Now the other major issues of OF

1) Lack of previews, lack of easy download option, lack of descriptions. Everything is at the discrecy of the creator, so she can say something wich turn out to be half false but too late, you bough it already. Sometimes you can see the lengh of the video but if its multiple videos, you can't, all you see is 2 vids, but could be 2x 30 secs... OF should require a 30 sec trailer, or a preview miniature of every PPVs... so you know what you get.

2) The Price...

It used to be roughly 30$ for a monthly subs to a porn site, while you get acces to at the very least 1 full lengh scene a week and acces to the back catalog. OF expect you to pay 15-20 sometimes 30 and sometimes ridiculous prices like 50$US for a 2 min nude tities video? WTF !! And ok maybe those creators are not my thing and maybe their so call "famous" status of IG model give them an edge, but even the ones doing hardcore and all, not famous or anything, i often see 30$ for 5 mins... yikes. There should be a rule or something that you can't charge more than a certain price per minute.

But the issues is peoples end up paying for it, even myself despising this concept i sometimes buy PPVs. Tonigh i saw one girl post a 6 min BJ video, she mentioned mention and cum swallow, wich i love, and i been wanting to see her in hardcore for so long, but her prices were always 25-30US for 4 mins or so, too much. Especially since in CAD$ you have to add a bunch. But tonight, 6 mins, 15$... i said oh whatever, finally my chance at "decent" price. But yeah..OF ... they add some taxe (ok just 75 cents but still) + with convertion it became 20$CAD. Turn out the video was good at least, but it was filmed sideways, i presumed it was POV, there was NO PREVIEW at all. So you see the issue?

OF need regulation or something, cause at this moment its the farwest of porn, completely Free for All and its killing the industry. Yes you can see girls who would had maybe never go shoot mainstream in L.A or Florida etc, but before you would pay 30$ for a porn site and get acces to ton of porn, now you pay the same price for less than 10 mins. At least i found a way to download the content (its not a hack or anything, very simple in browser) but otherwise i wouldn't buy out ANYTHING. If i pay for something, im downloading it !! Its mine to keep.

By the way, if you guys are familiar with the concept of PPV in mainstream, there seem to be that general consensus going on for OF too but the issue is you can't just go talk porn casually with your family..

I mean take Disney + PPV releases. Some peoples i know in a FB group about cinema are happy to pay 30$ for the release of a movie because they have 3 kids and are 2 adults. Going to the theatre for them would cost them more than this. Some others will gather their friends, suddenly if you are 4-5 peoples, 30$ is nothing. But what if you are alone? I live alone, no kids, no girlfriend, very few friends IRL and the few i have don't live near, they are scathered around. So for ME renting a movie at 30$ would mean 30$ spent myself, thats way too much IMO. Going to the theatre only cost me less than 8$ and i just don't care to buy popcorn or drinks (unless there is keepable promo material, then it cost more but i get to keep it so its worth it) . I saw Black Widow in theatre for 7.75$, i paid 18$ for the 2 metal buckets (no popcorn, just the buckets), so yeah it costed me close to 30$ but i saw it in freaking theatre with the giant screen and those buckets i kept them... Ill buy the movie on bluray when it get to 20$ or so, but renting at 30 no way.

UFC/WWE been the same in the past, at times i had friends to watch and it was worth it to put each a 15$ or less on it, and i would record it on a VHS, but alone i would NEVER get a PPV at 60$, way too much.

So to get back to OF i feel a PPV would be worth buying if you buy it as a group. But will you ask your real life friends for this? Usually you keep your porn desire to yourself. There is some peoples willing to trade on the internet but i supose the moderators considering their usual POV will consider this piracy and would not accept it here.

