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Solaar pleure
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Posted - Jun 7 2015 : 8:16PM
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That's perfectly fine. Again, you're free to like or want whatever. And you (people in general) don'thave to explain it. But if you do just be aware that if someone disagrees they might call you on it.
Also be aware that you're one person with an opinion. Too many people are convinced that what they like, everyone likes and they speak for the masses. So just because a poster believes Boob jobs, butt implants, girls not doing anal, girls waiting for a bigger pay day, etc., etc., is going to somehow destroy the porn industry because that's what they're convinced of...doesn't actually make it true.[/quote]
Draxxx, I would never blame anybody for what they like, so I just don't understand why you think someone might call me on just stating a mere preference. Do you mean they will try to convince me that what I like is wrong, and that it makes sense to embrace their preferences?
Good luck to anybody who tries, as an example I wanna see anybody who does not like Annika Albrite ,Tori Black, Skin Diamond convince me that I should not have a devotion for those girls.
Believe me, I know that every time I state a preference, it is just my own, I am not presumptuous enough to think that my views reflect everybody else's.
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Posted - Jun 7 2015 : 11:43PM
Yup. She performed with her husband Mr Pete, and ebony superstar Marie Luv in Marie Luv's Go Hard or Go Home.
Though of course that's not the kind of IR scene most people are referring to when they say she'll never do IR.
[edit: added movie link]
Edited by - killbillvol69 on 6/7/2015 11:44:56 PM
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^If I am not mistaken she did a scene with Justin but it was taken off the market after that he left the business.
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^ I don't believe you.
Do you have proof of that?
 
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Posted - Jun 8 2015 : 2:32AM
I never claimed it was morality free. I also explained why the business is segregated right after the sentence you copied. Porn is segrerated because there are fetishes and generes it specializes in. So you have big breasts over here, big butts over there, features right there, IR over there, etc.. etc...Black men can't have the same opportunities as white men because there's waaay more white male porn being produced. Black women will never have the same opportunities as white women because there's way more white woman based porn being produced. Very very simple but apparently hard to accept. The vast majority of the audience is white and most prefer seeing white on white porn. Not all white people but a very sizable part of the audience. Black on black porn is a niche. IR porn is a niche. It's a sizable niche but it's still just a niche. Porn is filled with people not getting the same oppurtunities as some others. Most Asians don't work as much as their white counterparts. BBW women don't work as much as their thinner counterparts. Black men with smaller junk don't work as much as black men with bigger junk.
My gosh! Why isn't everything equal for everybody? And why with all this inequality going on are you only concerned with black men? Because that's what you want to watch. Somewhere on a messageboard some fan is complaining that BBW women should be treated better in porn. Because that's what that person cares about. And the answer for that BBW fans is the same as it is for you...You get what you get because that's what the market dictates.
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Posted - Jun 8 2015 : 2:50AM
I'm not putting or want to put black men down. I'm black and a fan of most black performers. Just because I understand why things are the way they are doesn't mean I'm putting black men down.
And of course I never said all black men were into Alexis Texas.
Okay, if you say so.
I've seen the video. I saw it before it was brought up here. I watched it again since. I've read and watched it all by now because the same quotes and videos keep being referred to here over and over and over again.
Yeah, theoretically a girl could make more money by adding IR to the porn they do...But the point I clearly made and you ignored is that not every girl in porn is in it to shoot as many scenes as they can. Some girls are happy and comfortable only shooting a few times a month and they can get that work shooting white on white scenes. For some girls they can sustain that for years. And yes, Lex is in the porn biz and I'm not. But you know who eles is in the porn biz? The women who choose not to do IR and are supposedly missing out on all this IR money. They know better than anyone how money money they're supposedly missing out on. If they know they're missing out on that money and it's not bothering them enough to change then what are we supposed to do? Chase them with sticks until they do IR?
Uh...okay.
Edited by - draxxx on 6/8/2015 4:10:55 AM
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Posted - Jun 8 2015 : 2:58AM
I have no idea about Alexis Texas but there are white girls who've banged black guys off camera but wouldn't do it on camera. If they have friends, family, agents who disapprove of them doing black guys, when they do it off camera there's no hard evidence. This has been discussed before.
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Posted - Jun 8 2015 : 8:50AM
Those were questions BTW who obviously you totally skipped and ignored.
also I fail to understand why an inteview given on a BTS on a DVD is worthless but anything you find on youtube is as true as a Bible verse.
but then again you're not giving any evidence either , where did Capri she was never told by any agent not to shoot any IR?
