I actually like that Alexis doesn't/won't do IR. She's become the poster girl for not doing IR and the complainers need their Holy Grail. I kinda feel bad for her that must get constantly brought up to her and no matter what she says it will never be a good enough answer to get some people to leave it alone and move on.
I think it's interesting where everyone's line in sand is when it comes to playing up race in IR scenes/movies. On one hand I can understand people not wanting to what porn like the kind Shane Diesel used to make where the "n" word is tossed about regularly. But going to the complete opposite end of the spectrum where some people want no aknowledgement of race mentioned seems a bit strange coming from fans who specifically want IR. The fact that they want to see black men with white women would indicate there's something about black men that they gravitate to but yet don't want any aknowledgement in the scene of the guy's race when specifically wanting to see IR is all about race. I really don't see why some people seem to be so turned off by any aknowledgement of race when there are clearly people who like to have sex with black men specifically because they're black. If during a scene a girl yells out "Give me that big black cock!" is that so horrible considering the only reason she's there is because of his BBC? Is it bad for a girl in a scene to say how much she loves black skin? Is it bad for her to say she thinks sex with black guys is better? Is it bad for a girl in a scene to say she likes black men but her family disapproves? These aren't exactly negative stereotypes. Those are sometimes real life senarios. Why people who want to specifically want to see IR would not want those aspects in their IR porn seems a bit strange to me. If race was a total non-issue for some IR fans then they wouldn't be specifically seeking out IR content and/or complaining about the girls who refuse to do it.
I think BLACKED is a hit with some fans of IR and girls in the industry because it has a very slick look about it and presents IR sex in a very classy looking production. There's no BBC on poor little white girls exploitation. The girls are made up to look pretty instead of the usual sexed up pornstar look. A more natural look of the girls without much inflated boobjobs or tatoos. The sex looks to be more of a sensual nature instead of the hardcore hammering. Tey also lure fans in with first timers. They just stumbled upon a good combination of things that a lot of the other IR productions lacked or didn't offer. The girls in the industry probably like it because they probabiy pay well and it doesn't look like they demand the usual harder to perform circus act type porn that some other studios shoot. The BLACKED scenes look like they would actually be nice and laid back to shoot. I still haven't bought a BLACKED DVD though.
^^ In a vacuum, those aren't negative stereotypes. Until you realize that the stereotype of the big black cock actually comes from the old idea that the larger your penis was, the smaller your brain was, and black men were thought to have large penises because they weren't very bright. Which is also tied to the stereotype of Asian men having small ones. And there's also the fact that porn is mostly a visual medium, and not necessarily and auditory one. I can like the visual appearance of white female and black male having sex without particularly caring to hear how much she loves having sex with black men. And then there's the double standard that you almost never hear a girl talking about the big white cock she's fucking, unless the other woman is a minority and the racial difference is being played up in the scene. And then there's the fact that most scenes that do acknowledge the race of the participants tend to do it quite often, to the point where you're hearing about the big black cock every 3-5 minutes, and sometimes that just gets tiring. Like, we know it's black, we can see it ourselves, and you just said it 3 minutes ago. ^ And the vast majority of the site features big black cocks on little white girls. It's just that they have the brains to not actually say anything about it, and just let the viewer think for themselves. Nearly everything about the site harkens back to those tropes visually, but not thematically. Edited by - whatsatelephonebill on 7/12/2015 10:32:21 AM
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Posted - Jul 12 2015 : 11:27AM
That may have been true historically, but no such link is made in most interracial roleplaying fetish porn. The female in those scenes (and in plenty of other porn) is much more likely to be depicted as dumb than the male.Most performers are not silent during their scenes, and are quite vocal about how much they love the sex they're having. I'm not sure why they would suddenly go quiet when they're shooting with black men.Because the "whiteness" of the male is not usually relevant to the scene. The blackness of the male, on the other hand, is very relevant in interracial roleplaying fetish porn.I think the "we" you're referring to might not be the intended audience for such a scene. You're describing the discomfort of someone watching a fetish scene who does not share the fetish. Actually, your post reminds of the many comments I've read in years past that criticize scenes on BDSM websites for being BDSM scenes.The females in Blacked scenes regularly refer to "big black cock" and, in character, they often comment on how much bigger this guy's cock is than their boyfriend's or husband's (or ex's). The boyfriend or husband is always white. Edited by - misspornUSA on 7/12/2015 11:34:12 AM
^ I have no issues saying that while I do enjoy interracial porn, I am not into race play, and I generally put up with it because the majority of interracial porn is shot that way. And I fully respect that race play interracial has the right to exist, I just wish there were more companies out there that didn't play to it. And that's from a personal point of view, not a moral one.
