I get why content creators like OF because they make a ton of money. But i don't understand why it's so popular to purchase subscriptions, even with your favorite pornstar/camgirl etc...
- Video quality is pixelated and horrible, no 1080p or 4K to be seen anywhere - Most videos included with subscription are less than a minute long - All videos with proper hardcore porn worth watching requires you to pay extra - Videos that you have to pay extra for are as expensive as stuff on ManyVids but waaaay worse quality - No download options even when you spend extra money to buy individual videos
PornhubPremium set the benchmark for excellent video quality and amazing content, too bad they were too cheap towards content creators.
Hopefully something else comes along soon that once again offers quality amateur content like that.
You answered your question in your post. Because the content creators make a lot of money. And so that's where they all are, and that's where all the content lives.
I don't think anyone wants to subscribe to a million different girls and then still have to pay extra to unlock their low end sextape. But that's where all the content lives now.
Plus, Beyonce mentioned it in a song so now every wannabe Instagram model also has an Only fans, charging out the ass for the same non-nude content you'd see on their Instagram. But maybe you'd get a topless mirror selfie, if you wanted to pay $50 for one low end pic.
Which came first, the chicken or the egg? You can say that the content lives on OnlyFans now because models like the platform, but if customers feel they aren't getting enough value out of the deal, then it doesn't actually matter. The market will simply reject the business model entirely and that content will be wasted. Clearly, that is not happening here, so something else is going on.
I think it's the illusion of exclusivity and having a personal connection with the model. Customers seem to like feeling as if they are "part of the club", getting to send creepy DMs, and requesting custom personal videos.
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1. Site performance is poor and fragile. Pics / vids fail to load up half the time.
2. Content creators spamming their own feed promoting other content creators....do that on your twitter, not on what is supposed to be your exclusive page.
Some people are happy to sell themselves a dream that they interact and have a more personal engagement with a performer/model when the logistics don't strike me as practical. To quote a supervillain, reality is often disappointing.
OnlyFans has a hell of a lot to improve upon to put it mildly, especially the transparency of content (for me) but to play devil's advocate and offer some balance, some of your points imparted as absolutes are not true.
Whether "most" videos included in a subscription are less than a minute long depends on the individual account.
Whether all videos with "proper hardcore porn" requires you to pay extra, again, depends on the individual account.
Whether videos you have to pay extra for are as expensive as content on ManyVids but worse quality, for the third time of stating depends on the individual account.
Your experience with a limited number of accounts may show those trends but there are accounts that refute what you've said about the content and paywall structure as if it's always the case.
OF customers generally are looking for different content than what we porn fans are accustomed to, we notice it's poorly shot, with bad angles, low light and rather short length. Nowadays most onlyfans come with additional paywalls like ppv, companies hired to specifically respond to messages and chat with fans, absurd prices, weird and lacking posting schedule. i am not apposed to OF altogether but with the current increasing amount of models on onlyfans it's already bloated and it will be worse in a few years, with so many to choose from only the models offering the most bang for the buck will emerge.
There is a certain satisfaction one (or maybe just me) gets from following someone on Twitter or Instagram, then finding out they have an OF. Like "I've always wanted to see them naked. Now I can." Bonus points if they weren't "overtly" sexual, maybe even prudish, before. But are now doing some raunchy things on OF. Riding along during that transition is awesome!
Following pornstars on OF, IMO, is weird. Because, it's like, "I have dozens of full-length 1080p/4K videos of you doing hardcore shit. Why would I want lower-quality videos of you doing vanilla stuff?" Then again, I don't DM or request custom vids.
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chiwug Deactivated User
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Posted - May 29 2021 : 1:43PM
^ Yeah Pornstar OF does not make sense to me either.
