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bono-ONE All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Sep 13 2012 : 4:25PM
Just finished Wasteland the latest from Graham Travis and a worthy follow up to Portrait of a Call Girl which came out last year. That one had the singular performance from Jessie Andrews to carry it while this one had two strong female roles for Lily Labeau and Lily Carter. I can see both receiving nominations for AVN this year and they should. The second half of the film is totally dependent on them and I think once you see it you'll agree they delivered and then some. The feeling of emotion and feelings from both girls in this came through in different ways. Lily Carter was easily the more vulnerable of the two or at least showed it outwardly more than Lily Labeau's character did. A couple scenes in this were very powerful especially the one between the girls just before the big finale at the sex club. If you haven't picked it up yet but enjoyed Portrait this is well worth the nearly two hours for the proper film. The sex scenes on the first disc were shortened for story purposes but there are longer versions on the second disc. Not sure if it's all the scenes but you do get a nice second disc of extras which include interviews and other goodies besides the extra sex. Well done Elegant Angel and now lets see what you do next year!!!
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Posted - Sep 13 2012 : 5:08PM
I dunno bono...I've been in enough abusive relationships to not want to watch another one. How wankable?
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Grand Prixxx
The cars are going around again. Around. Around. Around. Not really a Nascar fan how long is this going to go on with all the slo mo? Oh you say there's a good scene in here with Marilyn Jess and Sharon Mitchell? There's some plot here? THE CARS ARE STILL GOING AROUND THE TRACK! Even with fast forward, this is still too slow. Oh fuck I'll never get around to it. Skip!
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Posted - Sep 13 2012 : 5:20PM
Well the sex is aggressive so it helps if you're more into the edgier style of fucking. Their relationship as I saw it was seen differently by both girls going into this reconnection which is how the movie starts with Lily Carter coming to LA to visit Lily Labeau who left Tuscon five years previous. Lily C had a more idealized view of their previous relationship than Lily L did as we find out during the movie but she wasn't mean spirited towards Lily L. The girls had a couple real powerful scenes where the dialogue had to carry the scenes and it did along with some great visuals featuring the girls. You had some strong performers for the sex in this. Manuel shows up for one scene, Xander Corvus for another. The two Lily's fuck each other a couple times in this 1 on 1 before they end the film doing four guys in a sex club while onlookers watched. Lily C does a couple dps in this scene too for those interested. You also have Liza Del Sierra show up in this and she gets a good g/g hook up with Lily C just after she arrives at the sex club. I'll write up a review for this one today I think but if you liked Portrait this one is worth checking out. As Graham Travis said in the directors interview this movie was about connection and these two women had that years ago and in the present day rediscover it but also the honest emotions from the two come out and it isn't always pretty to see but they make it through to the end of the movie. I won't give it away but it leaves open possibilities as to what might happen in the future. There was an alternate ending too on the extras disc.
 
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Posted - Sep 13 2012 : 5:35PM
Thanks for the info bono. It doesn't really sound like I'd like it (being an onlooker at a sex club and not a participant? In a porno that's a no no for me.) but I'm glad you're here reviewing it and it sounds like you gave it a "more honest than shill" close detailed look (aggressive fucking). I'll check out some of the scenes via AEBN!
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Posted - Sep 13 2012 : 6:29PM
That's My Daughter
This is the -ahem- remastered edition. I don't know why they are saying it is remastered, because the audio still doesn't sound so great. I don't know why Lisa De Leeuw is listed as the detective on the cd cover--this is not her movie and she only plays a marginal part. The plot is centered around some old cantankerous fart (Pat Moorehead) who screams: "That's my daughter!" at porno and then tries to get detectives to go get him some tail. I don't know why. He doesn't seem to be needing any help. He bagged Lisa De Leeuw fer chrissakes!!! But anyway that's the plot and it trickles for a good hour or so before it dies. (bla bla bla) In the meantime what you should be buying this movie to see is Sharon Mitchell, Star Wood and Alan Adrian. The blow him and get down to some lezzie action and then Alan (all tied up) comes WITH NO HELP from hands mouth or anything. I haven't been this impressed since I saw Marlene Willoughby hold a pair of panties with her hoo-ha juice in Outlaw Ladies! Some peeps got mad skillz!