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As for the "cellphone" theory, I MAYBE have like 5 vids that are clearly cellphone shot. I purchase alot of content from onlyfans since Ive been on there for over a year. I have experienced as Ive subbed to a total of 75 models. If you want in a private dm I could give you all the names. Anyways, the ones that I sub too it vid content is shot by someone else. Either a husband/boyfriend, another performer, a friend, or a director they hired. And when I say like husband/boyfriends I mean like Casey Calvert she shoots her scenes and Im sure her husband Eli helps her too and both are directors. Not to mention other people Casey shot for and with like Nicole Emma and Corwin Prescott. All have extremely great quality content. Karla Kush I have vids where her boyfriend Alex shoots and he is a male talent. So Im sure he is sure he has some clue about camera angles and stuff. Now Im not saying its perfect. Camera angles, sometimes the editing, and other things. Im not saying its terrible either. I come away super impressed more times than not with how the vid is shot. These models with technology is impressive. I remember on mode, Sinn Sage, l that I talk to her regularly told me her technology is so good that companies approached her to get her content to use for their site. She even seen some of her content on a dvd when she went to a sex shop and saw porn dvds. I can vouche for her too as she is someone I probably got the most content from and its well shot and the content is really good. Her husband Drake Man-O-War shoots her stuff. Sometimes Sinn has Courtney Trouble shoot stuff for her as well since they are close and she apart of Trouble Films. We know Courtney is a model too and is well-known behind the camera. So again for at least the models Ive subbed to its not like Im paying for vids that are just thrown together poorly shot.

Then the "you cant download content" theory. YES YOU CAN DOWNLOAD FROM ONLYFANS. You cant directly download from the site. You have to down it from outside sources. Now models dont like their content to be downloaded because they know their is always someone with bad intentions to steal it and make a profit themselves. Models also know that us consumers like to keep the content we purchase for ourselves. So models will even send you links when you can download it without using an outside source yourself. I dont know if all models use it but the one model I mentioned, Sinn Sage, there are times Ill go to her for a purchase to get content cheaper on her onlyfans that I saw on manyvids for a higher price. She tells me to tip her which is normally $15 for btw normally a 25+ min great quality scene. She will then ask for my email address to send me to a link which I think is dropbox and I go to that link and download the vid from there. Outside her because she dont flood dms with locked messages, those who do I typically pay for the content then download it in the "purchased" area and just keep it all for myself.

So again this is what Im talking about. Now Im not saying every model isnt like what you are saying. Sometimes even the models I have subbed to at various points put content out thats super expensive. One model that I love and adore. She has a special place in my heart but out two scenes both shot by the famous director Mike Quasar. One scene was almost 21m for $40 and the other scene was almost 15m for $30. Both was with the same model which Im a big fan of too. They shot mainstream a couple of times already so they had chemistry and I know it was going to be great. I understood why those scenes was expensive. They had to pay Mike Quasar who wasnt cheap plus the who setup. I just was like $70 for the two scenes combined is expensive. So I waited for almost month then she re-released the both scenes in a bundle for $25 and I got them. So just by waiting a saved $45 and those scenes were incredible. I just think we need to get way from constantly talking about the same thing because it comes across like its that way for every model on onlyfans when its not.

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There can be a tremendous variety in expectations and results even with just one pornstar at OF.

To really know the score, unless she and her OF account are reviewed elsewhere (reddit?), you "need" to join.

Few models will list most of their particulars before you join, but I have seen it very occasionally (once - lol).

The most I have ever seen for a video was when I was at Anetta Keys OF.
She wanted $100, and it was not a long video.
And I don't think there was even a preview pic.
Many of her other offerings were expensive, too.

I had joined to ask her for a custom but thought twice when seeing that price.

Then she made me a 5 min fetish custom for $20, which is extremely inexpensive for a woman with her following.
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I have asked two OF models to add previews to their PPVs, and both were happy to do so.
I don't think they had thought about or knew about it. Just a guess.

You are correct that OF is like the far west or Wild West, of porn, or in general, even. It is true that some girls would not have the looks needed to be a studio star, but some guys have other interests, like certain fetish activities. I have a certain fetish based on a girl's face, and some of the girls are not considered attractive by most. So actually I do like the idea that just about any girl can register. Back in the days before the Internet, after I got my high-school yearbook, I had wished there were a worldwide yearbook of all the girls faces. So now we have it.

I think there should always be a Wild West component, in the sense of who the newest available girl is, but I agree that the offerings and the prices need to be much clearer than the nonsense that is happening now.