Why pay to sext with a dude sitting in a callcenter? So many girls don't answer the DMs themselves
What Have You Done To My Little Cable Boy? 2966 Posts 5/10
Posted - May 29 2021 : 1:46PM
I don't think OF is so much about the content and its quality. For many (lonely) men it is an opportunity to get in touch with their dream girls. They don't care about paying $50 for a 2 minute clip. In their fantasy world, more money for the girl means a closer bond with the girl. In my opinion, OF is based on the loneliness and desperation of men. Otherwise, such a business model would not work. A lot of money for moderate to poor quality.
Agree with much of what has been posted above. I'll add this sad reality.Willie Sutton is reported to have said he robbed banks because that's where the money is. Well currently, onlyfans is often times where your favorite porn stars reside. It's subscribe, only watch their old studio scenes, or forget them.
What one person considers terrible, other people like. Clearly, there are some people who like it, enough people that it stays in business. Just because it isn't for you doesn't mean it isn't for everyone.
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Posted - May 29 2021 : 7:51PM
Yes they do, both 1080p and 4k videos exist, but whatever they do in the backend to encode is a big mystery, and my guess it has to do with what the content creators themselves record on, the format, bitrate, etc. before uploading. For example, Dylan James is a female pornstar who works with Johnny Sins a lot. The videos she sends of their scenes is always in 720p for whatever reason. However, the same video sent or posted by Johnny is always 1080p, which is a good segue to your next point...Not all, many creators do this sure, but not all. See Johnny Sins, Dredd, Mia Malkova (before buying this new castle, she used to post all her new videos for free and they're still up on her feed), Nicole Aniston, Madison Ivy, Cayenne Klein, Charlotte Sartre, Aletta Ocean, Kristy Black, etc.. Some of these people have full scenes up on their feed, while others have shorter clips but still longer than a minute, often five minutes in length.Read previous responseLike I said, how the compression works is a mystery to me, but I've seen videos with super high bitrate in crispy 4k quality and I've seen others where even 1080p videos get compressed to shit.No download options that are obviously visible, but you can easily download if you know how to google around.
Thanks for de-mystifying OF for me. I knew it was a money grab, esp during COVID taking away production of features. I don't subscribe to any girl-specific sites & never paid to see cam girls.
I have subscribed to a few onlyfans and for the most part it is not enjoyable. I am not interested in "chatting" with pornstars. The only reason to subscribe to any of these for me to see videos I cant see anywhere else and the easier the process is the more ive enjoyed the onlyfan page. For some you have to dm and ask for a particular video to be sent to your dm and sometimes they want a tip to do this and then pay for the video (this is on top of the subscription fee to the page). The ones ive enjoyed the most had videos that were reasonably priced and had exclusive content. Jane Wilde's is free at the moment and I bought her video with Jax for 25 dollars and it was of high quality (something you would fine on a site and not some cell phone video) and I was satisfied. If I was to improve onlyfans id have the pages have a section to unlock videos rather than the dm nonsense and just leave the dm part for those wanting to "chat".
It's always interesting to see these types of discussions on this site. One of the things I've noticed since I've joined this site is many of you seem to have no idea that you aren't typical porn fans. Many of the things that are so very important to you when it comes to porn the average/casual porn viewer doesn't care about in the least or gives a second thought about. I've never joined an OF page and I've only seen short clips of the type of content some of the girls offer but while much of it clearly isn't on par with scenes shot by the major studios...I think most fans of the platform understand and accept that and probably don't care. I know I've never understood why so many of you here are so into having content be 4K and the highest resolution possible. Yeah, it looks better I guess but...IT'S PORN! It's not like this is a big budget movie with great cinematography and bold images that need the best and highest resolution. Personally, 720 is good enough even watching on my big screen. I have to figure a big part of the OF audience is watching on their phone. I don't think those people are sweating the picture quality to the extent many here seem to be. Plus...I think there are times when the low budget look adds to the "realism" of a scene. Kinda like the feel BLACKEDRAW goes for.
