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Posted - Jul 14 2015 : 1:22AM
This "categorizing" of porn based on a performer's ethnicity is good for us fans, but it might not be so good for the minority (black, Latin, Asian) performers. This categorization of them based on their ethnicity often limits their work to only movies based on the subject of their race; in the case of black male performers, the vast majority of their work opportunities will involve them fucking white girls (IR). For black girls, as Chanell Heart lamented in that previously posted interview, the only work a black girl like her can get is if some studio wants to shoot a "black movie". Same goes for Latinas and Asians, who are likely to have difficulty finding work for something other than ethnically themed titles, like a "Latinas on Fire" or "Asian Fucking Nation". White girls, on the other hand, don't have this problem, where they're only limited to titles centered around their ethnicity. Again, you won't find a category called "white" when you go to any membership site or online DVD store, but of course, you will always see the following categories-IR, Latin/Latina, Asian and Black/Ebony.
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Posted - Jul 14 2015 : 2:02AM
To be clear, a simple post asking a girl to do an IR scene is perfectly fine. It's when some posters decide to go off the rails and have the IR discussion we're having here on some random girl's thread that it becomes a nuisance. If not that, people regularly get into the same fuckin' pointless arguments, like "Why does the color of the guy's cock even matter?" or "Why is it that the IR category only pertains to black guys fucking white girls? What about Latinas, Asians, etc.?" As for your second point, I disagree, since such discussion is warranted, considering that it is all about the star performer.
Well, I buy porn for the girls , so it often happens that the girl I like does IR , then I buy it, I don't care who he is the male talent , I don't seek out for IR , if a star I like stars in two movies and I have to choose one I wouldn't choose the IR one in itself I'd choose the one who stars more girls that I like if it is the IR one than I'd pick it up. Hence my wording "consumer" instead of fan I have knowledge because I have a good memory , it's not just IR, however I do intervene often in IR debates especially when stars are attacked for their choices since very few do this.Also I noticed that a great number of girls actually do IR, possibly the majority of them and this why I intervene in IR debates , I had a first hand (pun not intended) experience about it I didn't even realize I had this much IR porn until I reorganized my collection , removed the covers and put the discs in piles for better storage , it was then that I noticed roughly half of it was IR . As for my memberships they rotate , but I stopped to renew for some sites for "political" reasons I don't want to support them in any way. As for dogfart I'm continuing my membership to support their will to hire black girls , many talk about how understimated and underbooked black girls are, , I do my part to show some support , not a big deal though I like many of them. I also like passionate sex with man and women who like what they are doing so in some cases I actually choose IR when I know for sure the lady has a taste for black men such as Leya Falcon or Janet Mason for example , thus I also have been member of some amateur or pro-am sites ,some of those are IR , there are also stars who aren't know for peculiar taste but are really great performing IR like Riley Reid , Julia and Lisa Ann , Chastity Lynn, Lily Labeau , Valentina Nappi , Abbey Rain and some more Edited by - LCF on 7/14/2015 9:10:23 AM
Back in topic to you guys think that Blacked my affect the issue? I mean they pay more than the others they just don't pay for the scene but for a temporary exclusive , thus preventing those girls to shoot more IR , many girls quit in less than a year , the number of those at blacked who already quit is high.
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Posted - Jul 14 2015 : 3:45PM
What are you taking about because these things you are saying aren't true, I don't know where you get that information from but are you some type of insider who worked in the industry or something? I know Blacked.com doesn't charge more for a 1st girls IR scene because Carter Cruise said it on here and Dani Daniels on Twitter said she didn't get a bigger pay for her feature. Ever Nikki Benz came on here from her own word, now all three of those girls said it from there own word because they are in the industry and you just a fan who watched porn. Now we know Jules has paid Amy Reid and Jenna Presley million big buck for there 1st IR scene, now I don't know if Romi Rain or Summer Brielle got for there 1st IR scenes for Jules. Now we know that Jessie Jane will do IR soon for Jules, and will ask a big paid for her 1st because we know Jules will paid for it. But the real thing is that when these girls ask for a big paid for there 1st IR they don't ever performed good those scene which will leave up to a bad scene, and they aren't really into black man because you can see it. Edited by - Interracial4Life on 7/14/2015 3:55:09 PM
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Posted - Jul 14 2015 : 3:56PM
^^LCF's talking about the contract that pornstars who shoot for Blacked sign that forbids them from shooting IR for other companies for six months. Edited by - misspornUSA on 7/14/2015 3:56:39 PM
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Posted - Jul 14 2015 : 3:57PM
I don't think we know that.
