I suppose in porn they kind of need guys who don't ejaculate easily...but there's definitely irony in the fact that these guys are having sex with blazing hot women yet need to fist themselves off to climax. Anyway, back to the hating. What's with the guys (happens a lot in bukkake-type scenes) who go through all the motions of having ejaculated - squeezing their cock, thrusting their hips forward, doing that 'flick' of the fingers, as if to expel droplets of cum - yet there's no visible sign of any jizz? WTF? You're left thinking "Did he just cum? I didn't see anything..."
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Posted - Jan 2 2015 : 2:32PM
Quantitybased questions in every BTS signed by the very Mr John so be it Strong during the season 2007 and 2008 by Red Light District. Nevertheless I will never lose faith so I pull out another and hope for the best.
European girls make guys come. American girls wait for the guys to come... And guess what? It is not the girls fault. Circumcision... Anyone? Edited by - dutchgangbangboys on 1/4/2015 2:29:50 PM
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Posted - Jan 7 2015 : 2:14AM
^ ^ LOL at the classic Seinfeld clip. As for this... This is such a stupid argument from the uncircumcised...as a typical circumcised American male, I've never once wished I was more sensitive down there. I think the facts that the American industry uses the same fuckin' guys way too much and the process of actually filming a gonzo scene can be draining to a guy's stamina (constantly starting and cutting filming to change positions, move the camera, etc.) are the main reasons why often times these guys have a hard time getting off. It seems like the average 30-45 minute gonzo scene can turn into a multi-hour project, and it'd only make matters worse for the guy if he were shooting more than one scene in a day. Edited by - Mass Facialties on 1/7/2015 2:15:01 AM
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these are some things i hate in the porn business. 1. racism in porn - why should it matter what color your co-workers color of skin is??? it's all the same really. i'd have sex with anybody regardless of skin color. you can't help what color of skin you have. you were born with it, so why should you be punished for it??? a dick is a dick and a pussy is a pussy. 2. porn parodies - this is making the porn business look uncreative in the aspect of you have to take famous tv shows and movies and turn them into a erotic movie, which for the most part, makes me blush and look the other way. i don't want to see cliff clavin have sex in a porn parody, nor do i want to see a m*a*s*h porn parody. i like something original and set on the premise of why we are watching, which is for the love of sex. i want evan stone to be evan stone, not a character. i want jordan ash to be jordan ash, not a character. a man or a woman dressing up as a cop and playing that role is one thing, but the bad acting and terrible laugh tracks just turn me off. i stick to the gonzo and straight up sex. 3.porn stars who ask people for stuff - ladies, i love ya, i really do. i respect your work and if it's to my liking, i might even buy the DVD with the little money i make. but don't ask me to buy you a new ipod on twitter in exchange for a autographed picture of your ass or anything like that. to me, that's a major turnoff. i would'nt ask anything of you other than a couple of minutes of your time and a opportunity to tell you thank you for entertaining perverts like me. i would never run into sara jay and say "hey, sara, can i bum $10 off of you, i'll pay you back." that would be rude. 4.porn in which the males are the aggressors - i can't stand when a guy in a scene propositions a woman (if you suck me, i'll fix your car) or treats the woman as if she was a mere sex object. women are to be treated as equals. it is my personal opinion as a man that a woman should be worshiped sexually and a woman's pleasure should be the man's number one objective, as it is easier for a man to get off than it is a woman. no spiting, slapping, pulling her hair, choking her, urinating or defecating on her. no rimming either as i see it as degrading to women. i like a good hardcore fuck as much as anything, but as long as she's being treated as a equal and she is being pleasured.
^Your third point is very true. This has actually turned me off for some performers. They just take advantage of fans who simply aren't so bright.
