Penny Flame

and as far as organizing something for this friday.....I gotta shake my booty up on stage in sac town. Blep.

oh yeah.....that is a dope idea ultra. A stan and wendy skit. Do you really think they would let me use the names? maybe I'll see if he's on myspace.....

good night guys, I'm pooped

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"You want him to do what on me? Fuck that, get me that tube of Anal-Eeze."

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[deadly little miho]

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Anyway, I just wanted to add that she seems like a cool chick.

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Great to see that you post here. I would like to ask you about the Playtime Videos you did. I have almost all of them. All of the JO encouragement ones for sure. You were the reason I started getting into those. I love the concept of one girl doing a scene for the viewer and telling him to whack off to her. I'm actually not into how degrading of the viewer your Dolly character would get in some of them, but I still love them.

The thing about you is that you were able to mix it up and not say the same thing every time. You often would just wing it and go off on tangents, but you kept them interesting. Do you think you will be doing any more of them? They are great if I really need to nut in a hurry. No other porn is as reliable to get me off. And I was so glad when you started doing hardcore. To see your pretty face covered in cum, and your incredible rack bouncing around as you get pounded is amazing. Thanks and keep up the good work.

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No Beer, No TV, Make Homer Go Crazy!

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ANYWAY.... I digress. The whole "anal diet" thing is just a bunch of bullshit. These girls need to learn how to do an enema correctly. In the 90s, girls were eating full dinners (not tacos or beans mind you) the night before anal and DP scenes. We were snacking on fruit and salad the day of our scene. And no, we weren't having "accidents" on set.
My guess is some lazy porn girl didn't know how to do an enema correctly and had an accident on set. So the next time she had to do an anal scene, she freaked out and decided not to eat the night before... just in case. That scene turned out fine, so she made it a habit. She started telling her friends. They were all meth fiends who didn't need to eat anyway, so they said, cool.
Next thing you know, girls getting into the business were being told by "veterans" of a whole year in the business that the way to prepare for an anal scene is to not eat for 24 hours before.
Start getting booked for anal every day, and bam - you're not eating anymore.

The European girls know what they're doing, which is why they can do so much anal but still don't look like walking skeletons.

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the old days are gone with the furry bush monster pussy.

the days when anal was cutting edge are just as gone.

when you convince someone that the only way they will be successful is if they take it up the ass, you are takin away their pride and self worth. you give them no other choice than to starve themselves because taking it in the ass is "the only way."

to the last post, you make it sound like you used to be an adult star, but you obviously have forgotten how it feels to have guys think that you aren't a real person, and that you should be their fuck doll and do whatever you want.

Diet or no diet, the fundamental purpose of an asshole is to shit. that is why we can't reproduce "ass children". That is not what its made for.

My best friend is having a hard time working right now because every time she goes to work, her asshole bleeds. it's not because she does wants to get fucked in the ass everyday, it's because of a forum very much like this that convinced her the only way she would be cool is if she took it up the ass.

Now if you knew your favorite pornstar bleeds out of her asshole everytime she gets fucked (just to keep you happy by the way) would you still wanna jack off?

You take away her free will when you make her choose to do anal. Because it's not a choice between taking it in the ass or not, its a choice between being loved or not. and any young insecure girl is going to make the obvious choice.

That's why the majority of girls last so short. Because they try and please you.

and it destroys not only their body, but who they are as a person. it's time to start using this forum as a way of conversing with your favorite pornstar, getting to know who she really is.....it is not, however, meant to bully girls into doing things that they may not want to do.

I bet your favorite pornstar would have lasted longer if she didn't have to put up with bullshit people telling her what to do and what not to do.

We are real people, and I doubt that you would ever talk to anyone you met on the street like you talk to us on here. Try and have a little respect for the women that keep you happy in your lonely pathetic life.

In fact, why don't you try taking it up your ass when you don't like to to make some fuckin guy happy that you have not only never met, but also who has never actually purchased one of your dvds......he just downloads em from free sites.

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One would think that having experience in the business would actually make a person get it. One would think that they had been through enough, dealt with enough degrading shit, had enough people telling her how to run her shit, had the desire to show people that she is more than just some fucking hole. One would think that they would have some pity for these girls that are told how to live their lives, and how to make the most of their careers.

but then again, one can always be wrong.

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I was simply addressing skronk's post about the girls who starve themselves because they do anal scenes. I was saying that I think those girls are the ones who are stupid. Not because of their choice to do anal or not, but because they are not physically (or mentally) taking care of themselves.

