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RandomPrecision
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Enjoy!
8175 Posts
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Posted - Jan 21 2009 : 4:12AM
I have no idea who started it but like most things that get done to death in porn, it probably started out as something fun, wacky and original. Something like that might be fun to see in a flick once or twice just because of the sheer perversity of it but it just gets bizarre when a whole culture springs up around it and it starts turning up in every flick.
Edited by - randomprecision on 1/21/2009 4:13:37 AM
Knuckle Kids
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287 Posts
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Posted - Jan 21 2009 : 12:47PM
Well, it is a way for the performer to push themselves to new levels of nastiness and maintaining some relevance in the porn world. I mean there is only so many times that a performer can do something before we get tired of it and her and they have to reinvent themselves. Use Chelsie Rae as an example. She's done 2 Gokkuns and 1 Bukakke for a total of 150+ guys, cum fart scenes, 5 black guys up her ass, "Squirt" gangbangs, etc etc etc. How does she top that? The next level down the line, Milk enemas! Her Milk scene with jenny Hendrix was very hot, but with all that milk shooting, the viewer was almost waiting for some extras to come out.
Tului
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7 Posts
1/09
Posted - Jan 23 2009 : 4:33PM
Viewer's tastes aside, it does't necessarily have to continue progressing along the same theme to keep it fresh. I would think once you have a name you could always try things totally different than what you've done before. Typecasting happens, its up to the entertainer's to overcome it(and me and others to decide if we like it). That being said, I do realize from a business standpoint, there is a bottomline.
stinkfist
Senior Member

Subterfuge......
7401 Posts
4/07
Posted - Jan 25 2009 : 2:39PM
I am not sure about "pussy pumps" in porn..i am currently doing a review of a title and i have a feeling that i may need counselling afterwards lol,the girls in the movie are hot..but after a run in with these pussy pumps the girls pussy lips look like a cross between Mick Jagger's lips and a couple of Gammon steaks.I must admit i have been laughing at parts of the movie so i guess i will get death threats from the "pussy pump fraternity" out there when my review hits the site(if steph allows it)
As for getting turned on watching the movie,i put the title on and as the male talent squeezed this girls pussy lips the way a shopper would squash a loaf to test for freshness i looked down at my penis and we were both confused,her beef curtains hung down like a couple of pensioners riddled with arthritis..the last thing i want to do is upset Mr Snake lol.Back to the review i go and scene 2 is looming..pray for my soul.The camel toe that these girls end up with would get them 6 months in the jail if they went to there local swimming baths with these "butchers wings" hanging down for all to see the staff would have no option but to phone the local police.
Edited by - stinkfist on 1/25/2009 3:31:50 PM
 
Big Raider Fan
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Ready and willing
133 Posts
8/07
Posted - Jan 25 2009 : 11:34PM
I will steer away from reviewing a movie like that!
stinkfist
Senior Member

Subterfuge......
7401 Posts
4/07
Posted - Jan 25 2009 : 11:39PM
^^Last scene to review,i will never look at a kebab in the same light again..review will be a day or two. i am now in the pussy pump gang.
htb066
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69 Posts
11/08
Posted - Jan 26 2009 : 2:26PM
During scenes with girls that have big tits, when the guys are constantly groping her tits during the missionary position. Of course that's what I would do in real life, but when I'm watching a scene I want to see her tits bouncing and shaking while she's getting fucked, not some douchebag's hands all over them.
jettyman
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No matter what size the tits are....play with them....
732 Posts
12/08
Posted - Jan 26 2009 : 2:46PM
htbo66 Wrote,
During scenes with girls that have big tits, when the guys are constantly groping her tits during the missionary position. Of course that's what I would do in real life, but when I'm watching a scene I want to see her tits bouncing and shaking while she's getting fucked, not some douchebag's hands all over them.
During scenes with girls that have big tits, when the guys are NOT constantly groping her tits during the missionary position. Of course that's what I would do in real life, but when I'm watching a scene I want to see her tits bouncing and shaking while she's getting fucked, WITH some douchebag's hands all over them.
One mans meat another mans poison....J.
the unknown pervert
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3243 Posts
5/06
Posted - Jan 26 2009 : 6:45PM
Scenes where the women where masks or Pulp Fiction gimp outfits. It's like watching someone fuck a paper bag.
stinkfist
Senior Member