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Posted - Jan 7 2015 : 4:00PM
just thought of couple of more things i forgot in my first post. 5. non-rhythmic dps - i can't stand it when i watch a woman get dped and one guy is doing all the work. i want to see both dicks going in and out of her in a good rhythm. what makes it even better is when she's geting off on her being dped and encouraging them to please her dually. just don't oversell it like ava devine does (no offense ava.) 6. arrogant male performers - by watching porn, you by definition are a voyeur. men live vicariously through these lucky studs who have the privledge of having sex with some of the most beautiful women in the world (and the kicker is they get PAID for it.) however, what burns my biscuits is the aura of some male performers who feel like they must rub your face in the fact that they were gifted, both in the looks and in the package department. being a male performer does'nt give you the right to treat people like myself as less than or inferior. besides, if i was going to have a threesome with another guy, i don't want a guy who's going to make me feel like the robin to his batman or the tonto to his lone ranger. i want a guy who's going to treat me as a equal and not damage my ego or self-confidence. a guy who might be better looking than me or more well endowed than me, but does'nt have to point it out to build his own self-confidence. after all, it's all about having fun.
^&^^^ You are so right about pretty much everything you wrote. The racism in porn thing is not even worth talking about at this point because it's alalways gonna be around. Im also really not a fan of girls that beg for stiff over twitter. I totally agree with the DP thing.
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Posted - Jan 9 2015 : 2:31AM
In response to the criticism of these "wish lists" that girls have in order to receive gifts from random fans: I don't get it, these girls aren't taking money out of your wallets, so why are you so annoyed by them asking for gifts that many fans are willing to spoil them with? If the girls can do this, more power to 'em!
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Posted - Jan 9 2015 : 3:19AM
speaking for myself, i'm old-fashioned and i believe if you want something, you go out and you EARN it. these people are in a multi-billion dollar industry, they make more doing one scene than many of us make in one month. plus, some of these girls dance and some of these girls make money off of apperances. they can afford to go out and buy a iphone or a ipod or a tablet or something else without imposing on their fans. the only thing they should ever ask out of their fans is their support. would you please purchase my newest film??? would you come see me dance at a club in your town??? would you come out to this expo or personal apperance and give me a holla??? and be gracious, say "thanks to all of my wonderful fans who have supported me." instead of "buy me this and i'll send you a autographed picture of my tits". that's so rude. i'd like to think that this is just this generation of women in this business consittering i think women today are materialistic and only want a man for his looks and his money, rather than for what he brings to the table on a emotional level.
^ The sad thing is, most so called "fans" make absolutely no effort to support performers in the ways you described. Tubesites have become the dominant way of consuming porn and performers get squat from all of that. Most "fans" these day are free-loaders. If these girls can get a little something extra from those guys, more power to them.
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Posted - Jan 9 2015 : 4:10AM
Well, I could argue that these girls do earn these gifts. It's only because of what their willing to do for their adoring fans, perform in porn, that they're able to ask for and receive these gifts. They're not gettin' spoiled with gifts simply because they're good lookin'...they're getting gifts because they're good lookin' AND they're willing to fuck in front of a camera for our viewing pleasure.I think you are wildly overestimating the earning potential of the average pornstar. And asking for gifts is not imposing on their fans when the girls do it on their own, personal Twitter pages.What the hell's so rude about that? Again, they're just accepting gifts that fan's are willing to give them. Not only that, but the girls are actually giving them something in return, nevermind how insignificant you might think a signed photo is.LOL, so women only desiring men for money and/or looks is just somethin' that started in this new millenium? In any case, we're talking about adult performers and the fans (mopes) that are likely to never actually meet in person. To rip off the popular saying "Don't hate the playa, hate the game," I'd say to you: Don't hate the girls, hate the game! Edited by - Mass Facialties on 1/9/2015 4:54:44 AM Edited by - Mass Facialties on 1/9/2015 11:24:20 PM