The length of the OF scenes isn't always short. They aren't the 30 minute to almost an hour scenes you get from some studios but honestly I'm pretty sure the vast majority of porn watchers aren't sitting through or a half hour of watching sex.. I have to image for most people 10 to 15 minutes is plenty. Again...It's porn. It's not like there's some intriguing plot going on that needs time to play out. That's not a knock on porn or the studios that make longer scenes or even the people who watch them. But the people who want or need those scenes are mostly for a specific type of viewer. And for the people producing mainstream porn it just isn't practical to produce a 10 minute scene in most cases. To be blunt... most people only want or need 10 to 15 minutes to do what they need porn to do.
Why do or why would a person join an OF site (page? or whatever it's called). Several reasons. They like the girl and want to stay abreast of what she's up to, want to have the ability to interact with her because it seems a lot or most girls only engage with fans on that platform. The person might want o be able to see exculsive content from that person they can't see anywhere else. Sometimes I think fans just want to support a girl they like. Many of the people here seem very caught up in the amount of money a girl is or could be making from her OF but many people out there don't care. They want to support people they like. Their attitude is that the person is providing something or a service they use and enjoy so they support it. Not much different than someone supporting money to a YOUTUBE channel or back a GOFUNDME or PATREON or KICKSTARTER page.
So little content? Not everyone goes to a OF page expecting it to be a substitute for a porn studio site. Most people don't watch porn daily. They aren't signing up expecting a constant stream of porn vids. They might be there to interact with the girl or are content seeing sexy pics from time to time. There are many, many INSTAGRAM models out there that have tons of followers that only post sexy pics. No actual sex. How little is too little? Depends on the person and what they expect. I think a girl needs to put out a fairly steady stream of content but I don't think it needs to be a nonstop stream of sex vids. I don't know how OF works but it would seem that after awhile she'd build up a library of scenes for fan to pick from and the need to constantly put out new stuff wouldn't be as important. I don't know.
The price: To be honest there's no easy answer to the amount a girl may or should charge. Should a current top 10 should be charging more than a pornstar who has been out of the business for years and decided to make her comeback on OF? No idea. For some people being able to see a fav retired pornstar with new content they can't see anywhere else i is worth more than seeing a current girl who shot 2 months ago for the major porn studios. Maybe the girl is offering sex acts she's never done for a studio. Does that justify her price? Maybe it's a girl who blows you away but she's never done porn anywhere except OF. Maybe a person think a basic subscription is a good deal but not worth paying for the "hot" stuff...or at least not all of it. maybe a person thinks it's worth it being able to see a girl they like and always delivers the goods instead of buying a subscription to a major porn site that is is often very hit or miss. Maybe you don't sweat the cost at all because you make a good living and it's chump change to you.
As I've stated in other threads, OF is still fairly new and if it sticks around it will evolve and get better. The girls will figure out the best price points, realize the may need to invest in better equipment, get a sense of what fans respond to best, and know how much time and effort they need to invest in it to attract and keep the most fans. This is just me giving an opinion based on what little I've seen of OF and not having actually ever signed up for one. I actually like the idea of OF as a whole. I'm always for creators of any kind of content to be able to get their content out there and reap the rewards for their efforts without some other entity ripping them off for the ability to do so. I also like the girls of porn in particular being more empowered. As far as the actual sex goes, from what I've seen I like it because it's a bit more natural than the typical studio stuff that can seem more directed and heavily edited. And maybe I'm imaging it but the girls seem more into it because they're working with people they may like or want to work with as opposed to being teamed up with people they may not be into or doing stuff they may not be particularly into.
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Posted - May 30 2021 : 3:43PM
I understand your point, but I don't understand the motivation behind it in general. When I support someone, it's animal shelters, child welfare organizations, or anyone else in need. But not people who can help themselves and where I have a vague idea what happens to the money. But that's my problem.