Where she did ever say she stopped doing IR as her choice?
these are the question s
you on the other hand are just babbling about being repository of truth because, well just because
anyway I mention DVDs because I'm used to pay for my porn plus anybody worldwide may have the same source.
And no in no way I'm going to make anybody able to track me down crossreferencing my accounts and statements and this is not because of porn or you
so no facebook, no twitter, no MSN , no Google accounts for me
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Posted - Jun 8 2015 : 9:04AM
Really?
Ali Larter in Heroes a mainstream TV show was in relationship with a black man and had a mixed son , the very same actress played in Obsessed a movie where a white woman was so obseesd with a (married) black man to the point of craziness. In Joss Whedon's Angel Amy Acker played a Texan character in relationship with a black man (possibly because Amy Acker is actually Texan)
murdock
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Posted - Jun 8 2015 : 9:37AM
^ TV seems to have a slightly different set of "standards" compared to movies. General rule of thumb in Hollywood is unless the movie is specifically about interracial dating, you can't have a black leading man opposite a white love interest. Generally speaking the larger the budget for a movie the less likely it is to have a black man in the lead role. Interestingly enough Will Smith is the biggest exception to both of those rules.
You can find some exceptions, but not very many. (and practically none outside of Will Smith)
Oh and it may or may not be relevant but two of Will Smith's white love interests on the big screen happen not to be American. (Charlize Theron and Margot Robbie)
Edited by - murdock on 6/8/2015 9:43:42 AM
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Posted - Jun 8 2015 : 11:08AM
In the post in which I am quoting now and and the one in which I quoted previously you explained why porn is segregated, not why that segregation is morally justifiable. It is the latter than I am asking you about.
I haven't suggested that the industry should view all black men as interchangeable with one another and not differentiate between them (ability to perform, penis size, physique, etc.) at all. There's a difference between some black men getting more work than other black men on the one hand and black men being collectively segregated from other male performers as a race.
Edited by - misspornUSA on 6/8/2015 11:20:48 AM
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Obsessed was largely aimed at black, female audiences and played into stereotypical fears (white women want to steal our black men).
I've seen more black-white romances on television than I have on film. They're just not very common.
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Posted - Jun 8 2015 : 12:12PM
How could you been black and support this, where is your pride at because you lack of it. Not all black men don't agree with you Draxxx because they will call you a Tom which is the worst name for a black man who is kiss the white man ass. It just that these black men in porn have to kiss the right ass to get work.
murdock
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Posted - Jun 8 2015 : 12:28PM
Agreed. There is a huge difference.
But explain how in the context of IR porn (where fans insist that IR porn is specifically BM/WF with no exceptions) how you can make the necessary distinction without treating the black male talent differently. The very nature of the genre demands it. The two are inextricably intertwined.
You can't demand that you have BM/WF porn and then turn around and say you want everybody treated the same. If the consumer isn't willing to treat the talent the same, why should the industry?
 
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Posted - Jun 8 2015 : 12:47PM
Bcause it's a business that deals in genres, fetishes and fantasy as I've said repeatedly. Porn is a business where morals aren't the driving factor. There's a long list of immoral things happening in porn but you just choose to focus on this one part. The supply and demand nature of porn dictates it won't be moral like you'd expect from the real world. If porn always did what's morally right then lots what it offers goes away. Is it morally right to slap women? Is it morally right to show rape fantasies? Is it morally right to show women treated as pieces of meat? Is it morally right to depict incest? You want to pick and choose which morality they respect.
That's why I see it as "justifiable". Because of the audience the segregation is justifiable. Some black men have greatly benefitted from that segregation. Porn isn't a bar where they won't let black people in to be served. It's a business that calls for different people to serve different roles. Some of those roles serve a bigger part of the audience than others. That's why things will never be equal for everyone in porn.
You claim it's not all about morality for but it seems that's the only side you have any real interest in. The only business aspect you've mentioned is how waiting for a bigger payday is going to somehow ruin porn and when pressed "ruining" porn to you had something to do with you feeling the white male peformers were lacking and that somehow lead to white women wanting money was awful for black males.
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Posted - Jun 8 2015 : 12:59PM
^^I'm hesitant to respond to this because I don't want the thread to be locked.