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You mentioned Anetta Keys. Ive never heard about her OF until now. So to me that tells me all I need to know. Doesnt mean its a bad thing either its just if her OF was good then I wouldve heard about it. There are plenty of OF accounts Ive yet to sub to but Ive constantly heard they are great. But the model you mention does sound like someone who yes can turn people off. But she dont represent those who do run great OF accounts.

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I agree with what you are saying.

Another reason I have joined OF is to get access to a well-known producer or director with regard to stars who have worked for them. As an example, I subbed to Gerald Saunders OF because he had worked in the past with one of my favorite stars, Julie Robbins. I am a collector of older pornstars works. I was hoping he could help me find some of her older DVDs no longer available. I figured that paying a few dollars to his account was a good starting point. He ended up finding no physical DVDs, but he did find digital versions (iso files) of 7 of them.

Gerald is one of the good guys. Eventually I ended up paying him hundreds of dollars for copies of those iso's and for over 9000 pics he had of her in his collection, most of which I had not seen before, despite what I thought was a pretty thorough search by me on the Internet. He even found a high-quality bondage video I knew nothing about. I offered a price that I thought was incentivizing. He spent hours and hours on this. I also bought him a scanner to create jpgs of slides that he had of her (another good use for PayPal). He has a special fondness for Julie, as many others have.

Later, remembering that he had worked with another of my favorites, Sophie Strauss, I offered him a considerable amount for copies of the best digital versions of his scenes he made with her, along with about 5000 pics. Some of the digital files were noticeable improvements in quality over the site files (Sophie as KatieReynolds.com). I think there were 55-60 of these videos.

So potential access to videos and pics through OF by contacting producers and directors is another potential use of OF.

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Speaking of directors, I once sub to a favorite director of mine who retired from the industry. Her name is Nica Noelle. I thoroughly enjoyed the conversations alone with her. Outside of chatting with Sinn Sage, Nica was the only other person I chatted with the most since I joined OF. She gave me alot of eye opening insights of the industry from both in front and behind the camera. Even some stories about some of my favorite performers she had a chance to work with. Some were definitely shocking but I asked for her to be brutally honest and she was. For those who might be interested in joining her OF I think she shoot independently some things and she also is into ASMR content. She is extremely nice and appreciative of those that support her.
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I think of sites like OF and ManyVids as sites ready for a Treasure Hunt.
We may not even know what the treasure is, but we will when we find it.
It is like when I go to a discount store looking for any really interesting-looking used book.
I have no specific title in mind.

One of my go-to girls is Makayla Cox. She too tells me interesting BTS tidbits if I ask her, but tries to be discrete about it.
She will tell me things that are not going to hurt anybody if known. I think that is a great approach.
I will develop one tidbit here as I do not think it is one that needs to be kept private.

For her scene in the DVD Big Butt Brotha Lovers 4, she has a lot of makeup.
She says she felt it made her look like a transsexual, which she really did not want to appear as.
She says she went to a gay make-up artist and she ended up looking the way she did in this pic.

I thought she looked sultry as usual, but more so, and did not see the "tranny look" initially myself, but now I see there is a hint of that.

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And yeah, sure, there are girls charging, what I think are exorbitant fees for very little content, there are also girls who provide amazing value. Again, it's mostly about research.

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For instance i was happy to see CAPRI CAVANNI back in porn at first, i always enjoyed her stuff, especially at the end when she started to open more (doing IR bukkake for instance) but i have 0 interest to only see Solo content of a porrnstar i have dozens of better videos already filmed professionally and more of my style on my hardrive.

I subbed to a few pornstars free or cheaps OF (5$) and i have not enjoyed them... I don't want to be direspectfull and dunno if i should mention names but even tough the content didn't seem too expensive, it was just not interesting to me. 5$ for a topless selfie... Im sorry but im not interested when i have 30 videos of you in hardcore sex...

Then as much as it may sound weird to complain on too much content, one star i subbed to had gazillion content on her OF but since there was SO MUCH of it, it took forever to scroll them and find the good parts i wanted to see (full lengh B/G scenes) in the millions of mundane solo clips of 2 mins. Ill admit back then i didn't knew how to download on OF so i had to always scroll and go this painfull procces and it annoyed me. OF is not optimized to be a "real porn site" and it show. And the buffering... arg. Not my connection as Youtube, Netflix etc always play fine.