Subterfuge......
7401 Posts
4/07
Posted - Jan 26 2009 : 9:33PM
Review has been submitted. this is the final say
Well that was my first pussy pump title,i am now officially out of control the next step is sniffing glue lol.This title had it all,from the lavish settings to the badly dubbed English voice overs to the fantastic anal sex scenes and that saxaphone music lol,pussy pumping,nipple pumps,penis pumping to kebab induced lips.There was face fucking,gagging,light slapping and spit play,toys,gaping,a speculum scene,i think only one scene had vag sex.
The first 3 scenes were great the girls were hot and if you like hard anal action and you like a laugh thrown in then the old gammon flaps getting pumped up will have you shouting out wtf.This is one for all the family to sit down and enjoy,forget charades for some bonding time with the family just hold up this title and shout out "Pussy pumping anyone" and watch them eat up all there vegetables and rush to get the best seat at the television.This was like watching 3 or 4 movies in the one,give pussy pumping a try or your money back.lol
pornto
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Posted - Jan 26 2009 : 9:37PM
I've only seen this once, but it was fucking nasty. My guess is it was unintentional, but maybe film is really expensive where it was shot and so they had to use it or something. Anyway, it was a scene with three Indian (Asian) women and one guy. For the big finish, the dude gets into one girls ass and when he pulls out to pop, there is a fair amount of shit that is stuck on his piece and a little trail coming out of her ass. Gross! Before that it was pretty good and then it was really, really bad.
Another one, "homemade" some dude banging his very hot girlfriend when out of nowhere she inserts her vibrator into his ass. Damn! Another scene with great potential totally ruined.
Those are some things I simply don't understand.
joachim
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1/09
Posted - Jan 27 2009 : 12:57AM
Shemales.
I mean, what the fuck? I try not to judge anybody or what they find alluring, but what the fuck?
backdoorman
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Shake for me girl... I wanna be your backdoorman !
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Posted - Jan 27 2009 : 10:47AM
I love watching a she male do a girl. I'm so conflicted !
ntfighter
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Posted - Jan 27 2009 : 5:35PM
One other fairly common practice come to mind. Chicks holding their ass or holding one butt cheek, or the stud doing it.
This would be hot if the ass was spread to allow the stud better access. I could get with that, but since it show up in stills I guess it's done to give the camera a better view.
It's fake and porno-y.
 