Ramon Nomar is Hispanic. In some of his scenes his being Hispanic is made important. In many (arguably most) of his other scenes it isn't. It can be the same for black men. This is already happening in porn, albeit on an extremely limited scale. A couple months ago Nat Turner appeared in a Brazzers scene with Summer Brielle titled "Pornstars Anonymous." In it Nate played the instructor of a support group for ex-pornstars. Nat's race was incidental to the role. It could just as easily have been written for Johnny Sins. If black men were treated equally we would see a lot more of that.
Edited by - misspornUSA on 6/8/2015 1:01:05 PM
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I'm not calling for the destruction of IR fetish. I like those scenes. That doesn't mean that black men shouldn't be considered for roles outside of traditional IR porn on a same footing with non-blacks.
I'm focusing on this particular issue in the context of this specific thread. There are plenty of other things in the industry that I would like to see changed.
I don't see anything immoral about any of the fantasy roleplay scenarios you described, and having rough sex (including slapping) is not immoral unless it is non-consensual. I tend to prefer rough sex in my personal life and I've done a lot of roleplay over the years. I don't regard those things as immoral.
And nearly all non-black men benefit from it.
It's not a question of everyone being treated equally in porn. I haven't suggested that the industry should view all black men as interchangeable with one another and not differentiate between them (ability to perform, penis size, physique, etc.) at all. There's a difference between some black men getting more work than other black men on the one hand and black men being collectively segregated from other male performers as a race.
There are a number of black guys who I would prefer to see in this or that scene more than the non-black guys who were casted instead. That desire has nothing to do with morality. It's not a moral concern, though the reason that black guys aren't in those scenes in large part is.
Edited by - misspornUSA on 6/8/2015 1:21:27 PM
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Posted - Jun 8 2015 : 1:23PM
^^I completely agree that seeing more scenes like that would be ideal from a racial standpoint. Those are typically the sort of IR scenes that I watch, specifically because they don't play up the races of the performers involved. I just want to watch hot people fuck. I don't care what color their skin is.
But that's me, and that's you. How do you think the rest of the IR community would feel if that became the norm for IR scenes? Do you think most would be satisfied with that or do a significant number of people want to see the Hush Hush/Dog Fart styles scenes where the race of the performers is the focus of the scene?
Don't get me wrong, I would be thrilled if you and I were in the majority, but I don't believe that we are, or will be anytime in the near future. And as long as a significant portion of IR fans want IR themed porn, then you won't get racial equality in porn. The two are mutually exclusive.
Edited by - murdock on 6/8/2015 1:23:48 PM
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Posted - Jun 8 2015 : 1:37PM
You're allowed to prefer whatever you want. That doesn't mean you have a right to get it though. And just because you didn't get it doesn't mean it was because of some moral lapse in the industry. The industry has no moral obligation to give you what you want, or to give any or all black performers X number of scenes. The studios are about making money, and they do that most effectively by meeting the wants of the masses, not the wants of the individuals.
We live in an imperfect world. But for the most part, the porn industry as it is today is a result of that imperfect world, not the cause of it.
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^
They can coexist. Nat Turner, who was in the Brazzers scene I mentioned, recently shot an excellent scene with Aria Alexander for Blacks on Blondes. Why not? The point is that black men should be able to shoot for both, not that the Brazzers scene should exist and the DogFart scene shouldn't.
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^^The lapse in morality exists independently of my wants, and in fact preceded them. Even if I wasn't unsatisfied with the performances of an increasing number of non-black males, the segregation of black males in the industry would still be just as immoral.
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Posted - Jun 8 2015 : 1:45PM
It's not theoretical. It's actual. That's why tons of girls, such as the ones who don't work with Black men, do cam work off camera, skype shows, and other jobs to make money. Because the scenes they do don't allow them to make enough money.
And what I've always found puzzling is the girls who refuse to work with Black men, you know because they're "pacing their career", jump right to anal as soon as they enter the industry. Because they do know the long term side effects of anal and the preparation it takes right?
So why do it then?
Well because anal pays more.
So they'd rather deal with rectal tearing, using laxatives regularly, starving themselves before scenes, and possibly wearing diapers after years of doing such scenes rather than do normal b/g scenes with Blacks and make more money that way.
That's mindboggling.
Alexis deliberately trolled with that g/g scene knowing it wasn't what people had been requesting.