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Posted - Jul 12 2015 : 1:54PM
^That's a perfectly understandable and reasonable desire, though I'm still not sure why you view Blacked as one of those companies. The (excellent) new scene with Anna Morna is a case in point. Early in the scene she is speaking to a friend over the phone, and says "Lately I've been thinking about sexy black guys, and, you know, size..." Later during the bj she says to Flash: "Your big black cock is making me tear" and several minutes after she says "I want your big black cock in me." Once Flash is inside her, Anna proclaims that Flash's cock, which later in the scene she refers to as a "monster cock" and a "monster dick", is "the biggest cock I've ever had" and encourages him to "Stretch that little white pussy." Soon after she says "I knew your big black cock was going to make me cream." After a couple minutes in another sex position, Anna remarks "I love the way that big black cock stretches it." EDIT: Blacked's next update is titled "Cheating Blonde Wife Fucks Husbands Black Friend." The scenario is a character cheating on her white fiancé. She says "big black cock" toward the end of the trailer.
Yeah folks, deal with 1 stereotype at a time. Adding in all the other contextually sensitive associations and stigmas is tenuous. There's a never ending cock contest amongst men, always boasting about having the bigger dick, but I don't believe I ever heard as a rebuttal "well that just means you're dumb." Because it doesn't. And anyone clinging to that as a defense mechanism just reveals their own insecurity, and it's obvious. So people don't even bother to use that. I believe the "big dick, therefore small brain" notion was just one of many denigrating stereotypes that were a corollary with selective breeding practices during slavery, but it was hardly a codified belief. Regardless of the stereotyped dick size of slaves, even if you abandon that notion altogether, they still would have most probably regarded slaves as mentally inferior. The intellectually insulting component in this was certainly a result of the system. The big dick thing is more of an ad hominem not contingent on it. I think this does interestingly speak to the sexually repressed side of American culture. It's sort of like the male equivalent with slut shaming. "Oh he's a big dicked, muscle-bound dude? He must be stupid." Since there is no real slut shaming with men, not in the sense that a guy sleeping with a lot of women is insulted and demeaned, the sexually repressed, projected stigma is the dumb jock or the meathead body builder. It is hardly something necessarily linked with penis size or race. Any big buff dude is likelier to be a target of the "(insert trait here), therefore small brain" stereotype sooner than someone else of average stature may be. So I don't really think that big dick, therefore small penis stereotype is even that relevant anymore. Even in a joking sense, it doesn't seem that commonly subscribed to. Not as much as the big body, therefore small brain thing. Though the one thing I do still hear a lot though, which could possibly be a derived form of the aforementioned stereotype, is the joke about "how do you remain conscious with all the blood flowing to that thing?" Dispensing with the big dick, small brain thing, I still wonder if there's any studies been done about the variability in cognitive functions among guys with different dick sizes in their aroused state. Does a small dick guy retain better problem solving capacity when he's fully aroused than a guy who's dick volume is several times larger when he is aroused?