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Posted - Jul 14 2015 : 4:28PM
I know about that part but the other part he said that most girls end up leaving when they shoot for that sites which is not trueI said most not all IR fans aren't into passionate sex, not all porn isn't into it. Evil Angel, Kink, Dogfart, Jules Jordan and sometime Brazzers are more hardcore sex then passionate sex.
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Posted - Jul 14 2015 : 4:53PM
^Yes, but then Blacked was created and it's been an immense success. This suggests that there is a substantial market for passionate scenes between black men and white women that other studios that shoot interracial porn have generally left untapped. Fans can only watch what exists. Now that Blacked exists and Lansky is shooting bm/wf scenes his way fans are watching those scenes. Had Blacked existed all along, fans would have been watching those scenes all along. They watched what was available not necessarily out of preference, but because it's what existed. To illustrate my point, here's an example: I'm a very big fan of kissing in porn, yet a lot, maybe most of the scenes I watch have very little kissing if they have any kissing at all. I watch those scenes anyway because I like the performers and the sex acts they're engaging in, etc. If I could watch the same performers having the same kind of sex in scenes with a lot of kissing, I'd watch that, but those scenes are few and far between so I usually don't have that option. So it would be unreasonable to conclude that I because I watch the scenes I do I'm not a fan of kissing. Rather, I just watch what's available to me. I believe that the same is true of IR fans and hardcore vs. erotic sex. Edited by - misspornUSA on 7/14/2015 5:12:16 PM
I remember that one series made by Jake Steed, where they would use sound effects like roaring monsters during the scenes. SMH. It's funny to think about now. I don't know what it adds, other than a distraction, but I will say it was memorable. I think these days no one could really get away with that, unless it was a black director or performer's decision. But I think people should be allowed to be as vulgar or obscene, even offensive, as they want, as long as it's consenting with all parties.
That's just SOP for porn titles. Let's be real. Expecting neutrality in porn marketing is absurd. We don't have neutrality in mainstream, family safe marketing. They use sexy and provocative marketing for everything, from shoes, to washing machines, to cars. Most of those porn titles aren't doing anything besides communicating to the potential consumers that the product is IR. What do you expect? Just using the word black doesn't mean it's deviant biased propaganda. I think what we're talking about in being "race neutral" within IR is not exploiting denigrating or negative stereotypes. They can still acknowledge race, but if you actually look at the content of those titles, most of them are fairly benign as to be relatively neutral, e.g. Blondes Go Black. It's an excellent, high quality release by HardX, obviously targeting fans of IR, and the content itself is fairly standard gonzo. For all intents and purposes, it's as neutral as you can expect for an IR flick. Same with Jules Jordan's Black Owned. Now that's the most provocative title you mentioned. You read that title and you think it's going to be like some edgy, in your face black man's revenge thing, but again, the actual content is fairly benign. Yes there are some fetish-y leashes in some scenes, but there's hardly any dialogue that pushes the boundaries of conventional vanilla. So just as surely as you can't judge a book by its cover, you also can't judge a porno by it's title. The titles across the board in porn want to grab your attention, so they try and be provocative and edgy, as well as catchy. Ironically, as has been pointed out, Blacked put out some neutral sounding IR titles, as plain as "Her First Interracial", meanwhile the content is much more overtly pushy with the race factor. So while Black Owned sounds like a more provocative title than "Her First Interracial", in actuality, the content of the former is more indifferent, while the latter is more provocative. It's true, Blacked does really hammer it in. And I have no beef with any of that, as long as they try and keep it creative rather than formulaic. It will be a test to see if they can keep things fresh and innovative within the constraints of a genre, because I think the scripted sequencing can work against them sometimes. That's why I tend to like the gonzo approach more, like how HushHush did it or how BangBros does it.