Edited by - Zy28 on 6/8/2015 1:56:34 PM
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Posted - Jun 8 2015 : 1:50PM
^^
That why black men in porn need to started there own companies because they can shoot for themselves, and doing it outside of LA or Vegas. Most black men would be better off doing amateur porn because they get much work on those sites or make there own website like Danny Oceans or Richard Mann. Richard Mann have been doing amateur porn before pro porn, and still does it now. I think Draxxx doesn't want to see black men in porn be successful or any black woman too but most of them will end up leave the industry because of there skin color. The industry just favorites skin color over performance over is sad.
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Posted - Jun 8 2015 : 1:53PM
^
I doubt that's the case.
 
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Posted - Jun 8 2015 : 1:54PM
^ My point is as long as the latter (dogfart-style) scenes are in demand that you will never have racial equality as those two things can't co-exist. Of course somebody can shoot for Brazzers and for Dog Fart. Nobody suggested otherwise. But as long as people are fetishisizng particular races, they won't be equal in porn.
It doesn't matter how Utopian is outside of fetishized IR, as long as fetishized IR is around, you will have inequality. That's the whole point of fetishized IR. You're not just acknowledging skin color with fetishized IR, you're assigning particular significance to it.
I suppose if everything happened to work out perfectly and the porn buying public was equally distributed among people that like to watch BM/WF, BM/BF, WM/WF and WM/BF then I suppose demand could balance out and you might see the illusion of equality since demand for all of them would be the same, but that A) isn't very likely to happen and B) isn't really equality anyway, it's just balanced inequality.

Edited by - murdock on 6/8/2015 1:55:37 PM

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^I think that the equality I want to see take place and the equality you (I think) want to see take place is not the same thing.
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Posted - Jun 8 2015 : 2:14PM
Well, I guess this is another one of those agree to disagree spots because A) I don't buy your premise that it is some systemic problem caused by the industry and B) even if I did accept that premise I don't think it is any less moral (or any more deserving of moral justification) than anything else the porn industry does.
But let's pretend I agree with you on that stuff. Since you seem to have this figured out, what is the correct proportion to make everything morally just for you? Should it be 50/50 across the board for all genres? Should it vary per genre? Should it be proportional to the ratio of black talent to white talent? Should it be proportional to the ration of consumers that prefer black talent to the consumers that prefer white talent? You seem very adamant that it is wrong right now. What would make it right?
And if you're not talking about scenes shot, then what? Pay? Something else?
Edited by - murdock on 6/8/2015 2:17:51 PM
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^I want black men to be treated the same way as other men in the industry, not better or worse.
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^^ How are they treated differently now?
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^As you know, black men are not ordinarily considered for scenes in which their race is not relevant, to the point that some production companies will hire a black man only very rarely or never at all. Stoya had to go so far as to threaten to leave Digital Playground in order for them to meet her demand to shoot with a black man.
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^And again, I'll tell you that racial fetishism is the root of the problem. Eliminate the IR fetishism and that (racial neutral porn) is a realistic achievable goal. But as long as people are demanding fetishized IR content then you have a big problem. Either you end up with a racist double standard where you have labels that can cater to fans of black male talent (which you seem to have no problem with) but can't have studios that cater to fans of white male talent (which you clearly just criticized Digital Playground of doing)
If you want to homogonize porn and let everyone be treated equally then the racial fetishisizing has to go first. Traditional IR is based on the concept that black men and white men aren't interchangeable. That's the whole point of it.
Of course the industry could just decide one day that their going to ignore the traditional IR fans entirely, shoot everything as "race neutral" and cast whoever was available regardless of skin color. I think that would be great from a selfish perspective as that would make a lot more content for me to buy and watch, and it would be great in terms of progressive thinking as it would be a step towards a better world, but at the same time, I know it would make porn fans any less racist, and it would alienate a significant portion of the porn market and cost themselves a lot of money. But overall I still wouldn't agree with that move because I don't think that porn should cater to me, I think it should cater to everyone (within the limits of the law) and if a bunch of people want black on white porn specifically (and are willing to pay for it) then they should get it, and if a bunch of people want white on white porn (and are willing to pay for it) then they should get that too.
If it's legal and performers are willing to do it, and there is a paying audience for it, I think it should be made. I don't care how offensive I happen to think it is. how morally reprehensible I think it is, how nasty, gross, repugnant or otherwise unappealing I think it might be, if somebody else gets their jollies to it, more power to them. Freedom comes with a price and sometimes that means you have to put up with some shit that you don't like in order to get the stuff that you do like.