Where I agree with you is that many here, including myself, are not your typical porn fans.We all know the sites.Sites where in bad resolution a girl suckles on a half hard average Joe and then gets mounted in a ridiculous camera angle. I wouldn't even watch something like that for free, because to me it's an insolence. Millions of others love it because they have different standards. Millions watch Kevin James movies and I wouldn't even do that if my life depended on it.
Well, it's a problem many people have. It's kinda sad actually. As I mentioned before, if someone is creating or providing a service or content I like I see absolutely nothing wrong with showing my support. It's how they make their money. I'm giving based on me liking what they do. How much they make or have has nothing to do with it. Why should I be counting their money in that particular instance? If I'm in a restaurant and get great service from a waiter/waitress, I tip based on the service given to me and I'm not concerned with if he/she made a lot in tips already that night. I don't subscribe to a OF fans page but if I were a member of say...Riley Reid's OF page. I would happily show my support for her because she's putting in the effort to make content I might happen to think is great. And my support is me showing my appreciation for her efforts and talents that I'm enjoying. My enjoyment is the same whether she has $200 or $2,000,000 in her bank account and I shouldn't and don't care either way because I'm not giving based on her income.
What Have You Done To My Little Cable Boy? 2966 Posts 5/10
Posted - May 31 2021 : 4:12PM
^I understand your point about supporting someone for a service. The problem I have with OF is that I have the feeling that they only want to rip off lonely fools. Smartphone on the edge of the bed, dildo in the vagina...$30. Girls sell nude photos for $99. I have seen pornstars sell 10 year old scenes for $40. For me, this is not a serious business model.
If someone supports youtubers who consistently deliver content and make an effort, then that's absolutely fine with me. Tipping the cashier who has been on her feet for 8 hours is the most normal thing in the world. I myself support an NFL podcast that provides me with hours of entertainment each week. They don't charge me $20 per podcast, but offer me to voluntarily donate $1 per month. I would also donate more because I think it's fair and I realize what kind of (work) time these guys sacrifice for this podcast.
But to me, OF is not fair at this point. Maybe at some point this business model will reach a point where it is comprehensibly fair. For now, it's a rip-off for me.
I can understand paying for a month for a IG girl etc...that's never done anything like that before. However, I don't see how you can pay for a professional's page when you can see them for free. Site subscriptions at least give you a roster of girls and classics that might be hard to find otherwise.
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Posted - May 31 2021 : 4:57PM
I agree. And worst of all you can't see what you're even getting until paying.
Well, my guess is that people have low standards and are willing to settle. I don't get it personally. Unless you've literally seen everything a performer has produced, there's no reason the join. I can see it if its high quality or something that you can't normally find, but if you've seen a performer doing 50 DP's over the years, I can't see paying $15 to see her give someone a handjob.
Well, I totally agree that to me those type of prices seem outrageous. But as long as the girl has enough of a fanbase willing to pay those type of prices they really have no good reason to stop charging that much. As I mentioned before, I think OF will evolve over time because I don't know if that's a sustainable business model long term. At some point the newness will wear off and stop paying those kinds of prices if they feel it isn't worth it. The first one or two 30 buck pics might seem exciting and worth it but the 4th and 5th most likely won't.
I agree with you on this. I couldn't see myself paying a known pornstar for an OF membership to do things I can see her do multiple other places. At least with an IG girl or reality star you'd be getting real exclusive content you can't see anywhere else. Or maybe if a fav pornstar had retired and is making their comeback on OF and that's the only way you can see her. Basically, for OF to last it's going to have offer stuff you can't see anywhere else, or the prices will have to come down to the point it's just a supplement porn alternative that most people don't mind paying for. But that price point will be different for every girl. For right now the better plan might be to charge more of this smaller audience but in the future it will make more sense to aim for volume by charging less.
I recently subscribed to Kayla Kayden's OF because she was offering a free subscription for 30 days.
