2012 : 12:06PM Glodstein & Killbill - thank you ! I try to get out information so people can be informed... Here's two new videos from the No on Govt Waste Committee... Videos: No on Ballot Measure B starring Steven St. Croix - Two videos on why you should vote No on "Condoms in Porn!" http://adultbizlaw.com/video-no-on-ballot-measure-b-steven-st-croix/ Michael [Link]
valo Senior Member 1854 Posts 9/07	Posted - Sep 23 2012 : 8:16PM Michael, these are great articles and videos being posted on adultbizlaw.com They are very informative and explain whats going on. The voters need to know the facts and know the real agenda of AHF. All this should be used by the committee to get the word out and inform people. I hope all these articles and vids will be sent to every news station, newspaper, and news website in the county. Try and get these so called journalists to do a story on this for tv or a newspaper. [Link]
pornlaw Member 578 Posts 10/05	Posted - Sep 23 2012 : 9:24PM Thank you... I know that local LA news reads my blog. I have been interviewed & linked to in the past by HuffPo, Daily Beast, Daily Dot, LA Weekly, CNBC ect et al...So they know its there. If they want to interview me they will contact me. I cant force that... AHF told me they read my blog as well... So hopefully it will get more exposure in the coming month and will be used as a reference/research source for local media/news but they will probably go to FSC/No on Govt Waste to get their side. Im just trying to inform without bias or an agenda. I am against Prop 35 and Ballot Measure B but I try to educate first and convince second. Michael AdultBizLaw.com [Link]
pornlaw Member 578 Posts 10/05	Posted - Sep 25 2012 : 1:11PM What AHF is Not Telling You About the “Condoms in Porn” Law ? Will this law even take effect? Where is the govt. waste? http://adultbizlaw.com/what-youre-not-being-told-about-the-condoms-in-porn-law/ [Link]
pornlaw Member 578 Posts 10/05	Posted - Sep 26 2012 : 9:45PM What is Weinstein’s Agenda Behind Condoms in Porn ? http://adultbizlaw.com/my-favorite-michael-weinstein-quotes/ Michael [Link]
pornlaw Member 578 Posts 10/05	Posted - Sep 28 2012 : 12:59PM The Occupational Dangers of Being a Pornstar… How does the industry compare to other jobs & industries... http://adultbizlaw.com/the-occupational-dangers-of-being-a-pornstar/ Michael [Link]
pornlaw Member 578 Posts 10/05	Posted - Sep 29 2012 : 2:25PM Testing and Condoms: Straight Porn vs. Gay Porn- Is the gay side of the industry really safer because they use condoms? http://adultbizlaw.com/testing-and-condoms-straight-porn-vs-gay-porn/ Michael [Link]
4theheart Senior Member pornologist 3102 Posts 8/01	Posted - Sep 30 2012 : 9:09PM Posting this because I saw it on the front of AVN "Conservative 'Daily Caller' Publishes Anti-Measure B Editorial" Politics can make for interesting bed fellows, but I think there is a smaller-government/regulation sentiment out there among some in he electorate that can be used to the advantage of those in opposition to the measure. http://business.avn.com/articles/legal/Conservative-Daily-Caller-Publishes-Anti-Measure-B-Editorial-490353.html [Link]
4theheart Senior Member pornologist 3102 Posts 8/01	Posted - Oct 1 2012 : 12:46PM Here's one perspective on the debate on the front of the opinion section of the latimes today by op-ed columnist Jim Newton. Newton: Porn, safe sex and Measure B [Link]

pornlaw Member 578 Posts 10/05	Posted - Oct 1 2012 : 3:19PM We are finally getting some support ! Now if the public knew more about how this isnt just a porn industry law... Doing cam shows from home w/ a spouse/BF/GF/cam partner in LA County ? Well the condom law applies to you too! http://adultbizlaw.com/what-you-need-to-know-condoms-in-porn-law-and-camming-part-1/ Just like 2257 it applies across the board... Michael [Link]
LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05	Posted - Oct 1 2012 : 4:37PM I live in Europe so I don't know I was wondering considering the matter at hand , is this ballot debated on TV? Are voters really informed? [Link]
RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06	Posted - Oct 2 2012 : 10:02AM Most people in this country probably don't even know about this. And they probably won't until it passes and they start wondering what the hell ruined their porn. [Link]
pornlaw Member 578 Posts 10/05	Posted - Oct 2 2012 : 6:25PM Part 2 - Web Camming and Condoms - Arrests and Fines... http://adultbizlaw.com/condoms-in-porn-law-and-web-camming-part-2-arrest-and-fines/ Michael [Link]
