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| fredgee Deactivated User 350 Posts 12/13 |  Posted - Mar 26 2016 : 3:22PM[Link] |
| misspornUSA Senior Member I ♥ the male gaze (and Palestine). 8737 Posts 11/13 | Posted - Mar 26 2016 : 3:29PM [Link] |
| fredgee Deactivated User 350 Posts 12/13 | Posted - Mar 26 2016 : 3:35PM [Link] |
| misspornUSA Senior Member I ♥ the male gaze (and Palestine). 8737 Posts 11/13 | Posted - Mar 26 2016 : 3:42PM [Link] |
| MrHamburger Member 195 Posts 10/15 | Posted - Mar 26 2016 : 4:17PM [Link] |
| DiamondJackman Deactivated User Straight From My Brown Balls, Using Good Pussy 501 Posts 10/15 | Posted - Mar 26 2016 : 4:23PM [Link] |
| misspornUSA Senior Member I ♥ the male gaze (and Palestine). 8737 Posts 11/13 | Posted - Mar 26 2016 : 4:47PM Edited by - misspornUSA on 3/26/2016 6:17:17 PM [Link] |
LCF  All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05 | Posted - Mar 26 2016 : 5:54PM We only want to see black women in porn. Anything he says has this underground tune in it you can just read all of this posts some of then are cryptic unless you know what he's talking about So if a white woman wants to see IR with black men but is totally indifferent to the women's race because the males are those she fantasizes about , in his eyes is actually interest for blacks overall, so you don't know yet , but you in fact are only interested in black on black porn but those bad guys ruling the industry don't let you know and fooled you and this is why the Industry is dying unless it throw away all those whites and finally gives to the customers what they really want, black on black porn. Whites are a minority in the world , they shouldn't be allowed to dictate what's good for porn , the rest of the world doesn't want to see any white fucking. Edited by - LCF on 3/26/2016 5:58:05 PM [Link] |
| fredgee Deactivated User 350 Posts 12/13 | Posted - Mar 26 2016 : 6:32PM [Link] |
| LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05 | Posted - Mar 26 2016 : 6:46PM and your reply also confirms what I said , for the record I don't want to see blacks, I seek for girls I find attractive or nasty in a good way , so if a black woman fits then yes I want to see her , who the male is not so much , I don't care. You have also no idea how much Japanese porn I own or have seen , go figure censored Japanese on Japanese porn. anyway your posts are for everyone to read , there's no point in denying [Link] |
| fredgee Deactivated User 350 Posts 12/13 | Posted - Mar 26 2016 : 7:00PM Edited by - fredgee on 3/26/2016 7:01:45 PM [Link] |
| Flash Golden Age Classic 11018 Posts 5/01 | Posted - Mar 26 2016 : 7:46PM [Link] |
| Melvyn Senior Member 2797 Posts 12/12 | Posted - Mar 26 2016 : 10:39PM nickle and diming to do black men I also saw she recently tweeted about lasering her tattoos. I would wager that's due to industry pressure. She is soooo hot, but for whatever reason, to some people the tattoos are "deal breakers" which is absurd to me. Like, I get that Lansky likes to shoot girls with the "innocent" look, but how hard would it be to just write a scenario about a more rebellious chick? Like they can't be hot? [Link] |
| Melvyn Senior Member 2797 Posts 12/12 | Posted - Mar 26 2016 : 10:55PM But seriously, he and I even discussed this specific topic with regards to Alexis Texas. Shane is a cool and engaging personality, and he's often retweeted my comments and suggestions. He clearly enjoys interacting with fans via social media. And even he said he was hesitant to retweet just the suggestion of doing a scene with Alexis Texas. I figured that was the reason he didn't retweet the fan-art I adapted from my partner's (the Pit) artwork. He said he loved the artwork but unfortunately was reluctant to retweet it with the @AlexisTexas tag on account of some of her fans being hostile toward IR. I know bringing her name up is long past  by now. Still, it continues to be the litmus test for just how profitable "dodging" can be. A controversial business practice, with questionable results - something we truly cannot determine whether it is even effective anymore. And if it is, for how long can that work? I think there's arguments to be made on both sides, some which make good business sense, and some which definitively prove that by now, most stars have much more to gain by doing IR than avoiding it. [Link] |
| Melvyn Senior Member 2797 Posts 12/12 | Posted - Mar 26 2016 : 10:59PM [Link] |
| Melvyn Senior Member 2797 Posts 12/12 | Posted - Mar 26 2016 : 11:04PM [Link] |