Within hours i got a DM where she was offering to grade your dick if you sent her a dickpic along with a $40 tip. That's laughable. 40 bucks to have her reply that your cock is awesome because you've paid her to say it. If she's even the one replying. That's some major scamming-on-lonely-guys-attitude right there.
1 I get to follow my favorite performers more closely. Since I started onlyfans last April I had to privilege of in particular getting to chat often with Sinn Sage. I look at her more as a friend. She doesnt demand tips, she is super chill and brutally honest. Where most girls hold back on info Sinn will share. She shared the story of how her and her husband Drake met. Cool story. She shared things about girls within the industry some that are good and some that are bad which shocked me in some aspects. Her live shows are fun and chill. Oh and the added bonus that I dont get to see with Sinn in mainstream is that she can squirt. Its really intense too. But there are so many others that I enjoy talking to from time to time and following closer like Abigail Mac, Whitney Wright, Casey Calvert, the list goes on. Another girl I had to privilege to talking to alot was a former director and performer in Nica Noelle. She told me things that just blew my mind of just what she experienced in the industry and what drove her out of the industry. Even with some of my favorite performers. The unfortunate thing about onlyfans for me is I cant follow most of the performers I want to consistently. I try to bounce around with plenty of them and I have a handful of those Im a constant with. But in general its great for me to gain a closer perspective of some of my favorite performers.
2 I get alot of dream pairings. As a fan I get frustrated when directors dont listen to the fans or even the performers themselves when it comes to their scene partners. Onlyfans gives the performers and the fans that chance. Had I not joined onlyfans I wouldnt get to see Kristen Scott and Abigail Mac together. I wouldnt get to see Karlee Grey and Ivy Lebelle together. Abigail and Adriana in terms of g/g only done one scene together mainstream. For onlyfans they have done two g/g scenes and four scenes altogether if you count the two b/g/g scenes they did which one of them was part g/g and then part b/g/g. Other great pairings as a fan I never got to see mainstream that I got to see on onlyfans is Kenna James and Casey Calvert, Casey and Alison Rey, Casey and Cadence Lux. Not to mention the performers can be as creative as they want to and the beauty is by shooting with the people they want to shoot with they are extremely comfortable and the scene is genuine and extra hot because I know they are into each other. I can never get enough of Jane Wilde and Lacy Lennon together so Im glad they linked up again and Ill be watching their new scene in the upcoming days because its out on Lacy onlyfans. Btw for anyone wondering how much that scene costs, its $12 for an over 22 minute scene. Some might say its too much but I say is more than fair and again I cant wait to see it. Then Lacy has more G/G scenes on the way in the upcoming weeks with Jewelz Blu, Ivy Lebelle, Chloe Cherry, and Charlotte Sins.
3 People bang on the prices but I find for the most part the prices are fair. Most of the girls Ive been following they either give fair prices for new releases or they give discounts down the road for the same content via separately or through bundles or like yesterday for Memorial Day the girls have sales for their content. I had to learn this over time because when I first started I was blown away with how much prices could be if I asked or with some girls just got them as soon as it was released. Im never going to count someone's money but I do think for the most part prices are fair for scenes and people paint this picture of $100 for a 15 minute scene that is poorly shot that is way overblown. I used to listen to people and think that then I joined onlyfans and found out thats not the case. I can think of one time in over a year of joining onlyfans that I paid $40 for a 17 minute scene that was shot via camera phone but I truly wanted the scene, I was new so I didnt know how onlyfans worked but Im not complaining because it was totally worth it. I will say that had I knew to wait I couldve gotten that same scene for like $10. Some fans are just like me in the aspect of they will support their favorite performers no matter what. If I want a scene really badly Ill pay $50 for a scene which Ive done too before even though I knew if I waited I couldve gotten it cheaper. The scene wasnt 15 minutes and it wasnt poorly shot either.