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Posted - Jan 9 2015 : 5:24AM
your entitled to your opinion, i'm entitled to mine. i was raised by my mother and grandmother to say please, thank you and your welcome and be thankful for people who help you. i was also raised not to ask for anything, but to earn it. everything i have right now i've earned which is'nt much, but it's something. i'm wise with my money, i save the little money i make, i'm notoriously frugal and take care of my needs rather than my wants. if you want to blast me for being old fashioned, more power to you. but i tend to like women who are nice, caring, don't ask too much of people and is gracious and slighty humble. it's MY opinion that if a woman asks for stuff, i will not support her in any way. if you or anybody else wants to buy her a ipod, more power to you, but i can't even afford a ipod for myself, so what spend what little money i make on somebody i don't know and if a woman wants me to buy things of that magnitude, you might want to get to know me first. i'll support her by buying her movies (if i like them enough). but where i live, i'm not driving thousands of miles to vegas or LA or dallas just to spend 5 minutes with somebody i don't know and risk my chances of being disappointed of who they are as people. maybe if they came to my neck of the woods here in new mexico, i might save up enough money to make the trip. but don't hold your breath. you call me a freeloader, but in a way, would'nt taking gifts from financially disadvantaged people in a economic downturn fit the description of freeloader??? the definition of freeloader is "to take advantage of the charity, generosity, or hospitality of others." AKA buying somebody a iphone that you don't know. as far as watching free porn goes, if they want to combat that, they should stop making DVDs and make everything straight to internet and charge a subcription fee to watch exclusive content. plus, don't let people download it, they can pay to watch it on the site only, therefor it's not pirated and put on a tube site. it would also help if some of the performers and producers stoped mailing it in and started making more creative porn. let's see less parodies and more straight up sex with no gimmicks. for example, krissy lynn's scene with james deen and jordan ash in ass worship 13 was worth paying for because it's straight up sex, no chessy gimmicks and i love it when krissy's being dped and she says "i'm in heaven." that's the kind of enthusiasm i'm looking for from performers. i also liked kelly devine's scene because she is a awesome performer and you can tell she brings it when the camera's on, but i did'nt care for the rest of the DVD. i'll only buy a DVD if it's jam packed with good sex, which is where the tube sites come in, i can watch the scenes and if i like it, i'll go out and buy the DVD. but why buy a DVD when you only like one or two scenes on it??? it's wasted money and when your in the financial position i'm in, you can't afford to waste one cent. hey, my theme song is low budget by the kinks, LOL. i'm a cut price person in a low budget land.
I agree with you bluewomble85 and I'm not even old fashioned and I'm pretty young. The person you're responding to is likely a modern feminazi who will condone anything. These stars don't need people to buy their materials for them and the ones that do are most likely on an emotionally unstable, obsessed type of phase and I'm sure the girls are aware of this. So they are in a sense taking advantage of them and also being greedy.
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Posted - Jan 9 2015 : 9:40AM
thank you 2bollocks. your opinion on this issue is greatly appreciated. i can't speak for other countries, but here in america, i think that we have raised women to believe than the more money they earn and they more power they have, the more woman they are. as for the feminazi comment, i'm not into taking sides on gender. i think it's a trick society has played on all of us to make us stupidly argue over who is the fairer sex. women are equal to men in everyway the way i see it. the big difference from what i notice about men and women are men are ego driven people whereas women are emotional driven people. besides, i still believe it's a bigger issue in society whereas people today don't want to work for anything anymore. in any walk of life, everybody wants the glory and forget about the hard work it takes to achieve the glory.
I can understand your way of thinking, but consider this: The wishlist/request thing is a form of earning. They have to do a LOT of work in order to cultivate a fan base from which a gift request might be granted. Probably the majority of people think like you, with indifference or contempt toward the very idea of wishlists, so it's a tall order for the performer to work that kind of magic. I don't think they are taking advantage of broke and helpless fans. I think they are creating an avenue for obsessed and financially capable fans to spend their extra money.