rob2
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824 Posts
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Posted - Jan 28 2009 : 3:03AM
Evan Stone. What's with the warmed over Fabio thing? Give it a break man!
Unferth
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277 Posts
1/09
Posted - Jan 28 2009 : 10:25AM
Spitting. Just don't spit. Ever. I will turn the video off and delete it or throw the DVD away if anyone spits on anyone.
Royal Tee
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665 Posts
6/07
Posted - Jan 31 2009 : 3:58AM
How the Shemale genre is considered straight porn.If you like shemale movies, it cool.I have nothing against you. But I fucking hate how they are marketed as/with straight porn. I see ads for shemale porn on straight sites. You can be searching the straight side of a dvd retailers wesbite and not have to click over to the gay selection to find shemale titles. No matter how you spin it, it's definetly in the gay genre, unless it's shemale fucking a woman.
Starlets "fucking their face" with dick rather than actually giving a blowjob. I dont hate gagging(quagging is annoying) but it should never be the norm.
B/G/G scenes with the male only sexin one woman up. The other girl is just a prop.
Naughty America & Brazzers style of porn. I just dont understand how they can have such extremely sexy women and still make boring smut. Every scene seems exactly the same to me. Granted I will give Brazzers for shooting scene with little "story gimmick" a la The Super agent angle. But a lot of the scene are so by the numbers it kills it for me.
The lack of IR B/G/G scenes. Scenes with black and white women. I can't think of one series that devoted to that pairing. I mean damn near everything else has it's own series. There is like 5 Cumfart Cocktail movies but no IR B/G/G. Also the lack of IR G/G movies with topshelf talent.
Calling women in their 20s early 30s a MILF. Why do we have to put these women in that category. It's just ridiculous. She isn't a Teen/Coed, she isn't a MILF, she's a WOMAN. Pheonix Marie(Yeah,I know),Brianna Beach,Brianna Love,Aline,Dana Dearmond,Trinity Post and Devon Lee aren't MILFs to me.
Squirting- Don't piss on my face and tell me it's squirting
gazoo69
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5 Posts
1/09
Posted - Jan 31 2009 : 1:26PM
The guy that shouts "Dropping Fucking Loads!" when he cums.
Shut the fuck up, idiot!
stinkfist
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Subterfuge......
7401 Posts
4/07
Posted - Jan 31 2009 : 1:42PM
^^Who shouts that out.
ChodeMasterJ
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4/03
Posted - Jan 31 2009 : 7:53PM
I think Nick Manning. That's what Savoy told me at least.
the unknown pervert
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3243 Posts
5/06
Posted - Jan 31 2009 : 8:04PM
Yes, it is Nick Manning and yes, it is annoying as hell.
Savoy All-Star Supporter
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Sucker for Sinners
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12/06
Posted - Feb 1 2009 : 9:10AM
I've reached the point of porn saturation wherein I find Nick Manning entertaining as hell and can't fuckin' wait for his pop and that bellow/growl - "DRoooooooopppping LOADSSSS!!! ALL OVER YOUR FUCKIN' ASS!!!! YEAAAAAHHHH!!!!!"
Cracks me up every single time.
grover All-Star Supporter
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11/04
Posted - Feb 1 2009 : 9:17AM
Why is gaping popular?
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Mr Springer
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1/09
Posted - Feb 1 2009 : 5:56PM
I HATE scenes like that. If you're going to have a three way, all three participants should be interacting with each other most/all of the time.
 
10000 days
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Keep on trolling. What a bullshit! Im fucking unstoppable now ...
717 Posts
3/06
Posted - Feb 1 2009 : 6:03PM
Latest thing I don't understand: Scripted "sexy" one-liners after a camera cut. I remember Lethal Hardcore being particularly bad at abusing this. Naughty America does this shit too.
BlackSix All-Star Supporter
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9/07
Posted - Feb 3 2009 : 2:04AM
Amazingly, I've never seen this moron, he sounds like my new hero. How about Lex groaning like Chewbacca being sodomized when he cums? Use to crack me up everytime.
BlackSix All-Star Supporter
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pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world
12377 Posts
9/07
Posted - Feb 3 2009 : 2:05AM
That's why 98.3% of threesome scenes blow. No chemistry.
RandomPrecision
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Enjoy!
8175 Posts
3/06
Posted - Feb 3 2009 : 9:36AM
Because I like it.
RandomPrecision
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Enjoy!
8175 Posts
3/06
Posted - Feb 3 2009 : 9:38AM

I don't think I've ever watched his scenes much but that describtion sounds hilarious.
Miroku
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53 Posts
7/04
Posted - Feb 3 2009 : 9:45PM
Why does Brian Pumper not only continue to get work but also helm several titles for Evil Angel? What the hell, man? What the hell?
bigfoot
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Posted - Feb 4 2009 : 8:30PM
I could not agree more and IMHO, this represents the biggest area of porn that does not meet the needs of the customer.
I'm not looking for compilation DVD's as there is no rhythm, but rather titles (features, gonzo/all sex, etc.,) where the named starlet is featured 3+ times in the title (Some recommendations for bouges and others who feel like us: "The Jenny Hendrix Anal Experience"[she's in 5 of the 6 scenes], "Meggan and Hanna Love Manuel"[both Meggan Malone and Hanna Harper are in three scenes]", "Kristina Rose Dirty Girl"[she is in every scene], a recently released classic from 1984 "Too Hot To Touch"[both Kay Parker and my darling Angel each appear in three scenes] and a fantastic gonzo "Gauntlet 3"[where Faye Reagan appears in 6 consecutive scenes, followed by Crissy Moon in 5 consecutive scenes and the Maya Hills in 8 consecutive scenes - it's a three disc set and worth every penny]. Finally, two of my all time favorite DVD's - "Annette Schwarz is Slutwoman 1 & 2"[Annette is in virtually every single frame and it still is not enough!]).
On a side note, it is good to be back. This is my first posting in many, many months. Another spinal surgery followed by a nasty infection kept me on sidelines for quite some time. It's nice to be back (no pun intended) among my fellow perverts!
It's nice to know that many of your views still make me
The DMan
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Posted - Feb 4 2009 : 10:50PM