One of the all time greatest ever scenes was the Jaelyn Foxx scene with Richard Mann. Unbelievable. I still think that's arguably the high watermark of web gonzo. Other memorable ones I liked were with Isis Love and Cherie. You're right though, too many to list. Just imagine if they could have had the production value of Blacked. They would have shut everyone else down.
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Posted - Jul 14 2015 : 8:20PM
^The Jaelyn scene is a big favorite of mine too. The best part is when Jaelyn half falls off what I guess is a circular sofa and, instead of pulling her back up, Richard just keeps on pumping relentlessly until she's completely on the ground.
Precisely I don't think they would give away all chances for shooting with others companies for free, this doesn't mean they charge more for the scene itself but I think the exclusive should be considered
I didn't say that, I said that many new starlets end their career within a year or so, being harassed for doing IR by followers, parents and friends might be a cause , but not necessarily, anyway I wasn't implying Blacked has a direct responsibility for them quitting , I merely stated that today porncareers are very short, just months in some cases , too many actually even major stars such as Alina Li didn't last a year, it's not dorectly related with Blacked. However since they have such short careers if a star waits a couple months then shoots for blacked then couldn't shoot any other IR for six montths , then quit, we may end up with an IR scene only from her , instead of half dozen or more. Do you see any other Addison Belgium's IR scene? there's only one , she apparently quit already Alli Rae announced she was a "former pornstar" and there were only three scenes of her even though she was very comfortable doing IR and even begun a relationship with Jason Brown , she changed her mind and seems to be back, but then again her IR scenes were really too few , and very few they will remain since it is said he signed an exclusive agreement with blacked. As opposed to the at least ten scenes of Abbey Rain in half the time including Mandingo while passing by, Even Piper Perri did more in maybe just 4 months , not including that with Charlie and Jman as for passionate sex or at least just sex with no shit around, well most of IR porn produced by black owned companies was as such that at WCP might not be as good as that of others but was no circus and with almost no race play , Woodburn and even Justin Slayer and I wouldn't call extreme even the stuff of Black Ice or Combat Zone hell not even Exquisite produces hardcore Gonzo IR They're not doing good and Justin retired , you may have a point , but the most successful pro am IR stars and sites also don't show circus , just sex, Brothalovers for example or the home made stuff of Janet Mason or Christina Noir Edited by - LCF on 7/15/2015 9:01:22 AM
Yeah that was great. That's the sort of action you only get in gonzo. That's why I am keen to see if Lansky can evolve or at least adapt his style to allow for that. His shots are all so meticulously set up in advance, they don't follow the action. The action is preconceived so it will fit in the shot. His camera doesn't chase action, as most hand held gonzo directors do. Yeah it looks great for photography, and I always appreciate good lighting and precision and focus, but even the greatest director of all time (Kubrick) knew sometimes you can't beat hand held roaming action. He blended it all. But my favorite part of the Jaelyn scene is how she just loses her mind. If she was faking any part of that, then she needs the Oscar, the Emmy, and the Golden Globe!
This threatop thread topic is quite the enigma wrapped in a conundrum wrapped in whatever the other one was. Incredibly interesting, yet tediously boring. Hate dodger talk. Hate racism gab. Hate the pressure. Hate the politics. Love the babes. Love the blacks. Love the whites. Love the everybodies. Love the tits love the dicks love the Carter Cruises love the Summer Brielles love the Greys am love all and everybody who bangs these babes... Just don't enjoy all the bickering and complaining and whining and crying and insulting and swearing and know-it-allness. Thanksful for all the babes. Hope th hottest girls get great big paydays, hope they bang m e too, hope more superstar wonderful women do blacked.com Karlee Grey, Shae Summers, Ariana Marie, Aria Alexander, Karissa Kane and so o anso forth...I only have been mentioning the bombshells in every active post for the past hour or so on adultdvdtalk.com. oh yes, Emmi Blake, Abella Danger and Rachele Richey for BLACKED, IR or whatev someday too, someone. Big black dicks and beautiful whiite chcicks always seems to be a wonderful workkk of art to me. Sorry about that kkk sh at the end of work by he way.my typeboard touchscreen thing has a mind of my own sometimes, and I think it would be absolutely ironically funny for the KKK fools to have to watch beautiful white women pleasured by fabulous black men. But that's a whole different topic... so on and so on. Here's hoping that these "dodgers" go black ASAP,get paid lots of money, and make porno history for you and me and everybody... Keisha Greyisha Abella Danger Karissa Kane Aria Alexander Shae Summers Audrey Bitoni Ariana Marie Rachele Richey Somebody correct me if wrong about anybody, reall not sure who has an hasn't IRd yet but these stunning fabulouses sur re deserve it....and ideally with a HUGE payday! Don't we all deserve a little more (love and) money?!
