^^^I agree. I will add choking (fingers deep in mouth or pressure around throat), fish-hooking, spitting, degrading talk, throat fucking, hair pulling, and head locks to the list. Edited by - fanofman on 6/5/2016 2:16:52 PM
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Posted - Jun 5 2016 : 2:21PM
A nasty, messy bj with throat fucking is good on occasion, Charley Chase was the best at that, but puking is a whole other story. No idea why Adriano will include that in his scenes with no warning or labeling.
Love all of those except fingers in mouth, fish hooking, WTF is up with THAT??!!! Spitting (MORE WTF??) & head locks, don't mind foot stepping on the head, what can i say?? I like whore-ish sumbmissive girls, also like when the guy has the girl's arms behind her & hooks his arm through them or holds them, hardcore fan here, not too into sensual scenes that lean towards "love making". I enjoy intense, fast paced FUCKING & pounding (think Isis Taylor) Edited by - Ksmooth31 on 6/5/2016 2:26:32 PM
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Posted - Jun 5 2016 : 2:40PM
She was awesome. Isis was another favourite of mine as well, particularly her scenes with Manuel.
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Posted - Jun 5 2016 : 3:00PM
Choking is the winner trick to really drag me down. I don't care if it's Manuel Ferrara, or the girl approves it. If I was the ghost of Elvis motherfucking Presley I'd slip my dick and go get the magnum and boom shoot the goddamn TV each and every time I observe it.
I forgot to add water play. I saw a scene recently with Angela White and Manuel Ferrara that was 90 minutes of some of the most intense sex two people could have. It was ruined in the last minutes because Manuel decided she needed to get wet by shoving her head under a faucet and in a toilet to include flushing it. What was the purpose of doing that? It killed the entire scene for me.
To each their own i guess, majority of women i've been with love that shit
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Posted - Jun 5 2016 : 3:26PM
I don't care if all of the people someone's been with are crazy through and through, choking is a dealbreaker and I don't watch porn to cry for some Taxi Driver or some Dirty motherfucking Harry or Clarence Worley to show up next.
I'm not a hundred per-cent sure about the toilet stuff - but I've got a bit of a thing for bathroom sex, so the rest of it was quite hot. And Angela White is so monumentally sexy that I can go along with almost anything.
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Posted - Jun 6 2016 : 5:37PM
When a girl says "Cum on my face" "Cum in my mouth" or "I love swallowing cum" or something along those lines, but when in comes time for the popshot, the girl's mouth is almost hermetically sealed and she's grimacing at the impending delivery.
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Posted - Jun 6 2016 : 5:47PM
Because guys will buy them stuff and give them money. It makes them feel like they have a connection with their fave. Go to the conventions sometime and you'll see fans bringing presents to their favorite performers. The girls will ooh and aah for a minute in the fan's presence, the fan feels special, and at the end of the day the gifts get thrown in the trash. No different that women who bring flowers or presents to a concert or show to give to their favorite performer. The stuff gets tossed in the trash.
Wish lists are not "begging". If some people are going to buy you stuff, why not? Their whole career is to have people open their wallets in exchange for some form of pleasure (porn scene, dancing, escorting, etc). I am sure if 10 women emailed you saying they wanted to buy you a new phone, you would take it.... Porn performers get guys asking to buy them stuff and that is how wishlists came so popular.
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Posted - Jun 6 2016 : 10:03PM
Things on wishlists aren't going to be brought to the shows, and, its been my personal experience that the performers don't take the stuff. Depending on the amount of stuff, 1 of 3 things happen; trash, shelter, or it gets taken home by employees of the venue. I myself, have numerous t shirts for various sports teams that fans have brought to give to performers because they heard they liked the Lakers or other teams.
I hate scenes where the guy steps on the girls head while fucking her. I thought this mostly faded out years ago, but lately I have seen it turning up quite a bit, and in regular scenes that aren't even otherwise rough. I just don't get the appeal.
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Posted - Jun 8 2016 : 5:40PM
I also hate it when someone will get on the forum and ask on a thread to a director or video company and suggest a girl with a real alt. non mainstream look and say how they should hire her and how hot she is and Im like, she'd ruin the video for me
I know some people love this, but I cannot stand incessant cooing, oohing, and ahhing. Like the girl gets touched on the arm, and she moans with pleasure. Kissed on the neck, ahh. Slapped on the butt, ooh. It's pretty much establishing that everything in the scene is bullshit. Even if all porn is mostly bullshit, at least sell the fantasy better
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Posted - Jun 8 2016 : 9:43PM
Problem is, if you go the opposite way (like say Legal POrno) and don't have fake noises.. you get people complaining the "girls aren't into it" or are "being forced or exploited"... can't win. THe girls who go "oh god" 900 times in a scene or "ya ya ya ya ya".... drive me nuts. To be honest, some of my favorite US based women do this and I have to watch their scenes on mute.....
I think there's a middle ground between LP dead inside and the over the top moaning. I know some of this is direction and not on the performer. Mason seems to direct the girls to start with the "oh my god oh my god" right from the jump. When it works, it is really works, at least
I remember reading an interview with someone (maybe Tristan Taormino?) who was directing a porn movie intended to be authentic--just showing "real sex." The director expressed their frustration and bewilderment over how difficult the performers found it. They simply couldn't break free from what they had been taught and trained to do scene after scene, which is the crying out and excessive noise from start to finish.