Here's my thing about this. It's like a catch 22. I love hearing women say this type of stuff. The exception being when I can tell it's just off a script, rather than a spontaneous or authentic thought of their own. If the professionals do it well, it can be hard to tell whether it's scripted or if it is ad-libbed. If it comes off as authentic then it's sex dynamite for me. That's why I find myself enjoying homemade sex videos more, or cam couples. Cuz even if she is saying it just because she knows it excites her lover to hear it, she's still saying it because she wants to and it's her idea. Like when a kinky girl wants to put the spurs to me and get me to fuck her harder. Or she just genuinely loves to admire me. I know what it's like, so to get a proper vicarious thrill out of watching porn, I am pretty discerning with how performers deliver lines. This is why I usually prefer the gonzo approach of BangBros, because the girls are usually just themselves. I think Blacked is pretty unique in that they really present a scene with very little intrusion by the director/camera. There's a phrase in film criticism about auteurs who "draw attention to themselves", basically reminding us that this is a movie and nothing is real, just a guy behind the scenes calling shots. With gonzo, this is irrelevant because there is no pretense whatsoever that this is a porn scene and there's other people on set besides the performers. I still think Blacked could do with some more spontaneity though. That's why I recommended they experiment with a scene, doing it like a sex tape where the performers can take turns recording. The whole scene doesn't need to be POV, but they could use parts like that. I'm digressing! lol
Blacked has been my favorite studio since there launch and they've been a real shot in the arm that IR needed since there launch but I think they ate Just as guilty of playing up the race play aspect of there scenes as anyone else. Just look at the titles if the videos, its always something like "white girl cheats with Big Black cock" or "white girl meets first big black cock" and the girls play it up in the scenes too.
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Posted - Jul 12 2015 : 2:45PM
^^I love all of the "big black cock" talk and Blacked is one of the best American porn sites imo. Bangbros is one of the increasingly few websites that I'm a member of and I don't dislike the style, but a bit more intimacy in the scenes would be nice. Edited by - misspornUSA on 7/12/2015 2:45:29 PM
IMO raceplay has never been the issue. It's quality. The genre (on the web scene) for the longest time was overdue and deserving of boost of good quality and Blacked proved it. Don't know why it took so long for someone to figure that out either. Frankly I dont care if they take the raceplay even further if they want. As long as the quality is a priority and it doesn't turn into a minstrel show. There's far more ways to be creative when you do it with skill. The better the quality, the more license you get to push the edges IMO.
^I agree and disagree with you, I honestly don't care that much about race play and the only reason I really pay attention to it is because so many girls are using it as an excuse for not doing IR but at the same time I think there is a limit to how far I think they can go before I'm turned off by the scene no matter how hot it looks. I think Blacked is the best no doubt but you there have always been good quality IR. Jules Jordan has been putting out Great IR for a long time, the biggest difference between Blacked and Jules Jordan is that Blacked focuses on getting new girls to do IR and everyone else focuses on getting girls who have been around to do there first.
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Posted - Jul 12 2015 : 4:12PM
I would pay big to see porn as un-pc as a lot of the old Blackzilla and Shane Diesel's Bangin Babes scenes shot well. Unfortunately producers seem to view the two as mutually exclusive.
I've always viewed Blacked as a company very into race play, and I've said so on this board (though I don't think I've said it in this thread). What I meant when I said they play on it visually and not thematically is that they tend not to make their scenes seem exploitative, even if the scenarios are the same basic ones that have been on many other IR sites that people do consider exploitative (for example, the "using your girlfriend to pay off a debt" scene they did with Cadence Lux). For example, I posted this in the Blacked.com thread:I don't actually believe very many people think that nowadays, or that the porn we have out there is based on that stereotype. What I was responding to was his statement of those stereotypes not being negative things, and not understanding why people might be against using them as stereotypes. Because while that stereotype has evolved throughout the years, there's no denying that that's where it started. Edit: And technically the idea wasn't that they weren't though of as intelligent, it's that they were thought of more as animals than people, and less capable of intelligent thought as a race. Edited by - whatsatelephonebill on 7/12/2015 7:33:35 PM
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Posted - Jul 12 2015 : 7:55PM
^I don't know that any women in the industry who's criticized these scenes and declined to appear in them cited the size-intelligence stereotype as the reason behind their thinking. I'm also not sure I agree with you that the origin of the "the stereotype of the big black cock actually comes from the old idea that the larger your penis was, the smaller your brain was." Now, I know that the racist quack John Rushton linked penis size and intelligence in precisely the way you described in a book he authored in the '90s, but at least since the 16th century and perhaps earlier the size of the black male penis was viewed by racist whites as the cause of what they believed to be an animalistic hypersexuality among black men, not low intelligence.