BlackSix All-Star Supporter
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pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world
12377 Posts
9/07
Posted - Feb 5 2009 : 4:37AM
BTW Darkko is working on F is for Francesca
Lange
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Make Gapes not War
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3/04
Posted - Feb 5 2009 : 7:28AM
The reason that shemale porn is in the straight genre is quite simple. Most people who buy or rent shemale movies consider themself to be straight. So if you place the movies in the gay area of a website they won't sell as much - bacause a straight guy won't be looking for movies in that area. And most gay men don't like shemale porn because they don't consider a shemale to be a real man. It's the same with lesbian porn. Lesbian porn is also in the straight area because the buyers are mostly straight men.
 
realtip
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2301 Posts
6/04
Posted - Sep 24 2009 : 10:59PM
Another thing I don't understand in porn is the whole "gloryhole" niche. I really wish they would cut this out.
Can someone please explain to me what the hell is so appealling about watching a girl have sex with a wall.
UnkwnUsr2
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443 Posts
2/05
Posted - Sep 24 2009 : 11:30PM
Several possible reasons. 1) Some people (like me) don't like seeing male bodies in their porn. 2) All of the psychological stuff associated with gloryhole (anonymity).
realtip
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Posted - Sep 24 2009 : 11:46PM
^It just looks boring and stupid to me.
Plus, I can't imagine that it's good for either the guy or the girl. One of the best things about sex is being able to actually see your partner. What good is it to be able to fuck a hot girl if you can't see her, and the only thing you can see is a wall in front of you? Since most men are visually stimulated, I can't even see how a guy can get turned-on that way. Plus, the girl can't see who she's fucking either. No passion, no emotion. Just an anonymous wall fuck. I don't get it. And it wouldn't really bother me if there weren't so much of it.
I saw one scene that starts off as a gloryhole scene, but then the guy eventually does come from the wall later in the scene. I can deal with a scene like that. But when the entire scene is just some chick fucking a wall, I just don't get it.
killbillvol69 All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Sep 25 2009 : 12:09AM
They (the fans, the directors, the performers, everyone) want pussies to be really really tight, but they want asses to be INSANELY HUGE, GAPING CAVERNOUS HOLES.
Why the discrepancy? If I want to see a tight pussy, I want to see a tight ass too.
That's some shit I don't understand.
UnkwnUsr2
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443 Posts
2/05
Posted - Sep 25 2009 : 12:17AM
We're talking about porn, not actually doing it yourself.
See above. The camera is on the side with the girl so who cares.
Well, it comes down to personal preference or whatever. I don't even enjoy watching a man and a woman have sex so we're on quite different pages here.
If I were to make a contribution to this thread, I'd probably say that I have no idea why anyone would want to watch a typical m/f scene. I just want to watch women.
BYOB_Kenobi
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8/09
Posted - Sep 25 2009 : 12:42AM
Wow, excellent thread.
My enigmas in porn

  • Why the fuck some guys compulsively rub a girl's clit during vaginal sex, even though the girl doesn't like the it (or his technique). There's a really good example of this in one of the Purzel movies with Boroka Bolls. She must have pulled his hand away at least a half dozen times!

  • Why guys stepping on a girl's head while having sex from behind.

  • Guys that slap their dicks, usually before or in between sex.

  • Guys insulting girls by making lame comments on their anatomy (i.e., big nose, wide eyes, etc. etc.).

  • Choking a girl or constricting a girls neck with some object (i.e., tie, belt) until the girl's face turns blue. Usually involves rough BJ where guy doesn't let her breath enough or using objects to make it looking like the girl is a horse.