I would say i subbed to about maybe 8 pornstars overall, some being active or semi active, some just shooting OF stuff and it was just disapointement because honestly i have maybe 50-60$ of budget to put on porn per month, wich usually is enough to nail 1 sub on a big website and 1-2 Manyvids videos. But going the OF route it goes fast putting a 5 there, a 10 there to sub, then realizing you will need to put 10-15$ on almost every scenes if not more.

So to go back to the beginning, yes the 30$ for vids is mostly to women who never did porn mainstream. I know im contradicting myself there as i crap on OF but at the same time im a bit thankfull to it, but the thing is as much as it bothers me to admit it, without OF they would had probably never do porn, they only do it cause its on their term and pays them extremely well for minimal efforts. I mean i can shoot a 6 min video on my cell anyday of the week, barely any editing to do, just make sure the light is good enough, and its good for upload, ask for 20+$ and boom there you go... easy $. Very different than a pro porn shoot requiring hours of prep-shoot time and a crew. Yet the porn site is still only 30$ per month while 1 OF video is 20-30... go figure. But these women i sub to, they are either IG models, or they worked as ... well... i don't think i can mention the word here, but lets say ...another Sex work job, so there is some "kinkyness" in having hardcore or even nude pics of them and i supose im willing to pay a bit more for it, altough i refuse to put crazy ammounts either, either by principle or simply because i just don't have the budget for it.

That said, when they do a big discount, im hoping they notice more peoples buy, so maybe it would help them offer lower prices more often. I mean 2 scenes at 15$ or 1 at 30 nail them the same $. Yes the 2 scenes combo require a bit more work, but like i said OF work is not the most demanding, most of the time its them having sex with their BF or FF, its not a multi hour shoot of work.

As for asking them in DM to put previews or better descriptions, gotta be carefull, some of these girls are very entitled and susceptible, you could get banned for something completely ridiculous even if very polite and nicely asked. So i try to avoid DMs unless i know the model personally.

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My secret is to say something gently, like "Did you know that you can add previews?"
Then tell her that she could make more money because guys want some idea as to what they are buying.
Or mention that other models offer previews.

Or maybe try being a bit funny and say "Otherwise it is like a Blind Date."

I tend to go the DM route because I usually join for customs.

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Now on OFs you have scenes selling for over $30. The issue is that people will pay for it and that keeps the price gouging going. I am starting to see some OF creators doing sort of an unspoken rule and charging about a dollar per minute of video. Truth is I could live with that more than the $15 for 4 minutes of film.

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It used to be that I could not combine pics with videos when sending DMs.

And before that, I think I could only send one type of pic (JPEG) in a given DM.

I seem also to recall that if there was a forbidden word in a DM, OF would either delete the DM or not highlight what was forbidden.

There have been definite technological improvements at OF in the past year.

Do you guys remember when OF actually had the "Pornstar is typing . . ." live reply notification? That one I have not seen for about a year.
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I mean I have seen recently pornstars asking for $30 for their old porn scenes. As if you can t find better quality even if you pay for it online elsewhere for way cheaper.
Idk but OFs has a "there's a sucker born everyday to exploit" type vibe that is very evident and unattractive.

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just filled to the brim with filler crap.

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I just received this PPV offer from an OF Content Creator:

Should I Go For It or Grow From It?

It is kind of a Gray Area.

I am going with Resistance Training.

Edited by - kronas77 on 7/21/2021 9:39:58 AM

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Be well

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Actually, I am not spending $100 unless it is a bunch of videos. I was trying to be a bit sarcastic.
But that did not come across as such. So I apologize for putting you through your paces.

I subbed to the model who posted the PPV offer because she has ownership of some Sophie Strauss videos that are at a higher resolution than the ones I have.
They are Bellezza videos that seem no longer available elsewhere on the Internet, and I am hoping to get some e-copies of them at a price.

Thanks again.

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It looks like something you would've found on the internet circa 1999.