InFamous Deactivated User 1051 Posts 2/12	Posted - Oct 2 2012 : 6:55PM ^ WTF [Link]
jordy Deactivated User 16 Posts 9/12	Posted - Oct 2 2012 : 8:24PM Edited by - Jonny Jay on 10/3/2012 1:42:12 PM [Link]
LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05	Posted - Oct 3 2012 : 12:54PM mod edit: Only editing as the poster above is now deactivated, preventing any encouragement for his return. In no way is this edit a reflection on what you wrote, thank you. Edited by - Jonny Jay on 10/3/2012 1:46:10 PM [Link]
pornlaw Member 578 Posts 10/05	Posted - Oct 3 2012 : 5:38PM Video: The "Young Turks" Come Out Against Condoms in Porn Great video on why condoms are bad for the industry! http://adultbizlaw.com/video-the-young-turks-come-out-against-condoms-in-porn/ Michael [Link]
4theheart Senior Member pornologist 3102 Posts 8/01	Posted - Oct 3 2012 : 10:24PM pornlaw, this avn article claims that Measure B in addition to mandating condoms, would also mandate additional protective measures, and I was just wondering if it is true? "Under Measure B, it would require adult film producers to provide, and to insure their employees actually use, "appropriate ... equipment such as, but not limited to, gloves, gowns... face shields or masks and eye protection... mouthpieces... pocket masks, or other ventilation devices" where "reasonably anticipated skin, eye [or] mucous membrane... contact with potentially infectious materials" such as "semen, vaginal secretions... saliva... [or] any other body fluid" might occur. You know, like kissing..." Would this mean things like condoms for blowjobs? Female Condoms for cunnilingus? Goggles for facial popshots? Heck could a popshot land on any part of exposed skin at all? These would basically be OSHA guidelines for a lab am I right? Has weinstein talked about this? It would seem this is the avenue you may want to take or question if this is indeed true. Or if it is true an effective ad may be to have a billboard showing a man and woman embracing while donning the full protective regalia. Either way, regardless of one's position on the measure, I do hope the underlying facts are presented to voters, whatever they may be. [Link]
pornlaw Member 578 Posts 10/05	Posted - Oct 3 2012 : 11:58PM Ballot Measure B makes references to the Cal-OSHA reg section 5193 that does actually require all those things... Though Cal-OSHA has proposed revised regs that only reference gloves and eye protective gear (in addition to condoms and dental dams). Not sure if that means googles or not. And yes condoms would be required for BJs under the old Cal-OSHA regs but not the proposed new ones - if certain testing requirements are met. So quite honestly B is very confusing but the AVN article you read is factual/legally correct. Michael [Link]

pornlaw Member 578 Posts 10/05	Posted - Oct 5 2012 : 12:59PM Ballot Measure B – Get The Facts: The Proposed Law, Ballot Language and Voter Guide's For and Against Language http://adultbizlaw.com/?p=1646 Michael [Link]
pornlaw Member 578 Posts 10/05	Posted - Oct 6 2012 : 1:15PM Weinstein, AHF and Misinformation about Condoms in Nevada Brothels You cant compare brothels to porn production. http://adultbizlaw.com/?p=1669 Michael [Link]
pornlaw Member 578 Posts 10/05	Posted - Oct 11 2012 : 5:36PM Do Not Restrict The Right To Choose! An article on the persecution of sexual rights by Michael Weinstein and AHF http://adultbizlaw.com/do-not-restrict-the-right-to-choose/ Michael [Link]
RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06	Posted - Oct 12 2012 : 8:11PM Where are all the abortion rights activists on this right to choose? Edited by - randomprecision on 10/12/2012 8:11:49 PM [Link]
pornlaw Member 578 Posts 10/05	Posted - Oct 16 2012 : 12:10PM Court Rules City Imposed Permits Violates First Amendment This case can be used to fight Ballot Measure B ! http://adultbizlaw.com/?p=1967 Michael [Link]