ThanQ mpU, and I just discovered this about Abella by Google search. I admit I know not much, and I have not even seen some of these incredible absolutely sexy ladies in action (yyet). I am just a fan everything I have seen from them so far, and I plan on keeping horny tabs on them. Keisha is phenomenal. I just discovered Aria tonight, for the first time. REALLY. And Abella Danger has a sexy unique kind of face, so I am going to continue looking out for her... PS: I meant Karle3 Grey, and not Keisha anyway. Karleee has been blowing my mind for the last couple hours, and i hope she gets it black WITH a HUGE PAYDAY, if she hasn't already...
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Posted - Jul 18 2015 : 1:43AM
^If you want to keep up to date on what kind of scenes this or that pornstar has shot, data18.com is probably your best bet. Though they don't list scenes for every site/company, it's still as comprehensive a resource as you can find. For dvd scenes, IAFD.com is also good. Edited by - misspornUSA on 7/18/2015 1:43:53 AM
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Posted - Jul 18 2015 : 11:23AM
^I haven't read the interview, but I've enjoyed Aria's work with black men thus far. Her Blacks on Blondes scene with Nat Turner is as erotic as any scene on Blacked imo. Edited by - misspornUSA on 7/18/2015 11:24:14 AM
^^ It's really an interesting interview especially when she describes her early experiences with sex and how she shout out for it. Agree with that scene , she has great chemistry with Nat Turnher , that his not their first
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Posted - Jul 19 2015 : 4:53PM
I was taking about that both will limit themselves build an IR fanbase. Adriana still get a lot of hate from that Stern interview last year which she will never build a IR fanbase and no matter how many IR scene she do they will still hate on her. I don't know about Carter Cruise but after those negative, and hateful comment from some IR fans I think she won't do IR after this feature. Doing do dps, gangbangs or drink piss on camera before doing a scene with a black guy, and that blog on IR is going to is what they are talking about. Did Kristina Rose get the same mess a few years ago?
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Posted - Jul 19 2015 : 5:33PM
^I think Carter will shoot the occasional scene with a black man as long as long as she feels that whoever she's shooting for and with will meet her specific requirements after the kind of scene she is and isn't willing to shoot with a black man. Who knows, maybe we'll see her in a future Orgy Masters. Like you I find it highly unlikely that she will ever build an ir fanbase, but in light of the comments she's made I don't think she's interested in doing so anyway. What I just wrote about Carter shooting with black men also applies to Adriana, except that I don't know if she'd like to build an ir fanbase or not. Either way, pornstars who are only willing to shoot with black men under limited circumstances are basically in the same position as Alexis Texas when she would only shoot anal with Mr. Pete. That isn't to say they should change, but it's the reality of their situation vis-à-vis ir fans as I see it. EDIT: I should add that while having an ir fanbase would benefit these two pornstars, I don't think that not having that fanbase harms them. Edited by - misspornUSA on 7/19/2015 5:51:55 PM
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Posted - Jul 19 2015 : 7:58PM
Well those girls have a problem how IR is been shot but not all IR isn't like that, Jules Jordan, Lexington Steele, Hard X, Elegant Angel, and Arch are companies that shoot IR without the racist stuff you see on Dogfart but to them it not good enough. As for both Carter and Adriana like you said they don't care for those type of fans were never support of there career before they did IR. IR fans should just stick to the girls who have no type of problem with IR or black men. IR fans are just better off without both Carter and Adriana because after what they said about the fanbase. Edited by - Interracial4Life on 7/19/2015 8:01:17 PM
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Posted - Jul 19 2015 : 8:19PM
^Adriana shot a scene with Lex for Hard X and a scene with Sean Michaels for Jay Sin Video (distributed by Evil Angel), so, to be fair, she isn't painting all interracial porn with a broad brush and is willing to shoot with black men when the nature of the intended scene is to her liking. As I said, I expect that Carter will follow a similar path, though I could easily be wrong. I don't intend to boycott either of them., which isn't to say that it's wrong (or right) to do so.