There is only one model on this planet now that I would part with money for on that site (September Carrino) but she no longer models sadly.

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Always keep in mind, when on OnlyFans, a lot of times it's your dick doing the thinking not your brain, so you have to be conscious about having your brain do the thinking for you.😅

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Bellezza Videos - Interview with Omar

Omar is just a guy who wanted to make some porn on the side, celebrating a woman's sexuality.

He eventually wasn't making enough money from his DVDs, as DVDs were losing their appeal over time.

In 2012, he passed the baton to Amber Chase, whom he had collaborated with.

The BellezzaVideos.com site was active from 2005-2016, according to the Wayback Machine.

Omar on Sophie Strauss:

Sophie just has a gift of sensuality. I think I could shoot her singing karaoke in a bear suit and it would be sexy.
I just aim the camera in her general direction, look through the viewfinder and fall in love!
She just moved to England and says she's out of the business.
I wish her well, but will miss watching her come. (She ALWAYS comes.)

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So the same OF Content Creator who offered the $100 PPV VR video on the left now has this offer on the right:

So almost anything is possible.

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Yes porn is a fantasy but I am watching real human beings so I want to have sex be at least somewhat real too. Real sex isnt close to what is shown in scenes. There are already many people believe no girl has ever had a real orgasm ever on set. Plus I feel like the best moments are those you dont see. So if you want the camera angles and all the outrageous positions for visual pleasure then good and fine. I just want a genuine authentic scene. A scene with real sex, real passion, and real orgasms. Isnt that what studios try to sell to the fans? A scene that has little to no direction just two or more people having sex. Where its not a "job" per say because they have to deal with the director and everyone else on set. They just cut the camera on in the setting they want to be in and just have sex with those they want to have sex with. Not someone they just showed up on set 5 minutes ago and met for the first time. I like it where someone that girl been been flirting with on social media then got their number started texting and calling flirting with each other more. Set up a date and time to do content trade and then have amazing sex. Now I do get that style isnt for everyone and thats another reason why OF is a turn off for people. Just know that its not the end all be all. Sinn Sage has her work brought and released by studios. If you saw her work you wouldnt come away saying its OF stuff. You would clearly come away impressed.

The advantage OF has is we the fans have a bigger voice to tell directly performer A Id like you to shoot with performer B and it happens. For example, I mentioned to Sinn about two or so months ago about wanting her to shoot with Kenna James. She didnt even know Kenna lived in Vegas. Once I told her she did Sinn said she would reach out to Kenna. Well guess what, I got a newsletter since Im registered to Sinn studio that says Kenna is one of the girls available for her to shoot content with 8/29/21. Im so excited. Tell me how long or how much would it take for us the fans to mention to a studio we would love for pornstar A to shoot with pornstar B and they make it happen? My guess is either a very very long time or never. Perfect example is Ive been wanting to see Elexis Monroe and Cherie DeVille shoot for the longest. Heck even both Elexis and Cherie themselves gushed on twitter about wanting to shoot together. Thats been years ago when We Like Girls project for Girlsway started. They still havent shot together. Not for Girlsway not for Bellesa House, although I think Jacky is more likely to make that happen since she was active in a reason back and forth with Elexis and I going back and forth about how it need to happen with her and Cherie even Cherie jumped in again saying how it needs to happen. But still directors having to see tweets like that with Elexis and Cherie you would think someone would jump on booking them asap for G/G.

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OF isn't perfect, nothing is, but it does put a vast amount of control into the hands of the men and women who are actually doing the performances. Quality will catch up with the tech they're using, it always does, but the important thing is that the problematic parts of the industry remain locked out by the very nature of how the site operates. Now that an easily-accessible option exists the current state of many mainstream sites shows how poorly managed and devoid of creativity they really are.

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A lot of older and vintage porn featured storylines. And web porn from the early 2000s often seemed a lot more free-spirited and less formulaic than now.

Brazzers scenes with the multi-talented Kelly Divine from around 2010 were also a lot of fun. Some of those scenes were/are epic and at up to 12K bit rate.

In this one, Penis vs Asshole, the scene begins in a crowded bar.

