It's called being "progressive". I'm not blaming liberals or progressive beliefs, but once Obama took office and a progressive cultural wave came over the country after the somewhat oppressive Bush Apple Pie and Baseball years, there was a boom in faked incest porn coming out of FL - some small studios focus on and specialize in that - and the bigger studios started to get in on it a few years ago through the MILF/step-son and Step-Dad/step-daughter genres, before moving directly to step-siblings. This also came with a big surge in BDSM/dominance/rape/kink porn, as well. Studios like Kelly Madison Media won acclaim for making incest/bdsm/dominance/kink/rape vids over the past few years and it's the norm now. Not my cup of tea at all, but this is an industry that "follows the money", and that's where the money seems to be.
pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07
Posted - Jan 30 2017 : 2:18AM
^ Rough sex videos are very much the minority in today's porn industry. And there's a world of difference between a rough sex or BDSM scene and rape fantasy scene. There are exactly zero mainstream porn producers making rape fantasy videos right now.
pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07
Posted - Jan 30 2017 : 3:30PM
^ Sure it has always existed but that site and similar niche sites hardly qualify as a 'big surge.' There was a lot more rape fantasy porn in the 70s under Nixon and Ford, than at anytime since.
Fly Eagles Fly Super Bowl LII Champions Nova Nation 2016 and 2018 National Champions 5180 Posts 2/16
Posted - Feb 1 2017 : 10:54PM
The camera angles used in Porn Fidelity scenes, they hardly ever show the female performers face or whole body, you mostly see Ryan Madison's ass all the time when they show close ups, no thank you. Any scene they put out is an automatic pass for me. Most of their scenes are close ups and hardly any wide shots.
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Posted - Feb 2 2017 : 1:25AM
^ Yeah, I've never understood the appeal of the Fidelity sites. I guess their fans prefer the "rawness" of their work, but I just see bad camera angles and poor lighting.
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Posted - Feb 2 2017 : 3:56AM
The appeal I understand but the gravity I don't.
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Posted - Feb 2 2017 : 4:13AM
i like that the fidelity scenes almost always end with creampies.that there uniqueness for me,over the camera views you can discuss,a while ago they seem to switched the camera guy out to another one since then its atleast for me not so Ryan focused anymore.but i find the style of filming not so nerving like POV view focused sites like Tiny4k or Lubed for example.
I've always liked the older TeenFidelity/PornFidelity content more than the newer stuff. There was a period of time - a few years ago - when everything from them was pretty good, because it was fun and passionate. Now, it's very much hit or miss, since Ryan decided to turn both sites into "Aggressive Fetish Sex" sites, with incest, rape, and S&M vids. The increase in video quality has been great though. I definitely love the 4K downloads, though the shooting angles and such have kinda gotten a little crazy and schizo. One thing I'd like to see are the older vids remastered at higher bit-rates, as the pre-4K shoots are all low quality 1080P/720P downloads, that aren't as clear as they could be with a higher bit-rate. They have a lot of material to mine for that and it would help them make more money.
I haven't seem any of their stuff from the last few months, but in general I found the lighting and photography be some of the best in porn. It didn't have that bright flat gameshow lighting that most porn has these days.
Um, wrong to the point of spreading misinformation and misrepresenting their content. They do show performers face and whole body throughout the scene, just not all the time since Ryan is a co-star of the scene, not a replaceable stunt cock who are not supposed to get in the way, sometimes are even barely on screen and get commands from director what to do and when to cum like most of other male talents out there. There is always model's body in view so you staring at Ryan's ass or models body is your own choice based on your sexual orientation. More options for viewers is always good. They use far, medium and close-up shots so more variety than on popular cookie-cutter porn sites where every scene looks the same. Close-up insertion shot from behind during creampie in particular isn't actually a flaw but their signature feature and something most of their members voted for in the polls.