| Melvyn Senior Member 2797 Posts 12/12 | Posted - Mar 26 2016 : 11:25PM This is the problem with critics. They make the solutions seem so easy and obvious. But if it was that easy, if there was so much demand, then this requires some sort of grand conspiracy of collusion throughout the industry to be less interested in these subjects. It doesn't make sense. Rule34 tells us that if it exists, there is porn of it. We can all rest assured that every type of porn out there that's possible to produce, has been, and there's no shortage of people trying to make more off any given type. Porn with black females is not a new idea. Black on black is not a new idea. You can say that there is pent up demand, maybe you're right. Maybe the demand is there, but are people going to pay for it? There is some indication that yes, people will still support black on black porn. LT, aka El Tea on this forum, just produced a hit with "The Big Black Ass Movie." Jules Jordan put out another Black Heat which appears to have sold pretty well. If they sell well enough, more people will follow suit. [Link] |
| Melvyn Senior Member 2797 Posts 12/12 | Posted - Mar 26 2016 : 11:28PM Edited by - Melvyn on 3/26/2016 11:29:39 PM [Link] |
| Melvyn Senior Member 2797 Posts 12/12 | Posted - Mar 26 2016 : 11:35PM I've had success getting retweets from plenty of white performers, e.g. Nikki Benz, Summer Brielle, etc, but not as many black females, although Sienna Dream did RT this one [Link] |
| Draxxx Senior Member 3831 Posts 2/07 | Posted - Mar 27 2016 : 8:47AM I don't blame him for not retweeting the Alexis comment. Why do something that will only stir up trouble and not accomplish anything else. Perhaps he wants a drama free twitter. Alexis clearly doesn't want to do IR and since it's her choice and not a crime of any sort people should let her be. She's in a no win situation anyway. If she does decide to actually do IR the haters would say she only did it for the money or she waited until she was past her prime. Some people would criticize whoever she choose to do the scene with. The second the scene was done some people would start demanding IR anal and an IR gangbang. Whatever she does will never be good enough for some people and they'll find fault. With some girls doing IR doesn't please some IR fans it only gives them something else to bitch about. Riley Reid is an example of you can't please some people. In her thread on this site people were complaining non-stop because she didn't do anal. She still came on and post and interacted with the fans here despite the complaining. Then one day she happily come on to tell fans about her showcase that would be all anal and immediately some people shit on it. Complaining it's not with the right studio, the right guy, not rough enough, not enough, etc...before they saw anything. She was so happy and proud of what she did and couldn't wait to share and she got shit on. That's exactly why girls make up strange excuses as to why they won't do IR or anal or whatever. They're trying to come up with some sort of answer that they think will please the most people and keep them from bitching but as most find out there is no answer good enough for some people and they won't let it go. If they tell the truth they get shit on, if they dodge the question they get shit on, if they try and make up an excuse they get shit on. And it's just people being asses because they can be. With all the porn and all the girls and all the IR or whatever out there why spend time being negative to a particular girl? Can't enjoy porn anymore because this particular girl doesn't do what you want? [Link] |
| fredgee Deactivated User 350 Posts 12/13 | Posted - Mar 27 2016 : 11:53AM Who do you suppose is "preventing" more black on black porn or porn with black females? Do you honestly think Greg Lansky or other enterprising leaders in this industry would refuse to make a site dedicated to black on black porn or one that features black females primarily? This is the problem with critics. They make the solutions seem so easy and obvious. But if it was that easy, if there was so much demand, then this requires some sort of grand conspiracy of collusion throughout the industry to be less interested in these subjects. It doesn't make sense. Rule34 tells us that if it exists, there is porn of it. We can all rest assured that every type of porn out there that's possible to produce, has been, and there's no shortage of people trying to make more off any given type. Porn with black females is not a new idea. Black on black is not a new idea. You can say that there is pent up demand, maybe you're right. Maybe the demand is there, but are people going to pay for it? There is some indication that yes, people