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Posted - Jul 21 2015 : 6:27PM
^ more hate from IR fans than racist pricks for doing this showcase lol y'all be cray This is from her twitter after she shot the showcase for Blacked.com not all IR fans aren't so happy about her doing IR after what she wrote in that blog. No matter how many IR scenes she does she will never get the same support from those fans. For me I will buy it and support it no matter what. If they didn't chose Cruise for a showcase who would be another choice who haven't done IR.
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Posted - Jul 21 2015 : 7:02PM
Making race a issue is just a losing proposition ...the market isn't there for it. Good news is new studios are starting up everyday odds are one or two will break through.
I'm not sure what you mean there isn't a market for it. Do you mean by making race an issue and avoiding it? Because IMO there isn't a place for that anymore. I think maybe once upon a time there may have been some small truth to the stigma and the old paradigm was that the elite porn stars ought to stay "pure" i.e. purely vanilla, but that must have been in some very peculiar and restricted circumstances, even decades ago. I think porn has actually always been ahead of the social curve in terms of race relations. They were doing IR porn since the 70s. It just might have been a bit riskier back then, but the fact was it still was viable, even in an era where blacks had only gained more equal civil rights for just a few years. In 2015 though, the only thing there is no place for, what there's no market for, is dodging IR like the plague. It's just nonsense. IMO if there are agents out there telling their clients this, I suspect even these agents know that's bullshit. They are probably just doing backward dealings behind the scenes to procure 1st time IR rights. I bet agents who tell their clients not to do things are working deals with various companies to get those very exclusive rights. The agents benefit the most out of this, but meanwhile I believe the performers are limiting their exposure and opportunities. When a star gets a pay bonus for doing a 1st time whatever, no doubt the agents get a cut of that. And since agents represent many performers, all those cuts on the bonuses add up. That's how these agents eat. But performers only get limited bonuses for 1st time scenes. I still understand why performers play the game and try to lengthen their shelf-life value as long as they can. I understand why they want to stagger their exclusives, to an extent. But over-extending that hold out period eventually means leaving money on the table. Maybe it's not that big a deal to some, just 5%, maybe 10%, but who knows if it would be 20%? I don't know anyone willing to leave 20% off. Anyone know someone willing to take a 20% pay cut just because of preference in co-worker's skin color? I don't. But if you want to talk about how IR fares in the market, take a look at this: Top Rentals on Xrent for 7-19-15 http://i.imgur.com/rHmKffr.jpg 7 out of the top 10 are IR movies, and 8 of the top 10 feature IR. And here: Top Rentals for 5-11-15 Again 7 out of 10 of the top 10 are IR. And then there's searches on our very own ADT site. Top searched on 7-3-15 Top searches on 5-19-15 13 out of the 20 top searches were IR. Anyone saying there's no market for it would apparently be quite ignorant.
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Posted - Jul 21 2015 : 8:12PM
At the same time, the second scene from her showcase is highly rated on Blacked, and I assume her first is as well. I am of the belief that the fans of interracial porn who harass pornstars on the issue are not generally buying customers, though it is not my impression that Carter and other pornstars who have drawn similar ire from fans agree with that distinction.
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Posted - Jul 21 2015 : 9:27PM
^^Basically when I say there is no market for race I mean making IR a novelty, pitting races against each other or omitting Blacks is just not viable. The market does not support it and the sale and rental list backs that up...There is a market for Blacks in porn. At the moment IR can still be marketed as a novelty and bigger payday but those days are numbered. New studios who don't have a race agenda are coming into the game everyday eventually they will catch on and replace the old guard.
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Posted - Jul 21 2015 : 10:08PM
WTF are you taking about, you must living off the past or something, there is an market for IR then black porn. If you go to X-Rent or other adult online store IR is still selling them black porn. As a matter a fact IR outsell black porn, right now IR, and Anal are the to top selling genre right now, and black porn is at the bottom. You don't see a lot of black porn in the Top 20 DVD Sale over at X-Rent, Most of my porn is IR, sometime anal movies as well. There still black porn out there but not much is been made Edited by - Interracial4Life on 7/21/2015 10:39:19 PM
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Posted - Jul 21 2015 : 11:03PM
^^Did you comprehend what I am saying...to put it bluntly there is no IR without Black.