I've never understood the appeal of cookie-cutter porn sites with perfect camera angles and lighting but mechanical, bland sex, fake emotions and generic, often cringeworthy porn scenarios and why sometimes they win best BG at AVNs. PornFidelity/TeenFidelity's appeal is in non-porn, closer to real sex shot with cinematic approach that not a lot of companies do, interesting, often origional scene scenarios and scene locations that other popular companies would never use and, of course, deep and intense creampies in a way that nobody else does - that's why creampies aren't really popular because most of popular sites output is really weak in that department. Pretty sure you only watch Lansky sites and HardX/DarkX and have never watched full PornFidelity/TeenFidelity scene. With statements like that I doubt you have even watched any of their trailers (in a long time at least). They won best BG scene at AVN 2015 with Aidra Fox and improved a lot since then. Your definition of good lighting must be just brightly lit typical porn white room and good camera angles must be shooting one position for 5 minutes without moving camera before switching to the next one.
We must be watching different sites then since their sex has always been and is still on a rougher side while remaining fun and passionate and stuff that you've mentioned is a fairly small portion of their content. Also, someone already said that "there are exactly zero mainstream porn producers making rape fantasy videos right now". I'll try to make it easier and just link some of their relatively scenes that came out last year and contradict some of the statements above Morning Joe 3 Miss Harper Make'em Sweat #11 Country Girl 2 And these scenes were nominated at AVNs this year PornFidelity - Boho Beauty PornFidelity -The Producers
Fly Eagles Fly Super Bowl LII Champions Nova Nation 2016 and 2018 National Champions 5180 Posts 2/16
Posted - Feb 3 2017 : 12:32AM
I don't care, I have my opinion and right now you're just I stand by my comments that the camera angles are terrible so stop parading around with your information cuz it's not going to change my opinion. And I'm not giving misinformation btw, I'm stating my opinion, so let's get that straight. And I could care less if they were nominated for awards cuz you know what it doesn't mean a whole lot and did they win? No. Just cuz the Fidelity sites were nominated for awards doesn't mean I'm going to watch their content. If you like it, good for you. I have my opinion, you have yours, there is no need to force your opinion on me.
^ Well, I wasn't posting that to convince you since I figured you prefer different kind of content, just wanted to call out some factually incorrect information and show other members actual content so that they can form their own opinions. Feel free to stand by your opinion, just make sure to learn how to respond to posts right above yours properly - without quoting the entire thing.
What Have You Done To My Little Cable Boy? 2966 Posts 5/10
Posted - Feb 3 2017 : 4:53AM
^Yeah, it's crazy somehow. I used the love JJV but it turned into JJPlayground. And I used to love Mason but DarkX turned into BoredomX. And as you now, I prefer "hot chick and big dick" and who is the guy in almost every HardX scene? It's DupreeDupreeDupree. Seems like even Mr. Flacid is now part of her roster. Maybe my standards are whack, but everywhere I look I see snoozeporn with skinny girls and average joes or half limp dicks. Maybe I just need a break.
Fly Eagles Fly Super Bowl LII Champions Nova Nation 2016 and 2018 National Champions 5180 Posts 2/16
Posted - Feb 3 2017 : 11:33AM
Yeah yeah Once again you can't tell me it's "factually incorrect" when it's my opinion. I think the Patriots are going to win the Super Bowl, so I guess my opinion is "incorrect." If other people are influenced by my opinion, that's their problem. I'm not influenced by other opinions. If my friend loves a song and I think it sucks, I'm going to say it sucks. I don't watch content I don't like and this forum is called "What are some things you HATE in porn," so I think I'm justified to state my opinion here why I don't like their content rather than bashing the site on their forum page.
Agreed. One of the best lighting and photography in porn sounds about right - there are sites with beatiful cinematography and repetitive, scrtipted sex and there are ones with improvised intense sex but picture looks washed out and generic and reminds of porn from early 2000s. I have yet to find another site like PornFidelity/TeenFidelity that combines best of both worlds so well. So good.