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I argue that the pandemic is the primary reason why OF became so popular among most performers because they basically lost one of their main source of income and since strip clubs were not open then OF became one of the only sources to earn a living. Time will tell if my theory is accurate because I think that a lot of performers that migrated to OF will migrate back to porn studios as more and more studios start to shoot on a regular basis and more performers notice that fewer and fewer people are signing up to their OF account because word as gotten around that their content is mediocre at best.

P.S: Physical media was already at deaths door long before the pandemic or OF happened and there is nothing that could have prevented that so while it may suck for people who still want or worse have to buy their porn on physical media. These people are shit out of luck because the dvd/Bluray is going down the same route as the VHS/Beta tape went.

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It will be a cold day in hell before I take what happens on twitter seriously. Twitter is basically a bunch of individual soap boxes where each person promotes his or her views/opinions or attacks somebody else's views/opinions. You can literally lie on Twitter and nothing happens.

If you truly believe that OF is such an amazing platform then you should be able to offer accurate information about all the various models/performers OF account you are a member of. Which ones are good and why they are and which ones are bad and the reasons why. You among most of us seem to enjoy what OF has to offer so if you can't do that then I have to wonder if you truly enjoy OF.

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People can take how they view Twitter any way they want to. Im just stating what I see. If OF was all around bad hardly nobody will be supporting it. Just think of OF like a TV series. There are reasons why some TV series dont make it past the 1st or 2nd season. No matter the demographic or location its just bad all around because nobody likes it so the ratings are horrible and it gets cancelled. If OF was as bad as many people on here say it is then Idk if its here or on Twitter there would be little to no support for it. Id like to think those on Twitter for the most part do see the positives and they enjoy themselves. I talk to a few individual people on Twitter in the dms and we rave about how great OF is with specific accounts. We also discuss the negatives too just to be aware of those who dont run their OF account in the way we think its great. But hey there or those who might think that same OF account is great. So it goes back to what I always say, every OF account isnt for everyone.

I have offered accurate information about various models. Have youve been paying attention? Not just you but so many others have confirmation bias and would rather read an article about someone who might have only signed up to MAYBE 5 OF for possibly just the full 30 days and said how bad it is and then yall run with it saying "see I told you it was bad". You ignore people like me who has joined 75 OF accounts and alot of them multiple times if I choose not to stay subbed past 30 days I eventually came back at some point. Some Ive stayed subbed all the time like Abigail. Ive been a proud member of her for well over a year now. Sinn Ive been a proud member of her for well over a year now. I know the pros and cons. Trust me the pros outweigh the cons in my mind. Not trying to be a simp either. Although I dont mind at all being a simp but I try to tell it like it is. Trust me I was once not even thinking about joining OF until I did. I joined at the worst possible time to. That was during the very hardship of the pandemic. People was locked down. They couldnt shoot with other people. It was nothing but solo vids and solo lives. Unless you was someone like Adriana and Abigail who had their men with them to do some form of B/G content and I rarely watch B/G now so for me it wasnt pleasant outside of getting their older content that they kept releasing. My point is even in the worst possible time I still enjoyed myself. Live shows were fun with Adriana who live for her fans and love her fans. Abigail loves her fans I the more I join her live shows the more Im like we are all just cool hanging out and having fun with Abigail. She constantly does silly stuff to make us laugh. I could tell you the story on how the fans pranked Adriana in a live. I can tell you a story on how I got Abigail one time on a live show lol. What impresses me about Abigail is that she can go from being silly in one moment then super sexual in the next and its like I went from laughing too hard at her to now Im super turned on by her. But thats just the beginning because there are so much I enjoy with many of models Ive followed but especially the ones that Ive followed closely like I just mentioned with Adriana, Abigail but then I must add my personal favorite OF account Sinn Sage and then Whitney Wright and Casey Calvert. Casey did a live with her close friend Nicole and it was super fun. But Im just only talking about lives which just scratches the surface. I love the content and just the interactions. I rarely do with most but the ones that I do interact with I love it.