Fred I hear you. Not sure if our predictions align identically, but I see what you are saying. But what do you think those sales numbers show if not that IR is super viable? Maybe it won't last, but IMO for all we know it could become even MORE popular than it is now, given that the demographics of America are only going to become more diverse in coming decades. Edited by - Melvyn on 7/22/2015 1:50:09 AM Edited by - Melvyn on 7/22/2015 1:50:46 AM
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Posted - Jul 27 2015 : 8:50PM
I just saw this tweet, and what do you think. I bet you she will ask for a bigger paid check, maybe she will demand an IR showcase for Blacked.com but it seem she will do it for the money
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Posted - Jul 27 2015 : 10:05PM
^Could be interesting I guess, but in all honesty I can hardly remember who she is (lol) so I can't say that I'm anticipating whatever she has planned.
Slightly ironically, I just posted about this in her thread. She's always been waiting for the "right time career wise", and made posts to that effect over 2 years ago: Mia Malkova Official ThreadAnd as a performer that's been contracted by two major companies in the past couple years (Mindgeek and Mason/OpenLife), she can ask for a big paycheck without necessarily doing anything new in her scenes, so asking for one for any "new" thing makes sense for her. Edited by - whatsatelephonebill on 7/28/2015 2:15:37 AM
They discuss this topic on Lex's latest show http://www.latalkradio.com/video/players/Lexington.shtml?date=July+27,+2015&file=072715_0 Around the 20 minute mark. Edited by - Melvyn on 7/28/2015 5:35:31 AM
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Posted - Jul 28 2015 : 1:39PM
^It's also on LA Talk Radio's YouTube Channel, under the title "LA Talk Radio: Lexington Steele Live 7-27-15" beginning at around 16:30. Very interesting. EDIT: IR is brought up again 43 minutes in. Edited by - misspornUSA on 7/28/2015 1:57:59 PM Edited by - misspornUSA on 7/31/2015 8:29:49 PM
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Posted - Jul 28 2015 : 2:00PM
The whole thing about paying more for IR and treating Blacks as a special act is about to come to a screeching halt. It is just a matter of time before Black males realize that IR is a major genre and as they go so does the industry. The question then becomes if we are treated as 2nd class, why do we need the studios when we can take over 1/2 of the industry. Said it before making IR a novelty might pay more now but in the long run it is a losing hand.
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Posted - Jul 28 2015 : 2:23PM
It all about business, you got to your at IR from the business side of it. IR is one of the top selling genre right now, and some companies who shoot IR know it take a looks at the top and the bottom selling genre right now in porn. Top Selling porn genre 1. Interracial (BM/WF) 2. Anal Porn 3. White Porn Lowest Selling porn genre 1.G/G Porn 2.Feet or Footjob Porn 3.Black Porn or WM/BF IR If IR wasn't selling then companies won't shoot it, got to look at the dollars and cent here. The companies will shoot more of the top 3 then less on the lowest. At the end of the day it's just business
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Posted - Jul 28 2015 : 2:44PM
^^Don't know where you got your numbers but lets say you are correct. My point is if IR is the top genre and the industry has a racist policy against Black women and according to your list it is wm/bf at the bottom not bm/bf then why would Black males keep 'shucking and jiving' in a industry that doesn't respect them or their women. They could just take over the whole thing or at least end IR...bottom line it would be in white porn companies best interest to get Black women some work..asap. lets see Jade Aspen, Jezabel Vessir, and others soon.
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Posted - Jul 28 2015 : 3:02PM
It's unfortunate that Lex and his guests didn't discuss why exactly they don't view the segregation of black men in the industry as racist. Allison explicitly said that earlier in her career she saw the system as racist, but she never elaborated on when and why she stopped viewing it that way. Actually, neither Allison or Veronica seemed to view the system positively, though Allison admitted that she's benefited from it. EDIT: Allison mentioned in the interview that she thinks it's racist when pornstars charge more to shoot with black men outside of "firsts", but we are left hanging as to why it's okay to charge more once but not twice or more.
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