danl Member 436 Posts 3/05	Posted - Oct 17 2012 : 7:26PM Don't suppose anyone knows or even cares, but when I have not sent out forum "rants" to adult film directors for their continual refusal to recognize the sexual "charge" a great many men get, just in seeing sexy, shapely porn stars, dangling long, smoldering cigarettes between their luscious lips, in both porn feature and gonzo productions, I coined the term "con-dumb," long before it became a "button slogan" by the adult film industry. Should anyone care to check this fact, go to the many posts I made, looooong loooong ago, when the proposed mandate was in its "infancy," so to speak. I am pretty sure, then, that "condumb, was "picked up" by "some" industry "movie and shaker," who claimed it as his OWN, after reading one of my rants, in which I wrote, "it is just plain stupid,for what I like to call, CONDUMBS, to be required on male adult film performers,already tested more often than lab rats at UCLA." As for the "borrowing," thats ok with me, just as long as one of the most LUDRICOUS proposals ever made by the County of Los Angeles is soundly defeated, and I can always take great pride in knowing that MY coined term may have played some part in its demise. [Link]
4theheart Senior Member pornologist 3102 Posts 8/01	Posted - Oct 17 2012 : 9:03PM The latimes endorsement page recommends voting No on Measure B link [Link]
pornlaw Member 578 Posts 10/05	Posted - Oct 18 2012 : 1:06AM danl wrote: Don't suppose anyone knows or even cares, but when I have not sent out forum "rants" to adult film directors for their continual refusal to recognize the sexual "charge" a great many men get, just in seeing sexy, shapely porn stars, dangling long, smoldering cigarettes between their luscious lips, in both porn feature and gonzo productions, I coined the term "con-dumb," long before it became a "button slogan" by the adult film industry. Should anyone care to check this fact, go to the many posts I made, looooong loooong ago, when the proposed mandate was in its "infancy," so to speak. I am pretty sure, then, that "condumb, was "picked up" by "some" industry "movie and shaker," who claimed it as his OWN, after reading one of my rants, in which I wrote, "it is just plain stupid,for what I like to call, CONDUMBS, to be required on male adult film performers,already tested more often than lab rats at UCLA." As for the "borrowing," thats ok with me, just as long as one of the most LUDRICOUS proposals ever made by the County of Los Angeles is soundly defeated, and I can always take great pride in knowing that MY coined term may have played some part in its demise. Click to expand I think they picked it up from an article written by Leya Falcon... http://www.xcritic.com/blogs/blog.php?blogID=3365 Michael [Link]
Jamie Gardner Member demicomix.com Carnal Comics - True Stories of Adult Film Stars 105 Posts 6/04	Posted - Oct 18 2012 : 1:15PM Aurora Snow has written an article that is in favor of Measure B. I disagree with Measure B but I think that it is good that Aurora Snow is expressing her opinion. Condoms in Porn: One Adult Star Says Yes to Measure B http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/10/18/condoms-in-porn-one-adult-star-says-yes-to-measure-b.html http://www.demicomix.com/Carnal01.htm http://groups.yahoo.com/group/carnalcomics Edited by - Jamie Gardner on 10/18/2012 1:18:18 PM [Link]
danl Member 436 Posts 3/05	Posted - Oct 19 2012 : 7:24PM "Great," at least I now know, who "borrowed" the term from me, since my posts here on this forum, using the term, "condumb," predate Ms Falcon's article, by quite a bit, should you want to check, "porn law," and btw, I like your input on proposed measure B, and the negative effect it would have throughout the adult film industry, if passed--Certainly, the business will survive, but, imho, it will be just the "beginning" of a long train of restrictions on the people producing and making adult films, designed to eventually, drive the industry out of LA County, entirely. [Link]

InFamous Deactivated User 1051 Posts 2/12	Posted - Oct 20 2012 : 11:36PM ^ No just not condom in porn but for G/G movies too,here what you can find out. Now that bout blowbangs, creampies, cuckold, or ever footjob scenes too. Edited by - Infamous on 10/20/2012 11:43:03 PM [Link]
RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06	Posted - Oct 21 2012 : 6:29AM Jamie Gardner wrote: Aurora Snow has written an article that is in favor of Measure B. I disagree with Measure B but I think that it is good that Aurora Snow is expressing her opinion. Click to expand I don't suppose I can apply for a refund on all the money I spent on her movies. [Link]
pornlaw Member 578 Posts 10/05	Posted - Oct 26 2012 : 12:08PM 89.9 KCRW Condoms in Porn Debate AHF's Michael Weinstein & Derrick Burts debate James Lee and Rebecca Bardoux ! http://adultbizlaw.com/89-9-kcrw-condoms-in-porn-debate/ Michael [Link]
RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06	Posted - Oct 26 2012 : 2:40PM It's amazing to me that what two consenting adults choose to do with each other sexually is even a debate in this country. Or I should say that what is really interesting is the fact that they can ban basically anything. It just depends on how they package and sell the ban. They're not calling it "censorship". They'll call it "workplace safety" and they know all the little drones of the world will fall right in line regardless of what they say they believe regarding censorship, free speech and sexual freedom. Everything has a backdoor (no pun intended). If anything, the human mind is much easier to hack than any kind of computer software. You start with the really stupid people (of which there are many), push all the right buttons and their bleating will eventually drown out the "debate". Anyway, this is your sexual freedom being eroded. Enjoy. Edited by - randomprecision on 10/26/2012 2:48:30 PM [Link]
Savoy All-Star Member Sucker for Sinners 1844 Posts 12/06	Posted - Nov 7 2012 : 12:22AM Now what? [Link]
mapofhawaii Senior Member 1050 Posts 3/06	Posted - Nov 7 2012 : 1:41AM So, has it been reported whether this passed or not? [Link]
Savoy All-Star Member Sucker for Sinners 1844 Posts 12/06	Posted - Nov 7 2012 : 2:05AM Measure B has passed. [Link]
mapofhawaii Senior Member 1050 Posts 3/06	Posted - Nov 7 2012 : 2:10AM Really? So, I guess the porn business will move out of California huh? Great job killing business. [Link]
RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06	Posted - Nov 7 2012 : 2:19AM What now? Is that supposed to be a rhetorical question? I would say you should go and drown your sorrows with a 32 ounce soda but we don't want to give them anymore ideas. [Link]
mharris127 Senior Member 1844 Posts 8/09	Posted - Nov 7 2012 : 2:30AM Savoy wrote: Measure B has passed. Click to expand I bet a couple of porn executives are closing on homes in Belvedere (about 15 miles northeast of San Francisco) tomorrow. Anyone selling a house in southern Marin just increased their price by $100K! Edited by - mharris127 on 11/7/2012 2:30:43 AM [Link]
EthanConner Member 319 Posts 11/07	Posted - Nov 7 2012 : 6:31AM Savoy wrote: Measure B has passed. Click to expand Fuuuuuuuuuuck! Porn is gonna suck soooo bad now! And so much for my impregnation fetish getting up there done by the right pairings! :( And no more cream pie porn. Damn. Cream Pies been my fav since I saw Candace Von do one. Edited by - EthanConner on 11/7/2012 6:44:34 AM [Link]
EthanConner Member 319 Posts 11/07	Posted - Nov 7 2012 : 6:42AM I wonder if straight porn or 3sum porn will even sell now? I must not be the only one who gets turned off by a scene where the guy wears a condom. [Link]
David Starsky Senior Member We're gonna take it outside and I'm gonna show you what it's like! 1660 Posts 2/06	Posted - Nov 7 2012 : 7:23AM The results are not actually all in yet. Currently 55.98% - 44.02% for Yes with 89% Precincts reported. Does it need 55% to pass? [Link]
EthanConner Member 319 Posts 11/07	Posted - Nov 7 2012 : 9:52AM I wish I could have voted. and to answer ur question, I sadly assume Yes it only needs 55% to pass because anything 51% or more is more than half. And more than half is always the majority. [Link]
aclayfan All-Star Member 5059 Posts 8/11	Posted - Nov 7 2012 : 10:23AM 1st, it was always going to pass. Do you think the voters are going to study the details of every ballot measure? It sounds perfectly reasonable to Joe and Jane Public. 2nd, let's see how things play out before everybody in pornland loads up the moving van. It's definitely bad news, how bad remains to be seen. [Link]
Anomander Rake Member 186 Posts 6/09	Posted - Nov 7 2012 : 10:46AM seems unconstitional to me, I think if they fight it in court they might have a good chance. How can you go in someone's house or other private property and tell them if they are having sexy with a video camera with an intent to distribute then they have to wear a condom? What if someone is fucking and records it with their iphone? If they put it on the internet, have they then broken the law? Also it seems impossible to inforce. Keep it on a closed set on private property and say you shot in San Deigo. You think police will really spend their time looking for porn shoots? Edited by - Anomander Rake on 11/7/2012 10:55:05 AM [Link]

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