I'm not willing to force my morals and likes on anyone else because I don't want anyone else to do it to me.
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^
And I still wonder why she's not praised as much as she deserves for that
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^^As you said, we'll have to agree to disagree about what equality means and whether the fetishization of black men is the root of the problem.
^DP basically doesn't exist for many IR fans. I don't recall even knowing who Stoya was until I heard something about her being James Deen's girlfriend.
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True but still she did something unheard of and never repeated , maybe DP could be ignored but not what she's done
Actually it may be even more relevant , Charlize Theron is South African possibly the only place on Earth where the racial division is even worst than in the States they had the Apartheid until few years ago , I was even surprised she accepted the role as Hancock's wife and lover , not because she's racist but for the, very possible backlash she may get in her Country in matter of popularity.
It is even most relevant to this thread , if even a South African saw no problem playing such role nobody else should

Edited by - LCF on 6/8/2015 4:25:36 PM

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^It's been a long time since I've seen Hancock, but as far as I can remember the most that Charlize and Will ever really do is hold hands once. I think she's touches his body a bit at some point and they nearly kiss (same scene?), but certainly nothing compared to Focus. Furthermore Charlize stays with her white husband and family and Hancock leaves to enable her to do that. Nothing really controversial there, though I don't think that Charlize would have had a problem with more. Interracial relationships are much more common in South Africa today than they were in the years immediately following apartheid, especially since many communities are so mixed.
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^^^
Margot Robbie as Harley Quinn in next Suicide Squad?
^
They were married for centuries but couldn't stay together because they would die , that's why they don't touch themselves and he leaves her with her husband.
anyway it's the role that counts and most certainly the SA racists wouldn't really mind whether they really touched themselves or not
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^The point is that nothing really happens between them. As far as I know the movie was successful in South Africa.
Yes, that Margot Robbie. I'll say it again, seeing a sex scene between a black man and a blonde, blue eyed, white woman in a major studio release is a rare thing indeed.
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Posted - Jun 8 2015 : 6:10PM
Hancock actually had a real kiss. It was removed after test audiences reacted negatively when they saw it.
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^
And that reminds me of "The Pelican Brief", where in the book it's based on Julia Roberts and Denzel Washington's characters do get romantic with each other, but they didn't do it in the movie because of how they thought audiences would react (both black and white, actually). Closest Denzel has come is Eva Mendes.
Which then reminds me that the love interest in Hitch was supposed to white (and Cameron Diaz was under consideration), but again, afraid of the audience reaction they made her Hispanic and cast Eva Mendes.
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Are we taking about mainstream movies or are we taking about porn here, anyway back to the topic. I want to know how much did Carter Cruise get for her 1st IR scene anyway because I bet you it's between $5,000 or $10,000. Jenna Presley on Howard Stern onetime said she got $10,000 for her 1st IR scene with Lexington Steele. Now I bet you that Nikki Benz got that same deal when she shot her 1st IR feature for Jules Jordan last year. The only director will do this is Jules Jordan, Amy Reid and Nikki Benz maybe got the same deal like Jenna did for her 1st IR scenes.
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^^Latinas are considered a safe choice by studios. In the film Flight, it's implied that Denzel, playing a pilot, has sex with a Latina flight attendant. It's also later implied that he has sex with a white heroin addict. We don't actually see the sex taking place either time as far I can remember. I can't even recall any kissing, but I only saw that film during it's theatrical release and that was a few years ago.
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I'm surprised that Jenna was willing to say the actual amount. There were a lot of rumors about Amy Reid being paid a particularly exorbitant number for both of her IR scenes, but as far as I know everyone involved remained quiet about the exact figure. I doubt that Nikki get paid as much as either of them, but who knows? Pornstars don't talk about it because they know that it's politically incorrect to admit that they get paid more to have sex with a black man. Adriana Chechik said that she was set to get paid more but wasn't. That's the closest that any pornstar who I know of has come to discussing the issue in any detail, at least in recent memory.
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Jon Jon's scenes with AJ Applegate & Valentina Nappi over at EroticaX, "Move With Me" & "Shades Of Desire", are sort of like what you mentioned, iirc.