I have been in this business since 1995. I DO remember the guys who treat the girls like they are anything but human individuals. Those guys can go fuck off. But then again, they are the reason that we make enough money to not have to have 9-to-5 jobs. ;) It is a delicate balance between making fans happy and keeping your sanity in this business. I wish more girls would worry about their own situation and think more about the consequences of not taking care of themselves.

I am also friends with your best friend, and if she does indeed continue to do scenes that physically hurt her, I'm definitely sad to hear that. I put her as the star of my big movie last year, and she remains one of my favorite girls in the business. I care about her alot as more than just a porn girl.

There are lots of girls in this business who do things in their scenes that they don't enjoy. I don't hire those girls. I only hire the ones that are obviously into the things that they DO choose to do. Sure, this is a job, but a person can flip burgers at McDonald's and not enjoy it, they shouldn't have to fuck in a porn scene if they're not enjoying it.

I'm sorry if you didn't understand the point of my initial posts. Surprisingly, other than our personal enjoyment of anal sex or not, we actually agree on pretty much everything else about what a good porn girl should or shouldn't do. Relax..... we're on the same side on this one.

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"the fundamental purpose of an asshole is to shit."

true. the fundamental purpose of a mouth is to eat. does that mean you wouldn't engage in cunnilingus or felatio? you can't have mouth or stomach babies either.

"You take away her free will when you make her choose to do anal. Because it's not a choice between taking it in the ass or not, its a choice between being loved or not. and any young insecure girl is going to make the obvious choice."

Hardly. Penny, you are a perfect example of a girl who doesn't do anal and who is 'loved'. You're pretty popular, and lots of people 'love' you (as much as you can love a pornstar you've never met) for what you do. Why would your friend look to a bunch of anonymous strangers as a moral guide rather than you? You're living proof of your own ideals.

Another person who is living proof of her own ideals is Tricia. Tricia, if you're evidence that the anal diet is irrelevant then I say kudos. You are fucking hot. More girls should listen to you.

I applaude both of you.

[deadly little miho]

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Edited by - Lahvac on 7/31/2006 8:11:49 AM

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No more yankee my wankee!!

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My question for you is what do you think should be done to prevent it? I don't think that this is just about us 'pathetic,' consumers becoming less pathetic.

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Edited by - alexander portnoy on 7/31/2006 10:37:06 AM

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P-H-E-N-O-M-E-N-A.

Repeat slowly.

Edited by - skronker on 7/31/2006 12:54:27 PM

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And besides, my fans are fans (hopefully) because they like who I am as a person. And being honest with assholes like you is part of my personality. If you don't like it, I hope the next time you try and fuck a girl in the ass she shits all over your stupid face.

to everybody else......I haven't smoked enough weed yet to put up with ijits like arin.

CAN'T TAKE THE HEAT? GET THE FUCK OUTTA MY KITCHEN.

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Your asshole is just a teensy-weensy part of who you are. I for one have been scintillated by the way you've responded to this topic. Whereas before my desire to see you was largely predicated on your physical attributes and your blissful laughing, giggling, whirly-bird antics, observing your thoughtful, eloquent and literate side has just floored me.

For me, anyway, a pornstar who exhibits this kind of well-roundedness is a hundred up on the one who struts onto the scene flaunting a cave to appeal to the caveman in us.

Hey, I see that you're booked to dance in upstate New York in a couple of weeks. Is this true? I would eagerly make a trip of it to see you.

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Jesus, man – I'm not kidding. If you're gonna argue a point, use at least 7th grade English. Or else, not only are people gonna think you're an asshole, they are going to know you're ill-educated. You spend 99% of your posts badgering girls about when/if/how often they'll do anal or not. You run into one who dares express what actually goes on, and it's too shocking to believe, so you go batty and start lecturing.

Edited by - skronker on 7/31/2006 2:03:01 PM

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and one word for tricia - i'm a big fan of your work as a performer and u still look beatiful (more than the majority of porn girls) but after reading some of your posts (not in this forum) you're not so different from the majority of directors these days - i remember u said once that u won't cast girls that doesn't do anal for your movies . there are many great performers super hot and super popular like sunny lane , alexis malone , cassie young and of course the lovely penny who doesn't do anal - why don't they deserves to be in your movies?

and stronker - sorry for my spelling in advance - english isn't my mother's language.