^^ Again, that part of what I said wasn't meant to be tied to the topic of this thread, just an idea of why some people might not view the stereotype of "big black cock" (in the context of society in general and not porn in particular) as an entirely positive thing. And it's possible that I'm confusing two different things I heard/read at two different times together, but I tried to get at that with my edit (that it was tied more to being savage and/or animalistic than it was purely tied to being not intelligent).
Haha. Nice to hear there's other HushHush fans out there. IMO they should have beat out BlacksOnBlondes, but BoB had the brand name established by stealing other companies content and sticking their label on it. HushHush would have won in a fair head to head, IMO, but it was always an uphill battle for them. Them boys was wild. It really felt more like the talent was running the show with them too. Shane, Boz, and Richard Mann had way too much fun. That's how gonzo needs to be.
And the 'bestiality' undertones, or overtones in some of the scenes that play that up relects it. But hey, ppl are into it or else content with that sort of theme would not be produced. Personally, for the content that has performers I'm interested in being paired with what closer resembles my POV, I prefer purchasing the Eroticax or X-art styled stuff. Here. Here. Here. & Here.
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Posted - Jul 13 2015 : 9:18AM
and let's not forget the name of the site where these scenes are from: BLACKED.com. here are some other titles from respected "race neutral" companies: Blondes Go Black, Brunettes Go Black, Black Owned, The Brother Load, BlackMaled, Teens Love Black Cock, Brown Bunnies, not to mention the "asian", "latin" and other "black" titles. It is something that the girls who say they don't do black men because of the "stereotyping" portrayed in IR porn some of them will end up doing these "stereotyped" scenes because some of the respected directors and/or producers they shoot for in non IR scenes are responsible for these titles and some the IR content in question and will eventually shoot for them in their IR shoots as well. Edited by - sh_rock on 7/13/2015 10:03:11 AM
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Posted - Jul 13 2015 : 12:16PM
Someone in the mood for any type of porn needs to know from the cover that the product might be what they are seeking. If I am looking for a movie in which all the scenes have a Latina, I want the title to include the word Latina or some kind of reference to Latinas to make my search easier. It also helps the studio because they can catch the potential customer’s attention more easily. Of course there are exceptions, but that would only apply if the consumer knows a specific studio, and that studio specializes in a certain genre of porn. Dogfart does not have to include the race aspect in their titles because their brand is focused on IR. Blacked does not have to either, their name is self-explanatory. Companies like Jules Jordan, Hard-X and others that don’t produce IR only need to have it in their titles to differentiate it from their other titles that don’t focus on BM/WF sex. There is nothing wrong with the way IR porn is marketed, I just went on adult DVD Empire and searched for anal movies. Here are the titles of a few. - Anal warriors - Anal interviews - Anikka’s anal slut - New anal recruits - Anal buffet Notice a trend? So what is the issue if a movie that has BM/WF in all the scenes mentions it?
I had no idea that BLACKED had titles that played up race and I had no idea the played up race role-play in their scenes/movies. I'm glad to hear that isn't a deal breaker for those who are easily offended. I personally don't have a problem with titles like the ones above that play up race. In fact I think they're almost necessary. In Gonzo porn most titles are named based on their content and it's a selling point to inform people of what the movie's about. In the defense of some studios there are some who feature IR scenes and make no mention of it in the title. JULES JORDAN regularly has scenes with BM/WF that don't play up race or mentions race in the title. There have been JJ movies that several IR scenes in movies that aren't racically motivated. For a long while LETHAL HARDCORE had at least one IR scene in most of their movies because Sledge Hammer was a contract player or a fav go to fo them. For me personally, having that one IR scene in an otherwise all white movie could be a good thing or bad. Sometime having that one IR scen could be the tipping point that makes me want to buy or rent. Other times I want to see that one IR scene but the rest of the cast does nothing for me and I wish it had been included in an all IR movie. So I can easily see the arguemnts on both sides of people wanting their IR in an all IR feature vs having IR scenes in non IR themed movies....of course that problem goes away with members of websites where they can simply watch any scene without having to buy an entire movie.I honstely think thre are some girls who don't like the more stereotypical themes of some IR movies and I guess I like that they care enough to make a stand about something they see as wrong....but at the same time I thik most people see those movies as roleplaying and acting and it doesn't reflect on the girl in a negative way because she's playing a part. People in porn play everything from cheerleaders to secretaries to victims to perverts. Is playing an innocent white girl in a IR "thug" movie really that bad in comparison?