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Posted - Jun 8 2015 : 8:34PM
^
There's more than a few companies that shoot IR that do scenes that aren't racially motivated (Naughty America is another one), it's just that those companies generally shoot IR so rarely that IR fans don't look to them for IR scenes, so they end up getting passed over/ignored when talking about the state of IR in general.
NomnoMnOm
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Posted - Jun 8 2015 : 8:41PM
Agreed.
Interracial4Life
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Posted - Jun 8 2015 : 9:20PM
If you get rid of IR then how would black men in porn get more work, IR is the only work they can get because some white companies don't shoot IR movies or sometime they do shoot IR scenes but in non IR movies. So IR is here to stay and if you get rid of then guys like Lexington Steele, Sean Michaels, and Prince or companies like Blacked.com would be out of the industry and end up working at a Target. It will also hurt them from making a brand and wining a awards. Eliminate IR means Eliminate black men from porn. BTW not all black men who are IR fans don't watch racist type of IR because that is made for white men, there a lack of porn for black men made by black men but Blacked.com is made for black men
Edited by - Interracial4Life on 6/8/2015 9:22:16 PM
phoenix_marie1
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What, What
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Posted - Jun 9 2015 : 1:00AM
Hold Up… What did you say I did?!
chessmaster
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Posted - Jun 9 2015 : 2:46AM
^ thats funny.
cartercruise
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Posted - Jun 9 2015 : 4:10AM
Hi. Id like to chime in here since I seem to be a big point of discussion. I did not *wait* to shoot IR for the money. When I came into the industry, I had no intention of ever shooting IR because of the way I *believed* it was portrayed in porn. Although there is some negatively driven IR porn out there, I realized after a few months in the industry that it was not all like that (I am not a porn watcher, so I discovered this through working in the industry). When Blacked launched last year, I became particularly interested in them. I spoke to Greg last summer and told him I wanted to do my first interracial for the site. Around the same time, my career took off, and I was booked several months in advance. In fact, I was one of (if not THE) most shot girl in the biz last year. I can tell people what I want to do, but it comes down to the company to schedule it with my agent in time before I'm booked up. I was in no rush to do IR. I wasn't banging down doors to do it, but I had made it clear that I was ready and willing to do so. A couple companies approached me with projects which I was down for, but due to scheduling, etc they never came to fruition. At the end of 2014 it was decided that I would shoot my first IR after AVN, which I later found out would be a showcase. I did not ask for a showcase, bht was offered it, much to my surprise. We began shooting in early 2015 and it took months to shoot, finishing in May.
I'm really annoyed that I have to detail this whole process, but as it seems to be a huge point of contingency for many of you, here it is. Feel free to share with other haters on the interwebz. I literally could care less what color someone's skin is. The only reason I ever found IR objectionable is because of the type of stuff I'm reading on this forum which makes interracial a WAY bigger deal than it should be. I was most turned off by the people who would email me horrible things because I hadn't shot IR when I had every intention of doing so. Call me crazy, but proving I'm not racist to people who make countless anonymous twitter accounts to berate me for not doing IR isn't really my steez. I don't negotiate with terrorists, nor rush into action in order to prove a bully wrong.
As for all the people who say I should have done IR before everything else I did... Relax. My first DP was unplanned, and was only my second anal scene in the business. It was scheduled for a BBG and we ended up doing a DP. The same thing happened with DV and I haven't done DA. I did ONE gang bang a few months before my first IR.
Look, I'm from the south, so I get that racism still exists. It's awful and I've witnessed it first hand. However, *I* was not raised that way, and personally have a huge issue with any type of hate group, ESPECIALLY racism. At the same time, I don't feel the need to prove anything to anyone. Racism is ignorant and stupid, of which I am neither. It makes NO logical sense that one race is better than another, and I am always logical.
Mostly, I believe in basic human respect. Regardless of age, gender, race, what the fuck ever, every person deserves to be treated with kindness and love. Individuals can lose this right, but not groups. This goes for blacks and whites, girls who shoot IR and girls who don't shoot IR. If a performer is blatantly racist, sure, go at if, but if she hasn't explicitly stated that, let's all do ourselves a favor and give her the benefit of the doubt, because the negative energy and hate isn't going to encourage anyone to jump into IR.
Now, just shut up and enjoy my showcase because it's really good. The scene with Rob Piper and Riley Reid is my favorite and they are both very sexy.
xoxo, Carter
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