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Posted - Sep 13 2012 : 6:32PM
As stated in other threads, "Wasteland" is a movie I really want to see. Like with other features, the plot is what matters to me. From what I've read about the movie, it's about a bad friendship. I've also read the movie is depressing, which it looks like from the trailer. I love "Portrait Of A Call Girl'', and I think that Graham Travis is a great filmmaker. I can tell this is not a movie for raincoaters, but then again it's not supposed to be. I have a feeling this will be the best movie of 2012.
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Posted - Sep 13 2012 : 6:39PM
^
I wouldn't say it's a bad friendship. It just wasn't the friendship that one of the girls, Lily C. thought it was or how she remembered it when the two first hooked up. It was frank at times with Lily L leading that parade off when the girls first started to talk once arriving back at her apartment after going out that night after Lily C arrived. I never got the sense she was being mean spirited about it or trying to hurt Lily C but instead she was being honest on how she felt at the time. The dialogue between the girls is powerful and well written and most of all delivered believably by the two leads. The girls arrive by the end of the film to the most honest place their relationship had ever been. But would they build on this in the future is left up to your imagination as the viewer as we don't get a neat and tidy ending to this show. I think I might like the alternate ending for this film better than the one chosen for the feature but the ending chosen was also very good. It will be up for a ton of awards no doubt and it will deserve all the recognition coming its way.
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Posted - Sep 13 2012 : 6:49PM
^Graham Travis seems to like heavy-handed dramas, but then again that's what he excels at.
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Posted - Sep 13 2012 : 6:50PM
Will there be a limited signed edition with a coffee table book and a cd coming out? I hope so for ebay's sake, and the good of all mankind.
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Posted - Sep 13 2012 : 6:55PM
I haven't seen this movie, but I want to remake this movie.
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Posted - Sep 14 2012 : 6:05AM
Picking up my copy of Wasteland on Sunday. Great to read so many positives with many saying it's better that POACG which is some claim. I'll be keeping an open mind until I've watched this before making any comparisons, now roll on Sunday.
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Posted - Sep 15 2012 : 4:19PM
If it's listed in IAFD as a non compilation and it's listed under Classics, but when you watch it you find out it's actually a compilation....is it a feature?
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Posted - Sep 15 2012 : 4:44PM
Sexpertease
Well they got the tease part right. I liked Stoya's Atomic Tease but how do I review a tease movie that feels over-edited? Like long lingering camera work on a hand and then no long lingering camera work up the hand. It should be a slow reveal, not a no reveal. The movie starts with this domination theme with Janey Robbins, Mindy Rae, and Tamara Longley and you think --they're going to do it!- but instead they just individually pair off with a bunch of guys one on one. Even when it's not one on one, instead of showing the thrusting, they'll show a second girl just watching the thrusting motion (note we do not see the butt being thrusted) and not licking the tits. You licked the tits before--why not now? Another headscratcher is that Michael Carpenter directed this and there's no anal. There's not even a conclusion to the story...did she finish sub school or not? Check out the actresses in this movie...but don't buy this movie.
 
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Posted - Sep 15 2012 : 4:55PM
Sorry it is difficult to write reviews right now when "How dare you watch someone prettier than me and don't you know I find that offensive" keeps walking in to the tv room. Be back later.
Myload
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Posted - Sep 15 2012 : 5:59PM
I just bought a copy of "Wasteland", and it should arrive sometime next week. However, I don't know when I'll get to watch it.
jclabaugh
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Posted - Sep 15 2012 : 6:26PM
My biggest problem is Otto Baur he has to be in every scene Audrey hollander is in, and he is disgusting. On the other hand Otto and Adrey destroy the World is one on myfavorite movies.
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Posted - Sep 16 2012 : 1:44AM
Grand Prixxx
Upon a second viewing of Grand Prix I find that it's not a terribly bad movie, just an overpatient one. The impression it left me with was not one of contempt but sadness. They could've really played up the Daddy/Daughter both sleeping with the step-mom relationship but didn't. Was there ever really any trouble in paradise? The sex is servicably wankable. No surprises.