will still support black on black porn. LT, aka El Tea on this forum, just produced a hit with "The Big Black Ass Movie." Jules Jordan put out another Black Heat which appears to have sold pretty well. If they sell well enough, more people will follow suit. ============================================================================================================ I know my comments sounds like I think Black on Black is the solution to what ails porn. I also said the industry needs restructuring, I said it needs to retain actresses, I said it needs more input from consumers. The point is some major changes should be made for the good of the industry. Black on Black does not appeal to everyone Whites prefer seeing Whites, Asians prefer Asians, Latinos want to see themselves. I can't give a detailed solution for a billion dollar problem away for free. My point is since the industry has become monopolized and one dimensional it has gone downhill fast. [Link] |
| BlackSix All-Star Member pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07 | Posted - Mar 27 2016 : 8:00PM Black-on-black is one area that seems to have been hurt. Whether that is because there aren't enough people interested in it is hard to determine, we were told for a long time there was no market for g/g, TS and even IR and we've seen that proven wrong. BonB may be struggling for other infrastructrual reasons beyond audience, most of the black producers were working for larger companies like Elegant and Evil Angel. The loss of that infrastructure and distribution channels and business know-how could be as much a contributing factor. [Link] |
| Melvyn Senior Member 2797 Posts 12/12 | Posted - Mar 28 2016 : 12:49AM But even if we assume it is monopolized, don't you think that the shifting paradigm has been more favorable toward general race relations given the IR boom of the last couple years? It may not be specifically yielding dividends for black on black, but I cannot see how promoting IR more positively can be anything but good. Despite what media focuses on and blows out of proportion, I don't think anyone could logically argue that race relations or civil respect has suffered at all over the past decade, even when IR/ethnic was marketed in really raunchy and non-PC terms. Because when you look at the continual rise of interracial relationships, what better sign could there be that the culture and society at large is much more inclusive and accepting of diversity? This isn't some half-assed attempt to find a silver lining either. I think this is a genuinely substantial boon to society. Remember how in the 90s they argued that violent video games would cause kids to be violent? In actuality, increasingly violent videogames and movies and TV shows have only correlated with substantial decreases in real-world violence. That's why I see media as a useful catharsis. Yes we can caution about the dangers of reckless media, but look at the results. Nationwide murders are down, and as porn has become more pervasive and easily accessible, rapes have declined too. I do believe there must always be some degree of responsibility in media/art. I would never say it's an absolute non-factor, yet realistically it would take almost an unfathomable irresponsibility to yield negative ramifications in the real world. It would have to require a sort of totalitarian propaganda, which naturally most of society would find objectionable. But even the most popular propagandized avenues, outlets, or channels of media (take your pick of any ultra-conservative media) has had no success in stymieing cultural inclusiveness. I see tolerant, cooperative, and friendly networking virtually everywhere I go, far outweighing the conflict. Look at how vigilant the societal consensus is toward Trump. He's so reviled and frequently characterized as racist and intolerant, and yet objectively he's laughably quaint. If people sincerely believe he is comparable to fascist dictators like Mussolini, Pol Pot, or *groan* Hitler himself, then truly we must be living in an egalitarian utopia. [Link] |