For me I like it when it's as descriptive as possible when the title says "BIG BLACK DICKS/BIG WHITE TITS", BLACK DICKS IN TIGHT WHITE ASSES", etc...let me know exactly what I'm getting or let's me know what to avoid if I'm not a fan. For example some people may love "BBC DOES BBW" but I will choose to skip that one. I understand all movies won't be titled in such a descriptive way but I like when they are. Content-wise...I wouldn't like it if all IR was like the stuff we see from DOGFART or BLACKED or BLACK MARKET or whoever because even though I like all that stuff I like variety. Sometimes it's fun or interesting to see stereotypical stuff and sometimes it's nice to see IR where race doesn't factor in and everything in between. Every studio has their own flavor and I think that important. I tend to see so many people on these threads complaining about porn getting dull and it all being the same but clearly the reason they feel tht way is because they seem to be watching the same type of porn over and over again.
I am one of those don't like very much such race playing , I am an IR consumer (not IR fan , roughly half my porn has indeed IR scenes in it but the other half hasn't any) I don't care very much who is the guy fucking the girl (unless I don't like the performer for some reason) I don't mind his skin's tone , to mention his BBC doesn't disturb me if said but not too often , because it reminds me it's a race role playing rather than just two people fucking , it also reminds me the guy it's not me if the girl do this one time too much it'll destroy the mood. I do like it when there's acknowledge of the skin of a black girl I like , I like the skin tone of Ana Foxx for example , it's very rare though even in BF/WM IR scenes , I don't care if the girl notes the white guy skin , but then again I don't care who he is, but I'd like to see if HE take notice of her. I feel the same for red hair or blue eyes or even furry pussies they are all features I like I buy porn for the girls not the guys Edited by - LCF on 7/13/2015 4:04:56 PM
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The problem with those type of scenes or movies that not too many of them aren't in demand unlike BM/WF IR. IR fans like myself only watched BM/OF which could be White, Asian, and Latino girls but it's mostly BM/WF. I have watched an WM/BF scenes before, and the problem with those scene are that the black girl's in those scenes doesn't ever enjoy them or doesn't want to be there, same with the white guys too. There are some white guys in porn aren't into black woman but have to do it anyway but they also can refuse to do them just like the white girls can with black men. You never see Porno Dan do a scene with black woman before but have no problem shooting BM/WF scenes which he have used Prince and ever have a IR movies too. I don't know if Porno Dan like black woman or not but you don't see a black girls on his live show or ever the Fuck a Fan show too. Hate to say it but WM/BF scenes or movies aren't as big like BM/WF IR is, to me those scenes aren't as good.
^ Black Lust This goes well beyond anything blacked did and none of the girls seem to want to be elsewhere , quite the contrary, especially Ana It was available only for rental, but I'll buy it for sure when available
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Posted - Jul 13 2015 : 5:11PM
That is what I'm taking about, and it's the reason why WM/BF IR doesn't sell that much because there is no fun in those scenes. So what is the different between a BM/WF IR and a WM/BF IR. To me most IR fans like me are more excited to see this white girls 1st IR scene or one of there favorite performer who does IR then the next Ana Foxx or some black girls scene with a white men. Edited by - Interracial4Life on 7/13/2015 5:12:34 PM
You've mentioned this before that you aren't an IR "fan" but about half you collection is IR and you seem to be extremely knowledgable about all things IR. If you aren't truly an IR fan how is it that your collection is half IR and you know so much about IR porn and are usually part of the various IR disccusions on these boards? I'm not putting you down or saying you're wrong about how you feel but surely there must be something about IR that draws you in because if you weren't a "fan" it seems a bit strange you'd own so much IR because it's a niche that's fairly avoidable if you weren't into it. It seems like something you have to want and go out of your way to get. Basically I'm just curious as to how you see yourself as a "consumer" and not a "fan" and feel the need to point out the difference on occasion. What makes a "fan" vs a "consumer" to you?