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Posted - Sep 16 2012 : 9:27AM
^ I thought it was pretty surprising when a visibly irritated Sharon Mitchell slapped Rocco during their scene.
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Posted - Sep 16 2012 : 9:59AM
Just finished watching this and I still have a huge smile on my face twenty minutes or so later, it really is an excellent movie. Pleasantly surprised at the performances by the two Lilly's, after POACG my expectations were pretty high so was slightly apprehensive, I need not have worried. The sex scenes are integrated superbly and the scenes are shortened in comparison to Portrait still you lose nothing (for me you gain) due to the superb editing. Can't complain at the price either, (shhh! I would have actually paid a little bit more) very happy with my purchase and money well spent. :)
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Posted - Sep 16 2012 : 10:06AM
Sold.
Edited to add, I just ordered it.
Edited by - Gore Gore Girl on 9/16/2012 10:09:23 AM
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"Someone's in for a treat, I really hope you like it. :)
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Posted - Sep 16 2012 : 1:13PM
GGG
I noticed in the first scene that this wasn't one of those movies with plot points discussed during the sex scenes (which made me glad, because the volume is kinda broke and I hate adjusting the volume on the off chance something important was said) so I was fast forwarding. It may have been cut from the Caballero release. I know there was a scene cut out where the stepmom left John Leslie. A slap to Rocco wouldn't surprise me.
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Posted - Sep 18 2012 : 10:43PM
Corporate Assets 2
I just want you all to know that Thomas Paine did definately not sell out. Take the plot of this one which follows DIRECTLY the path from Corporate Assets 1 for example; Our beloved vietnam vet whose name in the film temporarily escapes me is still having gasp!--troubling dreams--. In order to alleviate these dreams, his now freed prostitute wife knows just the solution... a big orgy that's not really an orgy because there's too much parallel play. I don't think it's weird that all the bad guys in the world were in the room when they got shot at the end of Corporate Assets 1. I don't even think it's strange that all of that psychological help from Corporate Assets 1 did nothing to help this guy. Paine is saying to the audience: "hey--WISE UP! It's not about what you thought the movie was about, it's what I thought it was about that's important, so I've hired all new people and fired the writers to prove it to you!" If you're looking into Corporate Assets 2, you're not looking in the right place. You have to find this movie's extrinsic value--sand burned into glass with some aluminum and images printed with ink!
 
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Posted - Sep 20 2012 : 3:36AM
I think I'm going to wait for the blu-ray release of Wasteland.
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Posted - Sep 20 2012 : 2:36PM
Concubine
So the other day I was on --a website-- that I am not sure I can name, but it had these segments about porn stars and their homes. Julia Ann's house was like totally empty(I don't know how she lives in it) and Asia Carrera's house was kinda weird too. She has all this stuff up about herself --posters and ego boosters. She was showing off that she was in Mensa and also showing off her Unreal tournament jacket. I don't know what happens with these girls. They're on camera all day long so...no time for individual home personalities? Just warm up a tv dinner? Like --Asia! --you do not need to go around with Mensa dorks to prove that you are smart and that your opinions are valid and that you are worthy of love respect and admiration! I would've really been happier if there was a stain on the carpet or a chipped "Naturalized Texan" mug lying around--just so I could laugh and say: "that's my house too!". How can girls get so far in this biz--and still feel like they have to front?
It made me think about this movie, which does not have Asia in it, but does have her future husband Bud Lee directing. The girls her all fuck like 22 hour firecrackers, and not a hint of shyness! The story here was about this dude who goes off to Thailand and meets this really nice prostitute who he aids in escaping the country. Then he takes her home to have two wives! I wish Bud Lee would make Concubine 2, just so I could see the expression on Dude A's wife's face. Like really dude, you really need two wives. Do you know how much bickering there's going to be? And you took her just because she's a good fuck? (AND SHE WAS A GOOD FUCK! Wankers beware she is a ball girl). Well love is who you fuck right? That's the general impression I got, which makes for a good male oriented fantasy wank.
Go see it. It's got the DCO mark of actual approval.