Just to add my thoughts to the above debate, I'd like to mention that a lot of Score Group models give their stuff away (bras, panties, autographed mags, DVDs etc) in regular monthly draws. A while back I won Jenna Valentine's signed bra, which I have hung in the back of my wardrobe. Didn't cost me a dime. Just saying. To get back to the topic of the thread, though: I hate two-girl scenes where one girl seems criminally under-utilised. One chick seems to be getting all the attention while the other's presence is almost incidental. Two-girl scenes are my favourite and this always pisses me off. I like to see them get an equal share of the cock (and cum).
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Posted - Jan 10 2015 : 2:33AM
i think your last point is double talk, a financially capable obsessed fan spending money on a porn starlet would be, in a way, being taken advantage of. if your obsessed, your in a fragile mental state. thus you are complusive and more able to do things that is not wise or not logicial. the bottom line is not just in porn, but in society in general, people should earn things. for example, let's say all the american automotive comapnies went back to human assembly lines, just because john doe helped build the car you might be driving, does he deserve a special gift from you because of that fact??? no, because that's his job, he's being paid for it (although it might not be much) and he should do his job and do it well. if your at a resturant and you ate a great meal, does the chef and the waitress deserve a ipod because of it??? no, because that's there job they are being compensated for (once again, might not be much) and they should take pride in their work. porn is some ways is a thankless job, it's blue collar in it's very essance, more so than any other job because at least in the two previous occupation i mentioned, those occupations are respected work in general society. porn is hard work consittering your body is your product, you have to keep both body and mind healthy, you have to travel sometimes, you are away from loved ones (maybe forever if they cannot take the stigma of a loved one being in the business), you lose friends over it and have to work well with others, even if you don't like said person. you have a image you have to mantain and you are protraying a sex craved maniac even though when you get home, you might not want to be that person. maybe you want to spend time with your lover (which is hard consittering some have to live a double life and not tell who they are dating they are in the business for fear of them rejecting them), maybe you want to spend time with your children (who does'nt understand what mommy and/or daddy does for a living and by the time they do, in their adolescence they are ostracized from society because of the occupation their parents do to put food on the table). on the camera, we see men and women having fun and puting a image to convey that the sex they are having is fun (and in some cases, it is, the camera don't lie when great sex is being filmed), but people forget about the human aspect of them as people. porn is blue collar and blue collar includes not taking hand outs from people, not asking any quarter from anyone and earning your pay and taking pride in your profession, even if your sick to death of it.
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Posted - Jan 10 2015 : 2:43AM
oh noodles, i know what you mean. one scene come to mind, ava devine, maia ginger and lee stone in leave it to cleavage. ava hogged so much of the camera in that scene even though maia was having the better sex in my eyes and ava took away from the scene from her constant overacting and caterwauling, plus, the part where maia and lee are fucking in the standing position was so hot, it was awesome camera work, i was literally begging lee to creampie her right then and their. i have never scene a maia ginger scene where the sex was'nt great. she is a awesome worker. i like some of ava's scenes, but i think she's guilty of overacting IMHO.
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Posted - Jan 10 2015 : 6:27AM
I'm not sure what it's a true reflection of, but I find it immensely frustrating when I put on a scene from a performer I know drives me crazy and I want to get off to, and I can see how hot she is, I can see how great it looks visually an aesthetically, I can see that it should be working wonders...and yet nothing. Scenes like this baffle me and I still have no idea why, in the face of all the obvious elements that should work collectively to get me off, that it's just not exciting. A porn paradox, if you will.
@ bluewomble: Your first post 7 Jan, paras 1 & 3. Hear, hear! Why can't we see more porn where the actors perform as though there's no camera but the mic is close enough to pick up the squishly vaginal sounds, a bit like Abby Winters? Edited by - Cucumber100 on 1/10/2015 7:17:55 AM Edited by - Cucumber100 on 1/10/2015 7:18:55 AM
When a scene cheats me out of a cumshot - what is that all about? Doesn't happen often, admittedly, but sometimes a scene will fade out and the guy never even came. Was his pop so weak it wasn't worthy of being used? I've seen enough pathetic, dribbling cumshots in my time to make that hard to believe - but what other explanation could there be? Watched today (was in the mood for some BBW action). Was enjoying the first scene with the two cover girls but - you guessed it - no cumshot.