Girls who are worth the pay are pure amateur girls. Girls do porn website finds the hottest smoking chicks to shoot there 1 and only porn. I hope interracial can learn to do this 1 day. Instead of paying chicks who have fucked so many guys before, learn to find some hot amateur girls who haven't done porn before. I hear they pay these girls big time the way first IR girls get paid. They have found pageant girls, playboy models, and actresses ect. IR needs to learn to recruit like them. Girls who have shot little to no scenes are the highest value girls, but girls who have shot a bunch of scenes are lower value girls. You spend big bucks on a brand new cars, but once it has been used and abused they are no longer worth the brand new asking price. IR has it backwards.
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Posted - Jul 13 2015 : 7:15PM
^^ (assuming the 3 spam post above get deleted. if not... um... ^^^^^ I guess.) I won't speak for LCF but I'm in a similar situation. Looking at the porn I have on my computer a significant portion of it would fall under the category of IR porn, but I don't consider myself a fan of the genre. I don't specifically seek out the genre, I seek out performers that I like and if they happen to be performing with a partner of a different race, then so be it. I'm not averse to it, I don't prefer it. It's just people fucking for the most part, and if I like either of those two (or more) people (and don't detest the other) then I'll probably like the scene.
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Posted - Jul 13 2015 : 7:32PM
I guess you have a problem with the fan base then. Like LCF he is a fan of the genre, but there are some IR fans who only watch IR, and not any other porn genre. They just want to see a black men with a white woman and nothing else. BTW it seem you post on here, and make fight with the IR fans. I'm a IR fans myself, and just focus on the one who do IR and not the one who don't. How many IR fans would watch there favorite white woman with Lexington Steele over Manuel Ferrara or James Deen who IR fans hate the most because they are white. The problem is that the industry doesn't ever care for the IR fan base because they think all IR fans are racist which they aren't so they don't want to cater to that fan base.
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Posted - Jul 13 2015 : 8:05PM
^I have no particular problem with IR fans, or fans of any genre for that matter. Like whatever you want to like and watch whatever you want to watch. I don't really care what anybody else likes or watches. (within the constraints of "two consenting adults) That said, I don't always agree with every assertion that every IR fan makes, and I do occasionally find the behavior of some IR watchdogs to be in poor taste, and detrimental to the industry as a whole. Harassing performers because they don't shoot the type of porn you like is something I will speak against, regardless of what type of porn it happens to be. In the case of IR watchdogs I don't condone a lot of their behavior but that doesn't mean that I don't like IR porn or have some beef with IR porn fans in general. I find it equally obnoxious that some people harass F/F performers who don't shoot M/F scenes, and vice versa. It's one thing to request that people shoot what we'd like to see, it's another thing entirely to harass them and make unfounded accusations, because they aren't shooting what we'd like. Considering the amount if IR content that is being produced I'm not sure how you can claim that the industry doesn't like IR fans and won't cater to them. What IR porn are you watching if the industry isn't catering to you?
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Posted - Jul 13 2015 : 8:11PM
I was thinking like you when I first read his statement, then I realized that it is entirely possible that his favorite girls perform better with black males, and that could explain why he owns so much IR. But he can probably explain the reasons better.
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Posted - Jul 13 2015 : 8:39PM
It because IR fans don't like the way how they treat the genre, the fan base, and the black men too. The porn industry is racist like it or not but I guess you are white because you seem to don't care about it. People think all IR fans are racist, and calling them IR watchdog which is not. That is how the industry treat IR fans like that.