Edited by - Diablo Canyon One on 9/20/2012 2:38:54 PM
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Posted - Sep 24 2012 : 3:08PM

For some reason my posts for other threads keep coming up here.
Edited by - Diablo Canyon One on 9/24/2012 3:10:40 PM
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Posted - Sep 24 2012 : 5:12PM
Charli
Of interesting note is the infamous VCX commercial halfway through. If you look into the background of the sex shop all the prices for movies are like $70-$90. Can you imagine how much that would be in 70's dollars? I would love to know whether this was wishful thinking on VCX's part or accurate. Some nice but tragically shourt lezzing by Annette Haven and Jessie St. James. The plot was fairly straightforward, but at least it moved along well enough to take the whole thing in one sitting. I didn't think it was that wankable. No swinging (the lez scene is a dream sequence, as are the scenes with Eric Edwards and other women), just genital handshakes.
It's okay.
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Posted - Sep 24 2012 : 7:35PM
In The Sign of The Lion (1976)
Of all the Tegn zodiac movies this happens to be my favourite, comedy porn, well scripted with some excellent performances. If it's hot sex scenes your after you may want to give this series a miss but if it's strong plots with colourful comical drama and hardcore then give these Danish productions a try, you'll be in for a treat.
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There's an excellent drama sequence in the Sign of The Taurus around the 30 minute mark and again (imo) a good movie. I did find the last two movies in the series (Scorpio and Sagittarius) the weaker of the set but still entertaining.
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Posted - Sep 25 2012 : 4:00AM
That would have been in 1980s dollars as Charli is from 1982. And yes, they did charge that much for videos at the beginning, I remember going into porn shop in the 90s and they were still trying to sell videos for $60.
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Posted - Sep 26 2012 : 6:01PM
^I remember videotapes being as much as $100. That's why I didn't buy any of them.
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Posted - Sep 29 2012 : 4:48AM
Wasteland
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The Taking of Christina 1976
Pretty disturbed by this one to be honest, not a lot of fun, nevertheless an extremely well made movie. Recommended to those who like the 70s roughies and have (unlike me) a cast iron stomach. I have two other roughies to watch, think I'll give it a day or two though.
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Posted - Oct 5 2012 : 1:53AM
The Taking of Christina is a great movie but not hot at all, Weston said that when Russell brought the story idea to him he didn't see how it could be erotic, so I don't think he tried very much to make it erotic (only the Teri Hall C.J. Laing scene is sexy imo).
 
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Posted - Oct 5 2012 : 6:55AM
I also thought the Teri Hall Jack Thompson scene was pretty good but by then the rape scene was etched so the scene was a little lost on me to be honest. About to watch The Defiance of Good, judging by other posts on this forum this one should be plenty of fun also.
BlackSix, are you aware of an interview or an article from Armand Weston regarding Christina? Thanks.
Edited by - Jonny Jay on 10/5/2012 7:30:37 AM
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Posted - Oct 6 2012 : 1:36AM
The interview with Armand Weston used to be up on the Alpha Blue Archives site but I think they've taken it down.
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*oops*
Edited by - BlackSix on 10/15/2012 6:00:48 AM
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Posted - Oct 14 2012 : 12:03PM
Russian Institute X, awesome... Does RI series qualify as "feature"?
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Posted - Oct 15 2012 : 5:59AM
Whoah, that post was intended for the non-porn feature thread, sorry folks.
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Posted - Oct 16 2012 : 1:13AM
re Taking of Christina - Yeah not a very erotic movie but I liked the Terri Jack scene too, probably because she has a fantastic rack and gave a great BJ. I found the sexiest thing in the movie was the stripper on the bar, with the right music made it perfectly sleazy.
For an erotic film that covers similar themes I highly recommend Expensive Tastes (1978). btw What is the other roughie you have lined up?
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Posted - Oct 17 2012 : 8:13AM
Thanks for your recommendation draghixafan. It is a movie that I've watched and probably had my expectations set in the wrong direction, I've just purchased this on VOD for seven days so will be giving it another go shortly.
The other roughies I had lined up were The Defiance of Good and also The Taming of Rebecca, probably completing my initiation into the world of roughies, especially after watching the latter.