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Posted - Jan 21 2015 : 1:33PM
^ I HATE that you decided to post that box cover image.
Mass, here's something to cleanse your palette: I agree with N00dlesDaddy though, scenes without cumshots are the worst. Sometimes they try to pass off the lack of a cumshot by showing the guy, "cumming down the girl's throat." Uh-huh.
Ha ha. Just to make it abundantly clear, BBWs are but one of many niches that I enjoy. I was so wound up about the lack of a cumshot in that scene, though, that I wanted to name and shame this title.
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Posted - Jan 21 2015 : 2:40PM
Thanks for that "sight for sore eyes."
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Posted - Jan 21 2015 : 4:18PM
seems like we go to extremes here, one person likes BBWs and one person likes women with a more natural look. BBW's are not my thing as i have a weight limit of 180lbs or lower and i tend to trend between women build like kelly devine or kelly starr and asian women like asia or the asian lucy lee. but no cumshot is annoying as hell. that's what you call a buzzkill.
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Posted - Jan 21 2015 : 6:19PM
i don't know if i covered this in a previous post, but i hate stupid storylines in a porn movie. for example, i was bothered by privas scene in a sperm load a day 2, which now i look back and laugh because i was under alot of stress at the time. but the storyline sucks, think about it, oliver sanchez, her husband, is laying on the bed reading the paper, then priva comes out of the bathroom and models lingerie for her man, then after some sexy modeling, she unbuckles his belt and whips it out and goes to town. then she starts to cramp, so like any caring husband, he asks what's wrong and offers to go get her some milk, which he does from the kitchen, he then calls the doctor and they say they will arrive in 15-20 minutes. so then they arrive with her on the couch and "dr." steve holmes tells her there is two ways they can handle her cramp, through medication or a more "natural" method. what so happens that natural method is stuffing her pussy and ass with cock which throughout her double dicking her "cramp" is slowing feeling better until she swallows all of there loads. i know this is porn, where maybe suspending disbelieve is part of the fantasy (because there are many times i've been to a doctor's office and i wish the good looking nurse would come into the room i'm waiting in and would lock the door and screw me senseless). i know they might not have a crack staff to write this stuff, but please, would it be too much to ask for a little teeny bit of legitimacy here??? i understand the meaning of the title of the DVD, but would'nt it have been better to go with the "hey honey, i got you a birthday present downstairs" gimmick and it's three big cocks waiting for her on the couch for her to play with. maybe logic has no place in the porn business or maybe i'm just a old grouchy man who gets frustrated with the lack of logic in some porn scenes.
I love these cheesy 'can only happen in porn' scenes.
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Posted - Jan 22 2015 : 10:27AM
and more power to you. the scene was'nt that bad. at least it showed that she was the aggressor of the sex and she was'nt being manhandled like my preconceived notion was before i saw the scene. but i'm just a logical guy, i like straight up sex or a sex party where everybody is having a good time (sober i might add) or a scene where the woman is the aggressor like randi storm was in white trash whore 9 where she initiated those sexy black studs in pounding every one of her holes the way SHE wanted. plus, i'm not like most guys, you can show me a pair of tits all you want, that's all well and good. but i like to know the mind behind those tits because if it's somebody i like as a person, then i can get more into the scene whereas if it's somebody i don't like or don't relate to that well, it's just boring to me. for a example, i'm not much for bree olson because i found this interview when she started out that said "i like it when a man rapes me and makes me has his baby" and that totally turned me off from her. even if it was a joke, that to me is not funny. just like toliet humor is not funny to me. it's rude. whereas violet marcell wrote on her twitter page "it's weird how they call it a flash mob and not a asshole dance party" and i laughed my ass off. she's won me over as a person, so i love her scenes more. i hate twitter by the way because i'm proud to be long winded because i have a point to make.