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So I mentioned the two live shows with Adriana and Abigail. Ill tell both stories and if you join their onlyfans I believe both still have those shows saved so you can go to their archives and watch it. I believe I ended up downloading the one with Abigail and saving for myself to go watch it but I can confirm 100%. I do know I have two live shows I downloaded and saved for myself with Abigail. One show was where I tipped $100 and she did a little something special just for me in the show. The other one was the most epic solo show Ive seen. Im not usually into solos, like live shows are different than just a girl shooting a solo vid. But this solo with Abigail was epic.

Anyways the one with Adriana was insane. So she was on the trampoline and she wanted to show her fans how she can do this flip in the air on it. So the fans all got to together was like lets pretend the feed was cut and we all missed it. So Adriana did an amazing flip on the tramopline. She got back to talking to fans asking if they had seen it. They started saying "what flip", like they all was saying how the screen went black and screen froze and they missed it. The look of disappointment Adriana had on her face because she truly thought everyone missed it. Then someone had to spoil and say every worked fine for him and he saw everything lol. So then everyone had to admit they was just pranking her. Adriana was so embarassed that she got pranked. She then said she will get everyone back. I remember a live show where she definitely got everyone back. She was doing a B/G with her man. They was going at it like everything you can think of. Sloppy BJ, different positions, I think anal, definitely feet stuff. Adriana goes all out on her live shows to be naughty. So you can tell when people watching are really into it because it goes from alot of chatting to barely no chatting. Adriana and her man usually discuss how they want to cum and where? The fans make suggestions and Ill say that those who tip the most or at least time reasonable get more influence but also too the majority if they want it regardless of tipping will influence well. So when they was discussing cumming and Adriana knew everyone was good a ready to cum she all of a sudden told everyone goodnight and cut the stream off lol. It was so hilarious that even I had to go to her dms send her a tip and was like you pulled a good one lol. Like that alone was worth a tip lol. All those guys and girls but mainly guys was left hanging. She then said later on how they did finish but they were having such good sex in front of us that they needed to have alone time to finish the amazing sex they was having. I cant fault them for that.

So the Abigail one was just me being me which is just too silly. You get one silly person in Abigail and another silly person in me who will take something a run with it and crazy things happen. So the way Abigail lives used to work was she had a wheel. You tip $10 she spin it for you and do whatever it lands on. You tip $20 you either get two spins or you can ask her to do something. Well someone tipped $20 and asked her to run around the room naked. Well Abigail literally had to run around her bed then roll over her bad to get to the other side and repeat that for a bit. She was exhausted plus she gets hot and sweaty. So I took that idea and ran with it. I tipped her $20 and told her to run around the room naked. So she had to do it again lol. And then I tipped another $20 and said run around the room naked again. So she had to do it again lol. Like it literally was a work out for her but I got a kick out of it but I told her I was just ribbing on her and that she knows I love her so Im going to just stop lol. Like she was exhausted and out of breath literally but it was so funny seeing Abi running and rolling over the bed all those times. Great sight seeing her tits bouncing. She is definitely a trooper for that. The one thing I do know is she definitely knows at least speaking for myself, she knows I appreciate her. She appreciates me for it. The sweetest thing she has ever done for me was for my birthday. I ordered a birthday custom and she actually gave me a great deal on it since it was my birthday. She not only delivered it to me the second the clocked turned to the day of my birthday but she wished me happy birthday on Twitter. So not only is Abigail so funny, and so just freaking drop dead gorgeous, but she is a total sweetheart.

I have other just stories too I could tell but those two jump right out at me and those moments are honestly priceless to me. Why? Because Ive been following Adriana and Abigail since they came into the industry and I always knew they had the personality but to experience it as close as you possibly can experience it first hand its really special. That wouldnt have happened if OF never existed.

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- No decades long saga and trends to be discussed regarding OF

- Plotting, camerawork, production, set photography - no deep discussion to be had relating to OF.

- While a certainty a "force" in the market, OF is a drop in the bucket on multiple factors compared to traditional porn (don't let tweet or Insta visibility suggest engaged viewership)

I don't see much engaged, actual discussion anywhere online relating to OF content, only performer kudos/fans, or meta-discussion like here.

What is it you'd like to discuss more specifically about OF?

(And I generally like OF, per my comment above)

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