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Posted - Jul 13 2015 : 9:15PM
^I do also take issue with IR fans (or any fans for that matter) that start race-carding everything they don't like. Sorry but I'm not buying this whole racial crusader shtick that you're trying to sell, when you are actively seeking out porn that segregates performers, and inherently treats performers of different races and genders differently. You can't demand to have segregationalist porn and then complain because your porn is segregationalist. That's called hypocrisy and it's generally frowned upon. As far as the relevance to the original topic, the fetishization of IR porn is what allows performers to command a higher price to do it it for the first time, or even at all. It is a demand driven industry and as long as there are guys out there that can't punch their crotch to anything except a black man fucking a white woman, then the the performers, studios and everyone else who makes money in the industry are going to take advantage of that, just like they will any other fetish. It has nothing to do with racism and everything to do with making money. Your inability to get your rocks of to two white people fucking, two black people fucking, or a Latino fucking an Asian doesn't entitle you to anything special. Your inflexibility puts you at a disadvantage in the porn market compared to someone who doesn't care what race everybody is. Like it or not, that's the reality of the situation. But the same rules apply to everyone. I generally like to watch what I consider really attractive people fuck, so I end up paying more for my porn than some guy who's doesn't care if either person looks like a burn victim with leprosy. And in turn that means that there is going to be more work for attractive people in porn, and more attractive people in porn can demand more money for that based on my preferences.
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Posted - Jul 13 2015 : 9:40PM
WTF you taking about, I don't have time to bash girls who don't do IR which is a waste of time. The best way for IR fans is don't support the one who won't do it, meaning hurting them in the pocket. They also have the right on they support and don't support with there money. Murdock you have started fights with some IR fans on here who don't agree with you but let not have the Mods to come on here to warned us again because they will locked this thread because this is too good of a topic not to get it locked. So let get back on the topic that is the thread is about.
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Posted - Jul 13 2015 : 9:57PM
MOD: People were asked to behave, you have chosen not to. Find other threads to post in and cease posting in this one. Edited by - flash on 7/14/2015 9:05:31 AM
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Posted - Jul 13 2015 : 10:01PM
Interracial4Life, if you want this thread to continue as I do please stop responding to murdock.Please delete that. I'd like this thread to keep going. Edited by - misspornUSA on 7/13/2015 10:01:42 PM Edited by - flash on 7/14/2015 9:06:46 AM
Eh, there are plenty of scenes that I get my rocks off to that fit those descriptions you've mentioned, there: OTTOMH, Asa Akira's foursome scene in "Asa Akira To The Limit (Scene 1), Mandy Muse's "Ass Crazy" scene for Teenfidelity, India Summer's "Sex Ed" scene for MomsBangTeens, Katerina Kay's "Playdate" scene for MomsBangTeens and so on... Granted, I can't speak for others, but personally it's about nothing more than seeing, and hearing, my favorite female performers being paired with what closer resembles my POV. How the scenes that happen to fit this description are handled overall: what they're tagged as, how they're shot, when they're shot , who they're usually shot by, et al. was established well before I hit the legal age to purchase adult DVDs. I have to sort through what's available and I support the content that's done well; it has nothing to do with me wanting anything to be segregated.
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Posted - Jul 14 2015 : 12:59AM
Excellent question. That's what gets me about the ongoing (and increasing) obsession regarding all things IR from a significant portion of the ADT "regulars". The constant commenting/complaining/debating about anything related to IR would make you think there's hardly any of it (IR) out there, even though we'd all agree that it's vastly popular, easy to find, and still growing in popularity. Don't get me wrong, members like misspornUSA make good points regarding the subject, but the discussion of the subject ad nauseam is tiresome, for me personally. It's good that we have this thread devoted to the subject, but I'm kinda tired of other threads, particularly girls' Star Crossed threads, being regularly derailed because of the subject.
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Posted - Jul 14 2015 : 1:19AM
^I've long wished that the mods would have an official thread on the subject so they could keep discussion/debate of the issue off of the Star Crossed threads. Frankly, I'd also like them to create a "Polite Complaints about a Pornstar's Physical Appearance" thread so when a pornstar has work done or is believed to have had work done their threads won't get clogged with comments whining about it. Edited by - misspornUSA on 7/14/2015 1:20:49 AM
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Posted - Jul 14 2015 : 1:21AM
MOD: People were asked to behave, you have chosen not to. Find other threads to post in and cease posting in this one. Edited by - flash on 7/14/2015 9:07:06 AM
Posted - Jul 12 2015 : 4:38AM