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I should note, pursuant to your comments though, that girls like Alexis MAlone and Cassie Young have done their share of Evil Angel movies, which are cast by individual directors who distribute their titles through EA. And Sunny Lane, in fact, was the scene-stealer in an all-girl scene that Tricia herself directed (I believe) in Vault of Whores , a movie that was very much Tricia's baby, so ... not to undermine your comment, but for the sake of clarity.

Edited by - skronker on 7/31/2006 2:32:23 PM

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Justin Slayer, one of my favorite directors, constantly gets hell from his fans FOR casting so many girls who DON'T do anal. So the directors get stuck in the middle too.

Rant all you want, but if you're going to call me a hyprocrite, save it for a time when I actually deserve it. :) Those times exist, but this is not one of them.

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Cute to boot. Could be a new phrase!

But this is Penny's thread - my first time here.

FBB

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You know what else gives me wood? Penny quoting Jean-Paul Sartre! I mean, I don't read much philosophy anymore (given the choice between mental and physical masturbation, I will invariably opt for the latter...okay, that was somewhat tongue-in-cheek, so if you take issue with that statement find a sense of humor, please), but he does remain my favorite philosopher based on two things: "No Exit" ("Hell is other people." indeed) and the fact that he TURNED DOWN the 1964 Nobel Prize for Literature saying that it would compromise his integrity as a writer. Now THAT is cool!

Getting back to something somewhat on-topic: if people are silly enough to base their opinions of a star on what ACTS she performs on camera instead of the QUALITY of her performances, then I say allow them to be silly. I do realize that there are some starlets who do things they don't enjoy for money or because of pressure or because they are strung out, and that is unfortunate to say the least. But I would argue that the world of porn is simply a mirror to our society-at-large. How many people compromise themselves and their beliefs for the almighty dollar or in order to "fit-in" to a perceived subset that they find attractive, alluring, interesting, exciting, fascinating, what-have-you? I'm not saying it's right, but porn doesn't have a monopoly on selling out one's beliefs for whatever reason.

In my more sublime moments (which thankfully are few and far-between...tongue-in-cheekness once again, somewhat), I question whether my "support" as a fan and consumer of porn is justifiable. The arguments for and against have been discussed on this forum before, and I have stayed mostly out of the way since it really seems to me to come down to personal choice and responsibilty. Even given the pressures bearing down upon us in any given place or situation, we all have the choice to walk away, to stand our ground or to cave in. (Yes, this perhaps is an over-simplification as reality is made up of many shades of grey, not mere black and white, but I think it probably holds true in more circumstances than not).

I myself am the first to admit my "guilt" when it comes to enjoying seeing fresh girls perform such acts as anal sex, but the truth is if she is having obvious difficulty in performing said act it quickly becomes a turn off for me. If she is enjoying herself then I am enjoying myself. I do realize there are probably quite a number of stars who are excellent actresses when it comes to such things, and I am sure I have been "fooled" many times, but who is to "blame" for that? I'd guess that that responsibilty could probably most accurately be spread out pretty evenly for all involved (from viewer/consumer, to actors/actresses, to producers/directors, to agents/scouts, etc.)

Having said all that, Penny I think it's great that you want to enjoy yourself and that you think of that first and foremost. As much as I enjoy the thought of stars thinking of what gets their fans off, your approach is bound to turn in some great footage that will naturally get your fans off. And the fact that you enjoy being watched is quite the plus! I don't believe any girl needs to do anal to be an "A-list" star or to have longevity. There are A LOT of other qualities more desirable and important in my estimation, but, alas, I am merely a horny, humble fan with very little sway over what goes on in the "real world" of porn.
Peace.
Wolf

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and stronker - you'll be the perfect teacher for the "academy of perversion"

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At the risk of angering a bunch of people, I'm going to go ahead and say that there would be very little chance that a girl who doesn't do anal would have a chance at having a large part in this movie."

I can see where this could easily be seen as me saying that I won't hire girls who don't do anal. But I was referring ONLY to the Fashionistas movies. Simply because it's such a strong S/M movie and so much of the focus of this specific movie is on exploring extreme S/M and anal toys.
As it turned out, Sunny was indeed cast in the movie, because despite the fact that she doesn't do anal, she has an amazing body and does great scenes. But due to temporary health reasons, she wasn't able to be in the production.

And loop- although I have loved to dish out punishments in my life, I find myself today (and most days) looking for people to spank and beat me. Tell you what - you come to AEE in Vegas, and I'll come up with an appropriate scenario. And in the meantime, if I've been a bad girl, you'll have to trust me that I'll have my man give me some extra hard spankings next time.

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