4 Ill continue with the discussion of supporting the performers. If you say you are a fan of a performer and throw all the love their way in words, then show action. Again Im not going to count someone's money so if you cant afford to do so then totally understandable. If you can then definitely its worth it. The performers truly appreciate it. Ive seen Adriana literally cry on live show because she said how grateful she is to her fans for supporting her. Gia Derza I saw on a live show nearly get emotional because she said how much she love her fans and grateful for them supporting her. Same with Whitney during her live. These are humans who really work hard to produce the best content. Its not them just throwing out content and wanting the fans to accept it. They literally ask their fans what type of content they love to see? What type of content they want to see more of? Lena Paul asked on her live if the fans want to see her shoot with Riley Reid? They never shot together and Lena said she has Riley contact and so Im assuming she is going to call and try to collab with her in the future. So yeah the performers actually care and want to put the best product out for the fans and also appreciate the fans supporting them. Im personally grateful to be able to support them on their platform because I know they dont get what they truly deserve mainstream. We as fans want them to shoot mainstream but we have to understand for the most part they dont make most of their living salary from mainstream. Everyone isnt Angela White or Adriana Chechik. Lacy Lennon even said most of her income is made from onlyfans. I think it will be easier for her to just focus on her platform because if you saw her the other day on a live you can see just how tired she is from being on shoot for "Black Widow" pulling at least 12 hours a day for like 4 or 5 days straight. Not to mention still having to do stuff for other companies and for her own platform. Its mentally and physically draining. So I totally understand why Lacy would want to start pulling away from the industry and focus more on her onlyfans.
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melonenom Deactivated User
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Posted - Jun 1 2021 : 12:18PM
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^^ According to your description, Onlyfans is exactly the thing for you
You want - interaction with the girl - support a selected number of girls - don't mind paying $50 for a video clip
If you're not into that, then it's obviously not for you.
I for example don't have any desires to interact with the girls, let alone calling them 'friends'. I like the anonymity on how to get my porn; I pay for it, and I get it. I don't want to join a service (pay), then ask and be at the mercy of the service provider whether my tip is good enough to perhaps get more.
I just read an article about Pippen's ex Larissa starting an OG.
This is what she said: "Welcome to my OnlyFans, a really fun way to get to know the real me and for me to interact one on one with my true fans!"
She added, "It's got behind the scenes of my wild life, me showing off my personal favorite swimsuits and lingerie, and live chats and personal DM's where we get to talk. I want to show women all over the world no matter where they are in life they can be sexy and successful! Subscribe to my page.
The thing is I only truly interaction with a selected few girls. Ill message girls if Im curious about content or have an issue with content but other than that Im truly not interactive with most girls. Its only a selective few. I only call for example Sinn Sage like a friend because her onlyfans is a friendly atmosphere. Her onlyfans is growing but for the most part its not that many who truly are interactive on her page so we are all friendly with each other and Sinn is extremely friendly with us all. It doesnt have that "business only" feel to it like Im sure other performers onlyfans might have.
I kinda do mind paying $50 for a video clip but just like anything in life if you really want something you pay for it. Like can count like 3x in over a year that Ive paid at least $40 for a video clip from someone. Most of the time its $25 or less. I have no complaints but twice out of many purchases. I hear all the horror stories about getting screwed out of money for customs or just flat out the performer being rude, taking their money, and blocking them. Sucks to hear but Ive never had any issues with that. My custom experiences have all been A++++ experiences. As for tips, Ive been on the mercy of a tip twice ever. Once was I truly believe a service trying to get over on me. I didnt pay a single cent than what I tipped which was $20 plus another $10 for them finally releasing it to me and not continuing to drag it out. The other time I think it was just a misunderstanding between me and the performer but its all about knowing how to talk to someone respectfully and I just tipped $20 got what I wanted. She even thanked me for supporting her and even followed me on onlyfans. If you want to know who Im talking about Ill tell you in the dms but she is the sweetest and her onlyfans is great in terms of getting deals and bundles for extremely cheap price that is sent to the dms.