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Posted - Oct 17 2012 : 6:02PM
Your very welcome, please let me know what you think? I found the darkly lit room scene with her attitude and the projector visuals very hot.
Ahh the legendary Phil Prince.. You do know that once you open that door and tumble down that rabbit hole there is no turning back?
Another worthy addition worth a look is Prisoner Of Pleasure starring Long Jeanne Silver doing her thing
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Posted - Oct 22 2012 : 5:38AM
^Watched Expensive Tastes again and I like the movie, production wise it's very very good but I didn't get that roughie edge to it. It didn't help that I almost immediately guessed what was happening in THAT first scene so the surprise element was never there for me, I thought the feel good music was misplaced too. The 'rabbit hole' syndrome must have well and truly kicked in with me, oh dear!
Climax of Blue Power 1975 is a roughie for sure and pretty much ends my current interest in these movies. I think I've got pretty much what I wanted from them, well that is until my next bout of curiosity I guess.
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Posted - Oct 22 2012 : 5:51AM
Co-Ed Fever 1980
What a good movie this is, I can't believe I didn't watch this much earlier to be honest. It was probably the amount of stars that put me off watching this in the first instance, I was expecting the array of names to be a cover for a poor production, I was very much wrong.
If like me you like college themed movies with a solid plot and strong performances give this a go that's if you haven't already.
draghixafan
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Posted - Oct 22 2012 : 7:05PM
Sorry, was more a recommendation for an erotic rape than a roughie. I did too and agree on the music, still found it very enjoyable and Elaine Wells played her part perfectly.
I was only joking about the rabbit hole bit and strange genre the roughie, like to know more about its history as seems such an extreme next step from the nudie cutie given America's censors I thought usual aversion to graphic sex. I can understand the gore vids but not these so much. Especially considering was before the home market and these were being shown in public theaters. I haven't seen too many but though have erotic scenes/elements are sometimes a pretty tough watch, and seem to have a bit of art for arts sake.. perhaps an attempt to push the boundaries to see just how far they could go.
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Posted - Oct 22 2012 : 7:57PM
I misread your post, my bad, you did indeed make your recommendation as you said, explains why I was getting mixed messages from the movie, watching out of context. God I look like I can't take a joke either, ouch! :(
Totally getting what your saying about wanting to know about the history of roughies and understanding the genre. Have you watched the American Grindhouse (2010) documentary? I'm not sure to what extent your interest is but for a novice like myself I certainly considered it essential viewing. It definitely helped to piece together whatever information I'd gathered up to that point.
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Posted - Oct 22 2012 : 8:29PM
re the taking a joke.. no that was me misreading your post, sorry, seems to be a bit of that going around ;)
Yeah great doco, but was pretty brief on roughies from memory for obvious reasons. Being a novice too it was very interesting to see the progression, also because have recently started watching old exploitation movies finally seeing classics like Texas Chainsaw, Spit on Your Grave and recently Last House on the Left.
It does interest me quite a bit because I am finding that that era of porn often has things sorely missing from todays' porn eg. What has changed in porn since the 70s?
Edited by - draghixafan on 10/23/2012 12:07:33 AM
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Definitely brief on the roughie side but very good time line wise. Speaking of Spit on Your Grave, I first watched this when I was twelve, a friends parent thought we were mature enough to watch it, crazy!
draghixafan
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Posted - Oct 23 2012 : 6:04AM
Jesus! Closest I get to that was Evil Dead when I was about 14-15 :)
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Posted - Oct 23 2012 : 8:24AM
^Tell me about it!
Back on topic
Les petites écolières 1980
Getting back on the Alpha France trail led me to this little French gem, starring arguably the three most recognisable 70s French performers, Brigitte Lahaie, Alban Ceray and Dominique Aveline.
Four girls are sent to a sex education school for the sexually inexperienced by the partners where they are trained in the art of lovemaking and have to pass their final exam to graduate, which obviously they all do. It's a fun movie with some very pretty woman, Brigette, as she tends to, steals the show with her flawless looks and striking costumes.
I wouldn't say this is the best Frédéric Lansac (Claude Mulot) movie that I've seen, however it is a movie I would happily watch on a few more occasions quite easily.
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