| Melvyn Senior Member 2797 Posts 12/12 | Posted - Mar 28 2016 : 1:37AM Besides, have you seen his twitter? There's so much humiliation and degradation of white guys it's hilarious. If someone gives a fuck about the dangers of provoking via social media, then they don't make a habit of reinforcing the cuck and raceplay themes at supposedly hostile whiteboys expense. I mean it's supposedly redneck white dudes the ones to worry about right? He doesn't seem to worried. lol I'm not disagreeing that he must be playing it safe with Alexis Texas though. And far be it from me to call on ppl to harass and agitate over matters as trifling as porn. That aint my style at all. But what is the harm in fans simply expressing their wishful suggestions? Isn't that what social media is for? There should be absolutely no harm in fans expressing their appreciation and wishful ideas to their favorite performers. Twitter is saturated with that type of thing. What I don't like is the argument that people should suppress even the simple verbal expression of desires for fear of an hostile intolerant hater or two. That's letting the terrorists win. I hear what you're saying. I wouldn't doubt that there's a handful of shitkicking worthless wastes of bandwidth and oxygen out there trolling the net, spamming hate speech and bullying fans and proponents of IR. I came across some racist neanderthal just yesterday on twitter, who popped up out of nowhere and I gave him a piece of my mind. Big whoop. That was like one guy so far this year. Out of hundreds, maybe thousands of tweets. Surrendering the sphere of social media to them is not helping anyone. I guarantee that those in favor of seeing Alexis finally do IR far outweighs those opposed, by a factor of at least 4. So for every "fan" she loses (and who can really call themselves a fan of any female performers if they disown her for doing a single scene that doesn't cater to their very limited scope of acceptability?) she would still gain 4 more. Real fans aren't going to suddenly stop following her if she does IR. To be sure, I don't encourage any IR fans to go out and pick fights either. The point is, no one should be considering suggesting their wish, which should harm no one, to a star and feel like it's a challenge to a fight. We have no reason to believe Alexis is hostile toward the idea of doing IR. She's even teased at doing an IR pay-per-view scene on one of her vine videos. Remember, this is never about fighting or aggressively challenging anyone. A friendly challenge can work, but it doesn't even need to be that. Just don't be afraid to tell them what you like and think would be a good idea. "Complaining it's not with the right studio, the right guy, not rough enough, not enough, etc...before they saw anything. She was so happy and proud of what she did and couldn't wait to share and she got shit on." You're talking about the worst, most entitled and self-centered spoiled brats on the entire internet. Yeah they're out there. So what? So that means we should avoid suggesting... anything? Because as you just explained, no matter who does it, no matter what they do, there's always going to be some whining bitch using it as an excuse to vent at someone. People will complain about ANYTHING. Have you heard of RottenTomatoes? lol That shouldn't stop decent and respectful fans from expressing fanfare and suggestions. I know plenty of stars out there love hearing suggestions from fans. Check out Mercedes Carrera. I'm sure that's fairly typical of the vast majority of people who perform in showbiz and take to social media. They love it for a reason, and that's attention. Even if you have wild and ridiculous suggestions, what's the worst case scenario? They'll say "oh gawd you're weird!" Actually, I believe there is a scenario which is even worse than that. That's being ignored entirely because you never bothered at all. To be clear, being ignored isn't the worst part. It's unrealistic to expect you'll never be ignored. It happens all the time. Big whoop. But the worst part is just assuming it's not even worth trying. That's like ignoring yourself. Edited by - Melvyn on 3/28/2016 1:38:33 AM [Link] |
| Melvyn Senior Member 2797 Posts 12/12 | Posted - Mar 28 2016 : 1:58AM 2nd. The thing with black on black porn is it's safe to surmise the biggest demographic of consumers for that is, duh, black consumers. I noticed that the huge decline in porn none-too-coincidentally coincided with the recession of 2008, set on by the housing market crash. So many reports made it clear that black Americans were hurt the most by the recession, suffering the worst unemployment, losing homes, etc. It was a disaster for almost everyone, but especially devastating for black Americans. So the first thing to vanish is going to be luxury expenses, which porn definitely is, as certainly live without it. We still haven't fully recovered from that, and the porn industry has never been the same. It also coincided with the tube-site consolidation and boom. That's all factual and empirical, with countless articles and research that would attest to it. But to get anecdotal, I know many black fellow porn fans and many just don't see a cause to pay for porn, given all the tube sites and torrents. For those without a lot of disposable income, porn is a hard sell, which is understandable of course given the priorities of essential bills when the struggle is real. And the struggle is still real. Frankly, I for one can't afford to subscribe to as many of the outstanding sites as I'd like to. So I gotta be extra sparing and selective. But hopefully for everyone the economy continues to improve. This has been a pretty good year so far hasn't it? I'm still holding hope for a return to some black on asian / latina titles as well. Those may be even rarer nowadays than black on black porn. It's slim pickins on the ethnic front.  [Link] |
| LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05 | Posted - Mar 28 2016 : 3:57AM Last but not least Shane played and plays very often in cuckold scenes with humiliating lines from either him or the cuckoldress, so maybe his followers on twitter are those who are into such things either blacks and whites both. But to harass a fellow star is another whole things , she has fans they'd go in there as an army it's not just a couple of white boys who get off being humiliated , they'd be angry , things could go ugly especially with a controversial star like Alexis. [Link] |
| DiamondJackman Deactivated User Straight From My Brown Balls, Using Good Pussy 501 Posts 10/15 | Posted - Mar 28 2016 : 4:33AM [Link] |
| whatsatelephonebill Senior Member 2935 Posts 10/11 | Posted - Mar 28 2016 : 5:15AM Edited by - whatsatelephonebill on 3/28/2016 5:16:43 AM [Link] |
| Flash Golden Age Classic 11018 Posts 5/01 | Posted - Mar 28 2016 : 9:45AM [Link] |
| Melvyn Senior Member 2797 Posts 12/12 | Posted - Mar 29 2016 : 1:18AM Just as a thought exercise, what would you estimate to be the % of Texas's fans/followers who are racist to the point of hostility, not necessarily to the point of physical action, but to the point of verbal harassment via social media? I have no intentions on picking fights, and I would caution like-minded and tolerant constituents, and fellow IR fans not to antagonize. It's just I am genuinely interested in gauging just how polarizing such a mere, innocuous suggestive tweet could be? I cannot imagine more than 5% of her fans being so intolerant/hostile toward a mere suggestion. Truly I think it would stretch the imagination to estimate higher than that. And it's probably a very safe bet that the vast majority of fans are indifferent, because as anyone who regards his or herself as an honest fan of someone would concede, they are fans because of her first and foremost, not because of the color of the phallus entering her. 5% is probably being generous, but let's assume that's accurate. Even if she lost that entire 5%, she'd easily gain 10%. I believe the numbers definitely favor supporting the suggestion. It would be fascinating if she put up a poll. I speculate that if it was a "for" or "against" poll, it might be more polarizing, because it always seems like the hostile crowd is more mobilized and concerted. But if the options included "for" "against" as well as "indifferent" or "whatever", then the "against" field would be much more diminished, because I think a lot more people would be comfortable picking an option that reflects not special enthusiasm for or aversion to, but mere tolerance for the suggestion. So I think there can be a very democratic and fair way to approach the question, depending on how the issue is framed. I think more options is typically the best and most interesting way to survey people. But I think it would be sad to deem that a simple retweet of such a highly popular fan suggestion could be considered harassing. IMO anyone using harassment pretty much nullifies their opinion. Another point I'd like to make is, should the historic moment come to pass and she did decide to announce her first IR scene, I would go on record saying the majority of her fans would be supportive. And to reiterate, the very few who would be hostile toward it would be outnumbered by those enthusiastically supportive of it, which would include many new fans, not the least of which fellow IR and black fans. [Link] |
| LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05 | Posted - Mar 29 2016 : 4:26PM However rumor is she retains from IR because of them , so I think they're enough to attack an account especially one managed by a black man spreading things about their stars. [Link] |
| misspornUSA Senior Member I ♥ the male gaze (and Palestine). 8737 Posts 11/13 | Posted - Mar 30 2016 : 11:25AM [Link] |
| LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05 | Posted - Mar 30 2016 : 2:12PM Especially considering that Mr Pete himself has lots of black friends and shot lots and lots of IR WM/BF [Link] |
| Melvyn Senior Member 2797 Posts 12/12 | Posted - Mar 30 2016 : 11:08PM Extra interesting is when I chatted with Shane Diesel, I mentioned how it seemed like a double-standard with Alexis abstaining for IR, while her bf (husband?) Mr Pete was banging black chicks in movies like Orgy Masters. You know what Shane said? Shane said he knows Mr Pete and he's a cool guy, and yeah, he loves him some black chicks. I'll take Shane's word for it. It affirms my instincts to not hate on any of these people. I'm sure they're all pretty cool people. [Link] |
| BlackSix All-Star Member pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07 | Posted - Mar 31 2016 : 6:46AM [Link] |
| LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05 | Posted - Mar 31 2016 : 1:32PM True but he performed with black girls even when married , before that and after that , I was amazed when many at DF refused him as a performer in We Fuck Black Girls he was one of those genuinely attracted by black girls , he and Mike Stefano [Link] |
| Zy28 Deactivated User 251 Posts 2/12 | Posted - Mar 31 2016 : 8:12PM Because Alexis was with Mr Pete for many years and she always posted pics of her and him together. But afterward she never posted on any social media that she was dating anyone. Now perhaps she likes to keep her life private, but given the amount of criticism she's faced one would think that'd be the first thing she'd post in response. And as others said if she does do such a scene, or scenes in the future, it'll be many years after her popularity in the industry has already peaked. So it'd be an attempt to boost her career (which won't work anyway). Not because she's genuinely interested in doing such scenes. Edited by - Zy28 on 3/31/2016 8:13:07 PM [Link] |
| misspornUSA Senior Member I ♥ the male gaze (and Palestine). 8737 Posts 11/13 | Posted - Mar 31 2016 : 8:37PM [Link] |
| DiamondJackman Deactivated User Straight From My Brown Balls, Using Good Pussy 501 Posts 10/15 | Posted - Apr 1 2016 : 2:58AM [Link] |
| misspornUSA Senior Member I ♥ the male gaze (and Palestine). 8737 Posts 11/13 | Posted - Apr 1 2016 : 9:52AM .[Link] |
| Melvyn Senior Member 2797 Posts 12/12 | Posted - Apr 1 2016 : 12:06PM And I think it's presumptuous if not contemptuous to assume that Nikki would make up some story. If Alexis having a black boyfriend is a lie, then it's one that Nikki believes because Alexis told her. If you're such good friends with someone that you're willing to lie for them, then you're also a good enough friend to believe them. I see no reason for Nikki to lie about it. It's not her reputation on trial in this kangaroo court of public opinion. As much as I think it's bullshit to avoid IR, I also think it's bullshit to expect a level of transparency that exposes performers' private lives. They are not holding public office. They don't owe us anything. Whatever private information we know about them is privileged, not protected as a right. [Link] |
| LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05 | Posted - Apr 1 2016 : 2:05PM There are some , including girls married with black guys, Leya Falcon was one her ex black husband didn't allow her to perform with black guys , she begun when divorced. [Link] |
| Zy28 Deactivated User 251 Posts 2/12 | Posted - Apr 1 2016 : 3:23PM [Link] |
| high_flyin5 Member 729 Posts 6/10 | Posted - Apr 8 2016 : 1:14AM Edited by - high_flyin5 on 4/8/2016 2:33:06 AM [Link] |
| fanofman Senior Member 2053 Posts 9/15 | Posted - Apr 8 2016 : 5:24AM https://twitter.com/mikequasar/status/717958218501074945 https://twitter.com/mikequasar/status/717949905398996992 [Link] |
| DiamondJackman Deactivated User Straight From My Brown Balls, Using Good Pussy 501 Posts 10/15 | Posted - Apr 8 2016 : 2:43PM Edited by - Diamondjackman on 4/8/2016 2:45:29 PM Edited by - Diamondjackman on 4/8/2016 8:02:12 PM [Link] |
| misspornUSA Senior Member I ♥ the male gaze (and Palestine). 8737 Posts 11/13 | Posted - Apr 8 2016 : 5:13PM [Link] |
| high_flyin5 Member 729 Posts 6/10 | Posted - Apr 8 2016 : 7:47PM [Link] |
| DiamondJackman Deactivated User Straight From My Brown Balls, Using Good Pussy 501 Posts 10/15 | Posted - Apr 8 2016 : 8:00PM ^I have no idea who that pornstar is and whether JJ directed at her or not, but the post was funny as hell. [Link] |
| zambi Senior Member 1451 Posts 3/10 | Posted - Apr 8 2016 : 8:27PM Give the people what they want Edited by - zambi on 4/8/2016 8:29:50 PM [Link] |
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