Completely disagree, in fact I think Valentina Nappi has improved her looks the most with plastic surgery. They did a great job and she's so much better looking now.
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Posted - Jun 9 2016 : 12:13PM
I watch a lot of Legal Porno and most of my favorites are not "dead inside". This is just a bias from people who are used to seeing the girls in US porn screaming and yelling and going on and on with loud moans at the mere touch of a finger on their shoulder. I can engage in the hardest sex, and I am still relatively quiet. I don't scream, yell, talk much, etc... believe me, I am not dead inside. There are many different ways people express themselves sexually. The US porn scene has almost dogma that the performers have to be really noisy in order to give the impression they are "enjoying themselves". Sometimes just a nice smile and beads of sweat are all someone has and they are still having a good time. This dogma has got porn fans to think that the girls who make all the noise are "authentic", and quiet ones are "not into it"... when really, it is likely moreso the other way around at times. The fact of the matter is, some scenes a porn girl is enjoying it ,and sometime she is not. Either way, she has to perform and so we can't just assume noise is an indicator of one way or the other. Edited by - Canadian_Cindy on 6/9/2016 12:17:09 PM
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Posted - Jun 9 2016 : 1:11PM
I would agree that too much US porn is over the top but then too much Europorn is completely cold, no smiling, talking and I can't even think of a scene featuring laughter once the sex kicks in.
I think one reason excessive moaning/screaming is so common is that porn is an audio/visual medium. It's impossible to convey the actual tactile pleasure of sex so they pull out all the stops to sell the viewer on the fact that people are enjoying themselves. Not to mention there is fantasy aspect to it as well. A lot of guys (and let's be real, most mainstream porn is made with guys in mind) don't want to just see a depiction of normal sex. They want to see one where the male performer (their stand-in) is driving the woman wild with their fucking. Some performers know how to make that look real, a lot unfortunately don't. Edited by - Mister Fahrenheit on 6/9/2016 1:17:07 PM
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Posted - Jun 9 2016 : 1:25PM
One great way to address that is simply dirty talk. More talking in scenes would be welcome, makes the scene feel more real imo. The RAW scene between Manuel and Liza Del Sierra where they talk to each other in French and a bit of English is a great example. Gianna also was very good about dirty talking in her scenes. I realize that could be harder in Europorn since not everyone can understand each other and its made for several markets. Edited by - BlackSix on 6/9/2016 1:26:31 PM
^ Exactly. And also just sexy communication. I really enjoy some so-called "sex tapes" because that's sadly one of the only genres where people hang out, fool around, and chat all in a sexy context.
More high-quality dirty talk is something I would welcome. However, the same issues that crop up with fake moaning also appear with fake dirty talk. Some performers can make it look effortless, for many more it can come off as repetitive and forced.
I don't want to bog things down with LP stuff. I see your point on Euro vs US porn. Some of Woodman's scenes have girls with the same look. As far as dirty talk, it is just as bad as the moaning, if not worse, since so few do it well. Most just narrate the action like it is porn for the blind
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Posted - Jun 9 2016 : 4:25PM
I agree with you, for me good dirty talk is one of the keys to a good scene. Imo Ashley Adams has the best dirty talk and is extremely energetic in her scenes. I wish more performers would have her energy. She makes it look effortless, some you can tell are forcing it. New comer, Lana Rhoades is pretty good so far with her dirty talk, I wish she would incorporate it a bit more. In two of her scenes she does and in her others it's a sporadic. I don't like when a girl just moans and says oh yeah for an entire scene, I'll turn it off if that happens.
I completely agree with you on that.And pretty fake Edited by - epistimonas on 6/10/2016 8:16:49 AM
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Posted - Jun 10 2016 : 10:19AM
Don't "perform", be yourself girls. That is so much hotter, because, as has been mentioned, fake over the top performances suck. And for fucks sake, ignore the camera. Avoid the balloon factory, waxing, Woodman and Let's Try Anal.
^^^ Honestly Flac, I imagine most of the girls you think are only "being themselves" are actually just really talented performers. If you're a good performer, you make what your doing look effortless and natural.
^ This. I think it's a mistake to obscure the labor of being a performer just because the performer does it so expertly well to the point of making it seem effortless. That's just fantastic porn performance. Edited by - Gore Gore Girl on 6/10/2016 12:50:53 PM
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Posted - Jun 10 2016 : 12:54PM
^^ ^ No question, I mean the over emoting bullshit.
^ A person can be really enjoying it while at the same time giving a heightened representation of what they're feeling. The two aren't mutually exclusive. Edited by - Mister Fahrenheit on 6/11/2016 12:04:26 AM
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Posted - Jun 11 2016 : 1:56AM
One that's come to my mind after watching some recent scenes is: Girls rubbing their pussy/clit as their being fucked. I just hate it that their hand(s) get in the way of the action. Unfortunately, it seems to be becoming "standard operating procedure" for a lot of girls nowadays.
Posted - Jun 5 2016 : 2:14PM