  • Why guys off the set or behind the camera attempt be funny, especially during the middle of action.

  • Why couches have to have loud colored fabrics (i.e., yellow, orange, lime green).

  • Unfocused shots, especially during relatively non-dynamic scenes.

  • Cutting away right before the girl is about to orgasm.

  • Girls wearing clothes (panties and/or tops) way into the scene, unless the plot/premise calls for spontaneous or public sex. To me the panties always get in the way and then the scene turns into softcore porn.

  • Excessive facials. Real sex entails blowing it inside an orifice (i.e., vagina or mouth), not pulling out, jerking off for minutes on end, then missing the girl's face.

  • Pubic hair shaved in the shape of anything but a landing strip. I really don't get the "V" that I have seen a lot in Polish porn.

  • Audible directing from offset.

  • Ever increasing inclusion of anal in historically straight movie series.

  • Pussy neglect, in favor for anal.

  • Excessive breaks where guys pull out (i.e., incessantly tap a girls pussy) and cannot fuck for at least 1-2 minute periods.

  • DPP & DAP.

  • Guys making abnormally crazy faces.

  • Bystanders yelling at performers ordering them to do something (usually in frat scenes).

  • Inappropriate use of MILF, especially girls in early-to-mid 20s.

  • My current enigma: Why there is a lack of squirting and multiple orgasms in Eastern European and Russian mainstream porn compared to American counterparts


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Already mentioned that I echo (sorry for any missed)

  • Breast implants

  • Incessant moaning, but especially incessant screaming

  • Fish hooking

  • Overusing/recycling lines like "I want you to taste your pussy"

  • Focusing on guys face during his orgasm

  • ATx

  • Guys who try and fuck a chick with a soft dick

  • Milkshakes in their asses

  • Fake cocks

  • Scenes with extra guys standing around stroking it

  • Girls letting guys spit directly into their vaginas

  • Guys choking girls who are clearly not into choking

  • Guys jerking off during the money shot

  • General disrespect and abuse towards women and equating/confusing this with sex and pleasure


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Edited by - BYOB_Kenobi on 9/25/2009 12:48:16 AM
KenK777
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Wash. DC
29 Posts
12/06
Posted - Sep 25 2009 : 12:59AM
So many good points have been made. Excuse the repeats, if any.
1. Excessive talking by the guy to/over/about the girl during sex.
2. Pierced pussies. Just not a turn-on at all.
3. Does that house with the semi-circular glass doors and the brass stair rail rent by the hour?
4. Wesley Pipes.
5. Two-dicks in one hole. Instant FF.
Savoy All-Star Supporter
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Sucker for Sinners
1844 Posts
12/06
Posted - Sep 25 2009 : 1:48AM
I can only think of one guy who does that - Chris Cannon. He does it because he's about to lose it.
Jaktarn
Senior Member

4798 Posts
5/05
Posted - Sep 25 2009 : 2:38AM
Come on this routine has not been used in straight porn for ages!
Jaktarn
Senior Member

4798 Posts
5/05
Posted - Sep 25 2009 : 2:39AM
Can't disagree with you here.
Dildoslime
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177 Posts
4/09
Posted - Sep 25 2009 : 9:48AM
Quite frankly, anything I wouldn't do to/with my wife.
I find the attitude displayed toward women in today's porn discouraging.
torris
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Deep within Mila's anus
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1/00
Posted - Sep 25 2009 : 2:51PM
Maybe but don't discount the depravity factor. In the mainstream world Catherine Breillat's Romance the gloryhole/anonymous sex scene is very erotic
deputyduffy
Member

396 Posts
8/08
Posted - Sep 25 2009 : 8:45PM
What I don't understand is how a site like Pornpros stays in business.
Nice looking chicks Fucking freaks, former frat boys, and old guys.
I mean half there titles are disgrace titles. It should give you a good indication of the crap your getting. Now if you like to see women treated like shit then head over there, but if your like me, you want hot chicks that stay hot during their scenes -- stay away.
I mean, what is this crap.
http://www.pornpros.com/tour1/episode/?nats=MTI3MTY6ODc6OQ,0,0,0,0&episode=2441
Who ever thought this up needs some fucking therapy.
I honestly want to mail that chick some money...she obviously needs it and probably a hug.
BYOB_Kenobi
Senior Member

“Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards.” - Kierkegaard
2684 Posts
8/09
Posted - Sep 26 2009 : 12:05AM
This garbage invading the mainstream porn productions is very disturbing, not so much for fans who have known porn to be something different (before this), but for those teenagers and young adults still growing up, who think this is the accepted practice and SOP in the real world
realtip
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Posted - Sep 26 2009 : 12:48AM
^I saw that scene. I really liked it.
The reasons you give are exactly how the sites stay in business. They are catering to an audience that is tired and bored of the same old trite and stale porn that we see in 99% of porn. They want to be entertained by something new and different, and networks like PornPros cater to that audience. As you pointed out, where else can we see absolutely hot chicks fucking guys who look like they could be the girls' grandfathers, or hot chicks getting sprayed down with gallons of cum-like liquid? Yeah, we know it's fake. But so what? So is everything else in porn. If we can apply the suspension of disbelief to everything else we watch, then why not porn? To many, this is as entertaining as watching reality show contestants eat live insects. Personally, I'd rather watch some of those crazy funny porn scenes than a reality show.
Maybe I'm the only guy who does this. But when I watch porn, I imagine myself in the place in the male performer. I guess one could say that I live vicariously through the male performers when I watch porn. No, it's not the same as doing it yourself, but it still affects the fantasy of it. This is probably why so much porn annoys me, as I constantly find myself wanting to yell things at the screen like, "Kiss her, you idiot!," or "Play with and suck on her tits, dumbass!," or "Stick it in Aurora Jolie's pussy already! This only-anal gimmick has really gotten old!" You know, things like that.
So, when watching a gloryhole scene (and I don't watch them), it ruins the fantasy because, by imagining myself in the place of the guy, I can only imagine what it must be like to be able to see nothing except a wall in front of you while an incredibly hot girl is on the other side of it. The whole time I'm thinking to myself, "Why doesn't this idiot come from behind the wall already?! Wouldn't it be better if he can actually see the girl?" I think that way because that's what I would do. And this is why I find it a ridiculous genre.
I like all this stuff, but each for a different reason. Most of it is just added for entertainment value, and to appeal to viewers who want to see something different aside from the same old everyday "seen one, seen it all" type of stuff. If porn didn't have any of this, it would be so much more boring, and not as many people would bother watching it.
I thought most husbands watched porn to see stuff that they wouldn't/couldn't do with their wives.
Edited by - realtip on 9/26/2009 12:54:56 AM
BYOB_Kenobi
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8/09
Posted - Sep 26 2009 : 2:17AM
I disagree, although I am all for being creative and I especially agree that 99% of mainstream porn is stale and boring, I don't equate an alternative to many of the practices in question, especially in mainstream porn. Personally, I think the porn industry still over-relies and embraces the extreme/shock business model, where the crazier acts the better. After reading ADT for a little bit, I am glad to see there are others who are bored with mainstream porn, want better porn (quality, creative, non-boring, etc. etc.), but don't think the ever increasing inclusion of extreme/shock porn in mainstream is the answer. I know this sounds counter-intuitive, but extreme/shock can be overdone, because the more it is overused/relied on, the more the products get away from the nature of the act and turns into a pissing contests. Fallout is inevitable as this model is used more and more in mainstream.
I understand there is demand for this stuff and the resulting associated lines/series that cater to this, but there has been a rapid influx of this stuff in mainstream. For example, how many people here have complained about guys frequently choking girls in traditionally mainstream stuff or doing other degrading stuff. Furthermore, the 'novelty factor' is losing it's appeal as chocking, forced gagging, etc. etc. has become commonplace in a lot of mainstream porn.
If this stuff is the alternative/solution to creating non-boring porn, then I give up and I will strictly move to amateur and pro-am stuff, as we are setting the bar really low and I know we/America is better than this.
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