As I say though that onlyfans isnt for everyone. I just personally get tired of hearing people bash it like it has no good qualities. Everything has its pros and cons but all I hear is people saying nothing but cons when Ive been a part of onlyfans for over a year now and Ive seen plenty of pros to it. Yes I can see the cons but its not all cons.
Exactly. That's why I only do the free subscriptions of OnlyFans.
What i really hate is when you're already paying $20 for a monthly membership and that same model you are subscribed to tries to charge you ANOTHER $20 for yet ANOTHER video.. or especially one you are already subscribed to charges you $8 for a picture you can't see yet, you pay the $8 to open it, and she's not even naked.
It's like a PG13 or R rated digital mystery box that' has crap in it.
^ My question is, do you talk to the model before you purchase the content? Also you arent obligated to purchase content if you dont want to. The model can send 100's of videos but you dont have to purchase them. Now I dont know what models you are sub to but usually if a model charges $20 to sub normally all of their content is unlocked so it sounds like again some people are just talking about a few bad apples and then making it out to be the entire bunch is the same. Its not. I can list off the top at least 10 that Id highly recommend and then another 5 off the top that Ive heard from many people that is great. I also understand that a model who I might have a great experience with someone else might not. Its like with Abigail Mac. Someone one here said the bad experience they had with her. Ive been sub to her for nearly a year and I cant say a single bad thing about her. She is incredible. Im not even being bias either. Abigail runs her onlyfans like a studio runs their site and she will work with you and is super friendly.
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somenamehere Deactivated User
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Posted - Jun 1 2021 : 5:51PM
At the very LEAST it should show on there what you get free and what will cost extra "before" to buy a subscription. it doesn't even let you see previews of what you will get.
^ I agree with you. Those who give previews are very much the exception in my experience.
As somebody else said in another topic, transparency may work to the detriment of OF if customers want certain quality content but the transparency in previews suggests it's not satisfactory and thus gets in the way of closing a sale.
I will repeat what I have previously written about OF. The day they are transparent about the content on their platform is the day they go out of business. If transparency was good for business then OF would force every one that uses their platform to do it. C4S and Many Vids offer a lot of similar content to OF but with a far more upfront approach so why aren't most OF models using them?
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melonenom Deactivated User
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Posted - Jun 2 2021 : 9:31PM
you are all wrong. I know the reason.piracy on onlyfans less than conventional porn,so they get rich very fast.I do not approve piracy.
Ppl like it bc they can watch a real hotwife fucking different guys or watch an IG model or their fav porn star or a girl from another social media. About the quality, Ik some models who shoot scenes in 1080 as so good as some big companies. And OF gives normal ppl the chance to create their own content and make money. White, black, asian, fat girls, skinny girl, bodybuilder girl etc. About the aldult actresses, why did many porn stars stopped shooting with big companies? Bc they now make more money "working for" OF and they don't have to fuck different guys every month. Why did the big conpanies stop booking some porn stars? Bc now the actresses in charge, I guess. It's the law of supply and demand.
A lot of good points in this thread. One aspect that you're all overlooking is the custom content. I subbed (free+paid) to several dozen women over the last few months and sent a request to almost all of them for a custom solo video, priced for 5-10mins. The more prominent stars were charging $100/min while some unknowns to this board were going all in for $20-30. The most outlandish was $1k for a 10min solo scene. After cutting all the dead weight accounts - with all their associated dm spam - I asked for custom selfies. A few said they don't take them (odd?), others jumped at the chance ($2-$10/pic), and one amazed me by completely flooding my dm with 40+ pics for a few dollars.
There are a lot of reasons to not like OF as a whole, but if you want direct interaction with a model for content you may never normally see, there is no better option I'm aware of.