Yep, scenes almost always ending with powerful creampies is a big part of their appeal. The fact that Ryan listened to fans feedback and started doing alternate camera angle for creampies around a year ago was a major game changer - now they have both insertion view from behind and side view of their bodies and reactions so fans don't have to argue anymore which one is more important and can enjoy both. Regarding things I hate about porn, it's how other sites do creampies - when the guy is barely inside so it's just a tip insertion and he has a very quiet reaction so you can't even always tell it happened. Just so anticlimactic ansd useless. Even worse when guy cums on her pussy (not inside) and they call it a creampie.
You need to make your own porn. Only solution, I think. Maybe every porn fan one day reaches this point, when his criteria for a fun scene are so high that no one on this planet could fulfill them anymore, I don't know. I am just glad that I feel like I'm still a little bit away from that point.
What Have You Done To My Little Cable Boy? 2966 Posts 5/10
Posted - Feb 5 2017 : 3:43AM
Yeah, but I think I am not that extremely demanding. Short example: guy like Strokes or Manuel + girl like AJ, Maddy or Kendra Lust + anal + good director = I am happy I mean is that too much to ask for? Is that rocket science? But everywhere you see the same small or limp dude, or anal is missing, because it is the age of boring artporn.
^ After watching the latest PornFidelity's Real Life anal scene I have to agree. On a side note, their Real Life premise need to be dropped. When you expect a cinematic greatness and instead get averagely executed amateur porn than can be found at low tier porn sites. The amount of quality and potential that gets thrown out of the window when Ryan is shooting scenes by himself is insane. Too bad majority of other members keep asking for it so expecting more scenes that will never get any award nominations or any praise from the industry like their cinematic stuff does.
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On the licking stick, Mr. Magic Dick! 3309 Posts 2/09
Posted - Feb 13 2017 : 7:21PM
When a girl is blowing 3 or 4 dudes and that one clown insists on slapping her tits.
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Posted - Feb 20 2017 : 4:27AM
POV Scenes where the guy doesn't speak. Just feel weird watching those
pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07
Posted - Feb 21 2017 : 8:38AM
Perhaps you mean stuff from the 90s? I don't recall this being true in any of his 00s gonzo. In fact he usually shot scenes in long unbroken mid-shots.
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Posted - Feb 21 2017 : 6:48PM
I've probably mentioned this before but I hate it when male performers keep their socks on in Blowbangs or Gangbangs. It looks fucking goofy and puts me off the scene! It should be made into a policy for not being allowed.
Less identical crap, more sleaze and bush! 2378 Posts 7/09
Posted - Feb 21 2017 : 7:34PM
DDFBusty using the same shower with a big thick horizontal silver handle across the front of it obscuring some of their boobs pressed against glass upshots!
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Posted - Feb 22 2017 : 9:12AM
it's probably so they don't slip on stray spit and jizz that lands on the floor. "Uh sir, how exactly did you fall?" "Well, I was guy #6 in a 10 man circle jerk on a girl's face. Peter North, yeah, that one, went before me and his pint of cum landed on the floor because he can't aim straight and when I it was my turn, I stepped in it and slipped and hit my head on the table."
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Posted - Feb 22 2017 : 9:13AM
That might be true, I don't know. The other thing I couldn't stand about his stuff was the constant use of natural lighting shining through the windows causing glare and shadows.
pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07
Posted - Feb 22 2017 : 11:06AM
Yeah I definitely remember that. I think that was a feature not a bug as he didn't care for sterile lighting but I can see how others wouldn't like it.
Another theory on the prevalence of socks in blowbang scenes: There are already enough nasty smells on a porn set, do you think the director really wants five to ten mopes of varying hygiene standing around in barefoot too?
When they book a girl with amazing legs and feet and then in the scene the cameramen are not showing them off with the best angles like they should. It's a waste.