I agree, it is oddly specific. Yet I'm racking my brain trying to think of a long-haired male performer I think is good. Exhibit A: EDIT: Duh, now that I've thought about it I realize Mark Ashley had longer hair in a lot of his scenes. So long hair is not a deal-breaker for me I guess. I do draw the line at annoying catchphrases though, so Manning is still on my shit list. Edited by - Mister Fahrenheit on 2/2/2015 3:57:08 AM
Um, why is it 'odd'? I just find long hair on male performers cringeworthy, is all. Collar-length is okay, I suppose. It's the ones with it halfway down their back I have a problem with. There's one guy - don't know who he is, he's probably (thankfully) no longer active - who always had it tied back in a ponytail that reached to his coccyx. Ugh. I guess my beef is just an extension of the more general moan of "why must they show males at all from the waist up"?
Porn from 5+ years ago that boasted it was "Shot in 1080p HD" but has never been available in anything greater than 480p dvd. The new version of this is "Shot in 4K" with no option to acquire the material in anything greater than 1080p. I really don't care if it was filmed in 4K if it's not being released in 4K. It's like boasting about a film being shot in 70mm but only releasing 35mm prints to theaters.
I don't know his name but there was a guy in the 90's that seemed to be in almost every porno I saw, that had a long ponytail. He always seemed more concerned about his hair than the woman he was fucking. I would always fast forward past his scenes.
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Posted - Feb 2 2015 : 11:35PM
Sorry, but I just find it odd that the facial apperance, or in this case a guy's hair, bothers you so much when viewing porn. Call me crazy, but other than the guy's "equipment" ("Is he big enough for porn? Is he hard? Is he circumcised?"), nothin' about the male talent makes a difference for me in viewing porn.
^ I don't care how ugly a guy is, in fact I actually prefer that. But the hair thing I just find distracting. Thankfully, it's a small minority & I don't watch their scenes. Hey, I'm an irrational moaner, so sue me.
I hate how a lot of pornstars dont take care of themselves during the course of their career and just totally let their looks go - mostly by losing a lot of weight. Probably drugs etc. May have something to do with the culture. Pornstars need to take care of themselves more. If that means doing less scenes then so be it. Luckily there are several who do seem to take care of themselves.
^^^^ Yep, too much plastic surgery and heavy makeup. Plastic surgery is necessary in some cases. A good example would be Ava Addams getting an enhancement after she had a baby. That made sense only because her breasts looked no where near as big as they did when she first started. And her boob job was one of the best I have ever seen. But in a lot of cases its not necessary. A good rule of thumb is that if you are under age 40 and enough guys think you are hot that you are able to run your own solo paysite, you probably dont need plastic surgery on your face. Also, take a look at Anissa Kate. She looks amazing with almost no makeup, but she looks horrid when a heavy amount of makeup is applied.
^ Yeah, a porn scene is only exciting if you don't know whether there will be a cumshot at the end. Just like you don't know whether the good guy will win the final showdown or the bad guy. It's always so unclear... that's what makes it so unpredictable!
^ Ha ha. Of course I know there's gonna be a cumshot (well, 99 times out of a hundred) - I'd just rather see that in the actual movie, not the trailer. It's like seeing Bruce Willis pop the climactic cap in the bad guy's ass in the trailer. Plus, cumshots are always the same, always different. It's not solely about the 'destination' for me but I'd quickly go off watching porn if they were absent. And I don't think I'd be alone in that. Edited by - N00dlesDaddy on 2/10/2015 4:40:19 AM
When the guy tries to hide the fact that he's only half-hard by holding on to the base of his cock while fucking. This is painful to watch during anal scenes. The thing resembles a concertina going in & out. In fact, I like to mute the TV sound and put on some concertina music.
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Posted - Mar 27 2015 : 6:07AM
Two trends annoy me these days. 1. Tattoos Almost every new girl is plastered with huge tattoos. Doesn't look sexy and feminine IMO. 2. Squirting Maybe it's just me but not sexy at all. What's next? Farting and booger eating?
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