I'm with you on that as well, I wouldn't pay more than $20 for a monthly sub to site with years of a back catalog, so $200 is headshaking. But I will say there are some exceptions and without getting too far into it there's more to solo content that a girl masturbating in front of a camera - I get your point but it isn't that simplistic. When someone is invested or devoted in some way to a specific model they'll do sometimes silly things to have a unique interaction or custom content made with their ideas that only they'll see. I shelled out a ton for a VR scene from one of my all time favorite models and it was worth every, single, penny - wouldn't do it for 99.99% of the models we see everyday, but from her it was worth it.
What Have You Done To My Little Cable Boy? 2966 Posts 5/10
Posted - Jun 6 2021 : 1:36PM
These sums of money in the back of the head - could one not already speak of pathological behavior? I don't know how familiar you are with FIFA Ultimate Team (I'm not). But read that kids and teens invest tons and I mean tons of money for something without any value. This is pure addictive behavior, where you can no longer justify these sums rationally. I actually think that people want to reward themselves for that one moment and do it regardless of the cost. Therefore, for me, OF is similarly dangerous as gambling or other virtual forms of entertainment.
Hence the name; ONLYFANS. I guess the thinking is if you're a big fan of that person/performer you're willing to pay above and beyond for that sort of interaction and exclusive content. If you're just someone who wants to simply view porn, OF probably isn't a practical porn alternative. Pretty much all pornstars have fans who are into them beyond just watching their videos/scenes and follow them on social media, interact with them personally, and even buy them gifts. So it shouldn't be a surprise that some people would be into OF and are willing to subscribe and pay extra for the chance to a "relationship" with that girl/pornstar they couldn't have by other means. If they have the time, devotion, and money I guess it's no big deal to them to shell out the bucks to do so.
As far as the prices go...It all depends. It depends on the fan and it depends on the girl. If the girl is a big name pornstar perhaps she feels it's not worth the trouble to set up a video shoot that only one customer will see and she can't make any more money off of for less than X amount of dollars. Perhaps her set-up isn't made to just do a quick shoot for little money and the effort and time involved isn't worth it for a quick cheap shoot. It's not like when a porn studio shoots something and the have a crew, equipment, and ability to make that quality product and will have various ways that content will generate money for them. Think about the difference in price between a small privately owned business vs a franchise or chain of businesses. Plus, the big name OF player might see that offering "cheap" prices might lower her "brand".
On the other hand...perhaps there are OF girls/models who know or realize their best business model is to offer more for less because her fanbase is different. They have far fewer fans or they have fans who simply won't spend the big bucks on their content. They're better off with a smaller but more faithful fanbase and they have to do more and perhaps charge less to keep them. Or perhaps her fans are much more content with lower quality content. Maybe that girl doesn't have the expensive camera to pay for. Maybe she's a one woman operation and doesn't have to pay her help. Maybe her fans are happy to just get a selfie of her in the bathroom mirror. Maybe she does everything the big time OF people do but doesn't have a lifestyle that requires her to make X amount of dollars per month. Maybe they've realized that it's better to have more affordable prices and perhaps have more members than have fewer and charge that smaller group more.
A lot of models on OF come from the webcamming world. Webcam models and their fans are very different from the kind of pornfans that are on this board. Paying $10/minute for a custom video is sort of the starting price there. Have a look at the top rooms on Chaturbate or MyFreeCams and get surprised by the money being dropped by the members/fans. OF is owned by the same guy that owns MyFreeCams, I'm sure he is well aware of how that works.
What Have You Done To My Little Cable Boy? 2966 Posts 5/10
Posted - Jun 6 2021 : 4:08PM
Regardless of how much money you have available, something like this can lead to unhealthy behavior. The wealthy speculate with shares not only for the sake of money, but also to satisfy an emotion, a desire. And as you say, the OF customer is not necessarily about porn. It's about the interaction and being a part of the girl's world. At some point, the customer gets lost in this fantasy world where he thinks he has a bond with the girl. The girl doesn't give a shit about the customer. She cares about the money. But the customer gets to a point where he is irrational with money and that's when it starts to get dangerous.
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